4 minutes ago, jonlafon1 said:

More your style?  

 

 

I don't think so... 

1 hour ago, jonlafon1 said:

in name only.. No way the 2012 was or is even close to the 2022..  The other brands do the same shit(updates) they just change the name and market the shit out of the "new" chassis.. The procross had MANY changes > they just weren't marketed or talked about nearly enough like other brands do or have.. 

The problem is all those updates were done to a chassis that even in 2012 felt old.  Don't get me wrong.  Great sled for a kid or a wife, but I'd much rather ride something else myself.

2 hours ago, jonlafon1 said:

in name only.. No way the 2012 was or is even close to the 2022..   

Stop it with that, no positive ProCross comments are allowed on any forum as long as cockhaven, crnr2cock and tripplefaggot are around.
 

19 minutes ago, stinkipinki said:

Stop it with that, no positive ProCross comments are allowed on any forum as long as cockhaven, crnr2cock and tripplefaggot are around.
 

you don't even own an Arctic Cat, let alone a Procross Stinki-copy/paste...  

this is one of the best Procross made, and I prefer riding my 2010's to it all day long.  

 

 

2 hours ago, stinkipinki said:

Stop it with that, no positive ProCross comments are allowed on any forum as long as cockhaven, crnr2cock and tripplefaggot are around.
 

Ok there finger up the stinki ass, very few care about the early 2000 Cat tech

Edited October 16, 20232 yr by Tripleflipper

On 10/16/2023 at 2:06 PM, Crnr2Crnr said:

you don't even own an Arctic Cat, let alone a Procross Stinki-copy/paste...  

this is one of the best Procross made, and I prefer riding my 2010's to it all day long.  

 

 

Gimme 15 miles on that. I bet it won’t make it 12 

1 minute ago, Not greg b said:

Gimme 15 miles on that. I bet it won’t make it 12 

should easily do 30 miles with a new engine

so we'll plan a 26 mile route...

2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

should easily do 30 miles with a new engine

so we'll plan a 26 mile route...

don’t ride it anywhere. Let’s have a run off. Fresh rxc vs cattle ass. Only advantage is the cattle ass will be run on a hose to cheat first stage of brake in. Which on will make it?? 

10 hours ago, Not greg b said:

don’t ride it anywhere. Let’s have a run off. Fresh rxc vs cattle ass. Only advantage is the cattle ass will be run on a hose to cheat first stage of brake in. Which on will make it?? 

Sno Pro 500 

 

5 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

Sno Pro 500 

 

Or the 720 mod. Pack the tow rope 

17 hours ago, Not greg b said:

Gimme 15 miles on that. I bet it won’t make it 12 

Ben, is that you?

On 10/18/2023 at 10:18 PM, racinfarmer said:

Is that the building that drove arctic cat into the hands of textron?

10 hours ago, Palu49 said:

Is that the building that drove arctic cat into the hands of textron?

No.  Cat renovated a building in the trendy North Loop that was on a 10 year lease.  

That is how the spend about the last 40 mil or so they had to cash.

They weren't even there a year.

Fricken criminal how that CEO wasted money there.

Edited October 20, 20232 yr by racinfarmer

2 hours ago, racinfarmer said:

No.  Cat renovated a building in the trendy North Loop that was on a 10 year lease.  

That is how the spend about the last 40 mil or so they had to cash.

They weren't even there a year.

Fricken criminal how that CEO wasted money there.

A CEO reports to a board of directors. It’s not like one guy is responsible for the company going to shit. Other people at that Cat voted to do that.

14 hours ago, racinfarmer said:

No.  Cat renovated a building in the trendy North Loop that was on a 10 year lease.  

That is how the spend about the last 40 mil or so they had to cash.

They weren't even there a year.

Fricken criminal how that CEO wasted money there.

Some of my pics of the inside (the bar is/was under the neon sign):

@ZR6000RR knows everything that goes on at AC, I bet he has better pics..

This is the beginning of the mod flex (prowler pro)

 

Edited October 21, 20232 yr by krom

5 hours ago, krom said:

Some of my pics of the inside (the bar is/was under the neon sign):

@ZR6000RR knows everything that goes on at AC, I bet he has better pics..

This is the beginning of the mod flex (prowler pro)

 

I don’t see renovating a building as being the final nail in the coffin for Cat. They were trying to attract skilled people to work for them. Many skilled people don’t want to live in the middle of nowhere. It simply boils down to Cat not changing the body work on their sled often enough to give the impression of things being new. Also, they didn’t fix long running problems with the Procross, used cheap parts and didn’t keep up with the times on the dirt side. They also focused way too much on racing.  The vast majority of snowmobilers don’t give two shits about racing. That marketing budget is better spent on dipshit influencers rather than racers. People would rather look at selfies of bro brahs on a mountain peak than some guy racing a sled in sno-x that has nothing to do with what is actually sold in the showroom. 

2 hours ago, AK440 said:

I don’t see renovating a building as being the final nail in the coffin for Cat. They were trying to attract skilled people to work for them. Many skilled people don’t want to live in the middle of nowhere. It simply boils down to Cat not changing the body work on their sled often enough to give the impression of things being new. Also, they didn’t fix long running problems with the Procross, used cheap parts and didn’t keep up with the times on the dirt side. They also focused way too much on racing.  The vast majority of snowmobilers don’t give two shits about racing. That marketing budget is better spent on dipshit influencers rather than racers. People would rather look at selfies of bro brahs on a mountain peak than some guy racing a sled in sno-x that has nothing to do with what is actually sold in the showroom. 

Cat was already right down the road from there. They were tanking and blew a bunch on money to move into down town shittapolis from Plymouth for no good reason at all. They were in it for less than a year and only had 60 employees working there. A building that big was not needed before and after. 

Edited October 21, 20232 yr by Not greg b

6 hours ago, Not greg b said:

Cat was already right down the road from there. They were tanking and blew a bunch on money to move into down town shittapolis from Plymouth for no good reason at all. They were in it for less than a year and only had 60 employees working there. A building that big was not needed before and after. 

Again, they wanted to attract and retain talented people. A building didn’t put them under. The lack of innovation and quality control did. 

8 minutes ago, AK440 said:

Again, they wanted to attract and retain talented people. A building didn’t put them under. The lack of innovation and quality control did. 

When you burn up the last of the cash reserves on a leased building and a remodel vs. R&D for innovation, yeah...

The building certainly didn't help.

No one in the North Loop gives 2 shits of Cat, Polaris, Yamaha, or Ski-Doo would have their world headquarters.

Not a single damn one.

1 hour ago, racinfarmer said:

When you burn up the last of the cash reserves on a leased building and a remodel vs. R&D for innovation, yeah...

The building certainly didn't help.

No one in the North Loop gives 2 shits of Cat, Polaris, Yamaha, or Ski-Doo would have their world headquarters.

Not a single damn one.

Let's go back to 1981 maybe.  You stupid fuckers? 

18 hours ago, AK440 said:

I don’t see renovating a building as being the final nail in the coffin for Cat. They were trying to attract skilled people to work for them. Many skilled people don’t want to live in the middle of nowhere. It simply boils down to Cat not changing the body work on their sled often enough to give the impression of things being new. Also, they didn’t fix long running problems with the Procross, used cheap parts and didn’t keep up with the times on the dirt side. They also focused way too much on racing.  The vast majority of snowmobilers don’t give two shits about racing. That marketing budget is better spent on dipshit influencers rather than racers. People would rather look at selfies of bro brahs on a mountain peak than some guy racing a sled in sno-x that has nothing to do with what is actually sold in the showroom. 

you trying to prove you know less than jimwit??  If so you are doing an awful good job

7 hours ago, ZR6000RR said:

Let's go back to 1981 maybe.  You stupid fuckers? 

I'll condense this:

They burned the last of their cash reserves on a leased building in the North Loop, where no one cares about snowmobiles, ATV's, or SxS.

That should have gone to R&D.

9 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

I'll condense this:

They burned the last of their cash reserves on a leased building in the North Loop, where no one cares about snowmobiles, ATV's, or SxS.

That should have gone to R&D.

Exactly, they should have been releasing the catalyst, and 858 at that show.  They blew more money in one year on the unused "HQ" than they did on R&D in the prior 5 years combined

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by krom

20 minutes ago, krom said:

Exactly, they should have been releasing the catalyst, and 858 at that show.  They blew more money in one year on the unused "HQ" than they did on R&D in the prior 5 years combined

4 seater Wildcat XX, market competitive ATV's, what you listed, promote the newly acquired Motorfist brand, factory improvement, etc.

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by racinfarmer