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new cat big bore ...

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  • So, to summarize: We now will have the new chassis that was never needed with a more ergonomic riding position and a substantial diet that was never needed, the new big bore that was never needed

  • First catalyst came in, fit and finish is very good, (thank god after what the prototypes looked like).

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1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

You can outrun Jimwit on a snoscoot.

You could outrun him on snowshoes

15 minutes ago, Tripleflipper said:

You could outrun him on snowshoes

You could not out run a sloth.

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2 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said:

You could not out run a sloth.

I bet he can pull start his own sled... 

35 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

I bet he can pull start his own sled... 

I can too. I just prefer to use the standard electric start. Do you push start your car or pickup?

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9 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said:

I can too. I just prefer to use the standard electric start. Do you push start your car or pickup?

are either of those a two stroke with a recoil? 

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12 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

are either of those a two stroke with a recoil? 

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Not the point, but you knew that. 

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1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said:

Not the point, but you knew that. 

ok genius...

how do you push start a vehicle with an automatic transmission? 

can you buck start a modern vehicle with a manual transmission?  

how do you start a SkiDoo with a dead battery, if it's not tipped over? 

 

4 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

ok genius...

how do you push start a vehicle with an automatic transmission? 

can you buck start a modern vehicle with a manual transmission?  

how do you start a SkiDoo with a dead battery, if it's not tipped over? 

 

Just made you look foolish. Now I can go back to my day. Classic idiot take.

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looks like 129 atac sleds have been pushed to end of the list.  As of today they are showing last to be built.

129 ifp will be built before

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42 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said:

Just made you look foolish. Now I can go back to my day. Classic idiot take.

Oh?

:roflcrying:

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48 minutes ago, krom said:

looks like 129 atac sleds have been pushed to end of the list.  As of today they are showing last to be built.

129 ifp will be built before

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1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

I wasn’t spending 2 grand for a shitty computer controlled one setting shock. Iact sleds and riots were the easiest to find. If it was like the mag used in gm sports cars or brp products then it would be worth getting 

17 minutes ago, Not greg b said:

I wasn’t spending 2 grand for a shitty computer controlled one setting shock. Iact sleds and riots were the easiest to find. If it was like the mag used in gm sports cars or brp products then it would be worth getting 

Surprised nobody's come out with a dsc type adjuster thats electronic yet. With the basic iact system in place you'd think it wouldn't be that hard to do

36 minutes ago, Not greg b said:

I wasn’t spending 2 grand for a shitty computer controlled one setting shock. Iact sleds and riots were the easiest to find. If it was like the mag used in gm sports cars or brp products then it would be worth getting 

It's three settings. ;)

I'm surprised how little that adjustment gets changed.  I don't ride the ATAC sled a whole lot, but it's rare to move the setting. The shocks are kinda meh and certainly work better with big guys.  They seem to get the shocks moving enough to get travel and notice the difference.

It seems like a cool feature, but it's a poor choice for myself with the current setup.  I'd love to see Cat do a little fine tuning.  They could knock it out of the park with the simple bar adjustment process on the IACT sleds.  Add some manual adjustment to the presets and let users toggle between setting that work for them. 

It still blows me away that I have had the best luck with a sled they call the RR.  The name throws people off.  Those shocks are actually adjustable.  I can set them up for my weight and ride harder with way less effort.

 

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20 minutes ago, favoritos said:

It's three settings. ;)

It still blows me away that I have had the best luck with a sled they call the RR.  The name throws people off.  Those shocks are actually adjustable.  I can set them up for my weight and ride harder with way less effort.

 

QS3 (3 position) makes sense for the masses ... on the brothers RXC having the rebound adjustment makes them easier to dial in better, but not as accurately as DSC.  

this said, I'd bet most people would be/are best served with just the three simple positions as most would actually make their sleds worse with high/low/rebound options.  

Lynx/BRP dealer guy I've gotten to know a bit said most of the XRS and big bump sleds he sees customers come in with are just a mess of adjustments and improperly set up.

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45 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

QS3 (3 position) makes sense for the masses ... on the brothers RXC having the rebound adjustment makes them easier to dial in better, but not as accurately as DSC.  

this said, I'd bet most people would be/are best served with just the three simple positions as most would actually make their sleds worse with high/low/rebound options.  

Lynx/BRP dealer guy I've gotten to know a bit said most of the XRS and big bump sleds he sees customers come in with are just a mess of adjustments and improperly set up.

anything more than 123 is too much for the average rider (which includes 90% of the guys who buy rr/rxc/xrs/whatever poo calls their version these days)

1 hour ago, favoritos said:

It's three settings. ;)

I'm surprised how little that adjustment gets changed.  I don't ride the ATAC sled a whole lot, but it's rare to move the setting. The shocks are kinda meh and certainly work better with big guys.  They seem to get the shocks moving enough to get travel and notice the difference.

It seems like a cool feature, but it's a poor choice for myself with the current setup.  I'd love to see Cat do a little fine tuning.  They could knock it out of the park with the simple bar adjustment process on the IACT sleds.  Add some manual adjustment to the presets and let users toggle between setting that work for them. 

It still blows me away that I have had the best luck with a sled they call the RR.  The name throws people off.  Those shocks are actually adjustable.  I can set them up for my weight and ride harder with way less effort.

 

They really need a 5 setting shock for it to be worth while. A setting between 1 and 2 and a setting between 2 and 3. The air shock set and zero-x set up the older rr came with was a lot better as you could dial it right in. Especially the 2015 tucker that had the dual speeds on the front. That one was probably the best out of the box rr suspension wise I have had. 

2 hours ago, Cat45 said:

Surprised nobody's come out with a dsc type adjuster thats electronic yet. With the basic iact system in place you'd think it wouldn't be that hard to do

I honestly think that would be a waste of time at this point because of other technologies that have been out for a long time in the automotive world. Skidoo is trying to do the mag ride thing on sleds and that would be the way to go for the mass market as you wouldn’t have to adjust anything. Parts availability has been the issue for them to get it off the ground on the snowmobiles. Polaris and brp has had it on sxs for a while now and it works. It’s only a matter of time before they getting it going on the snow side 

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27 minutes ago, Not greg b said:

I honestly think that would be a waste of time at this point because of other technologies that have been out for a long time in the automotive world. Skidoo is trying to do the mag ride thing on sleds and that would be the way to go for the mass market as you wouldn’t have to adjust anything. Parts availability has been the issue for them to get it off the ground on the snowmobiles. Polaris and brp has had it on sxs for a while now and it works. It’s only a matter of time before they getting it going on the snow side 

doesn't poo use fox's live valve on their sxs stuff, and not mag fluid?

19 minutes ago, krom said:

doesn't poo use fox's live valve on their sxs stuff, and not mag fluid?

Yeah I think polaris calls it dynamics or something. Pretty cool tech, I'd really like to try a rzr with it sometime 

1 hour ago, krom said:

anything more than 123 is too much for the average rider (which includes 90% of the guys who buy rr/rxc/xrs/whatever poo calls their version these days)

My new XRS is coming with EA3s. Will run stock this year and see how I like them.

If not they'll be going to monster for the older 23 click single adjuster or the all out H/L/R adjusters.

I have stage 4 elkas on my atv, so I know how much of a difference being able to adjust H/L/R independently makes. It's huge.

49 minutes ago, krom said:

doesn't poo use fox's live valve on their sxs stuff, and not mag fluid?

I have never looked into how they are actually doing it as I don’t ever care to ever own a sxs. I know they have had an active system of some sort a while. Could very well be the fox system. I would put money on it polaris and skidoo put no time into those systems and bought them from someone to install on their stuff. 

12 hours ago, ZR6000RR said:

Nope! I just question ass holes who get to close to my shit. 

Lets get this straight, you parked next to us.  

2 hours ago, Cat45 said:

Yeah I think polaris calls it dynamics or something. Pretty cool tech, I'd really like to try a rzr with it sometime 

Wasn't the old blue bodied shocks on the 01 Sno-Pro's Dynamic brand shocks?

1 minute ago, racinfarmer said:

Lets get this straight, you parked next to us.  

Wasn't the old blue bodied shocks on the 01 Sno-Pro's Dynamic brand shocks?

You were not there when I parked.

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