Unless you got a leftover 18 for under 9 grand, you dodged a bullet on the havoc.  Water pump problems brand new (hundreds got replaced before even leaving TRF) and often, POS team primary clutch, wiring issues, and the no name transaxle with a goofy 2 chamber oiling design front output shaft of the trans is too soft, the seal wears a groove in a thousand miles or less.  Parts are mostly discontinued, the front output shaft can only be bough as an assy (if at all) Its too bad, as when brand new they were a hell of a machine, but little to no testing, and even less support.  (funny story, the only cold weather testing they did was in a reefer trailer in Augusta, the AC guys had to test and develop a new map for it and the stampeede, as they wouldn't start for shit when it got below 40)

the worst part of this - I was AC offroads biggest supporter and major racer in 12-15 , 16 came and I had to change positions due to time that i could dedicate to the program, was there for the xx release, then in 18 for the xx race team , was there through 2020, in 2021 I needed to do something else, and now in 24 the program has became a joke because textron didnt support it. in 2024 I bought my first polaris product because AC offered nothing that fit my needs, I was hopeful with the havoc x that there was something there but they went bean counter on that and ended it. so sad to see the hard work go to waste..

Porsche, Ferrari, Lotus, Astin Martin .... you shouldn't use Rivian in the same sentence.

Sounds to me like you just aren't sweet on twink kind.  Bigot.