Badger** Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 https://www.arcticinsider.com/2023-arctic-cat-snowmobile-preview/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Disappointing but understandable considering the the circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 ..... 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ACE said: Disappointing but understandable considering the the circumstances Understandable is limiting production to deliver on time. Its not understandable to continue to basically give up on innovation. I really like Cat's chassis but its time to step it up or they will be outsold right out of the business and none of us want that. I would buy a higher HP cat 2 smoke in a heartbeat. Edited March 15, 2022 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Understandable is limiting production to deliver on time. Its not understandable to continue to basically give up on innovation. I really like Cat's chassis but its time to step it up or they will be outsold right out of the business and none of us want that. I would buy a higher HP cat 2 smoke in a heartbeat. They needed a 900 twin for sure. Really that’s all they needed to do, and even limit supply a lot of they had to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ACE said: They needed a 900 twin for sure. Really that’s all they needed to do, and even limit supply a lot of they had to Yep. Would have sold old every single one in a matter of hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I don't think anyone expected anything different from textron for 2023. They'll still sell all the sleds they can manage to produce. The disappointment was more a couple years ago before the supply shortages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Contributing Member $poorsledder$ Posted March 15, 2022 USA Contributing Member Share Posted March 15, 2022 Is cat still building for Yamaha in Minnesota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkipinki Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 At this point, they are positioning themselves out of business. IMHO it would have been better to have a new chassis with supply chain issues to generate excitement, with possibly a new 900 CTEC mill. This strategy would pay off more in the long run and bring back more customers as it would keep interest peaked, and keep folks talking. But Arctic Cat is no longer Arctic Cat, the company that never played it safe, is once again, playing it safe. RIOTS with 1500 miles can be had 2nd hand for $9500 - $10,500 in my area. While the new dinky 2 strokes Turbo's won't touch a ramped up 998 making 340HP, that market continues to die down as all of those boomers get older. While it continues to be a long slow death, there is no doubt, death to Cat is coming. Take a risk you fucking pansies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 With pricing death will come to every manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yep. Would have sold old every single one in a matter of hours. They couldn't properly map the 800 since 2018... yet people think they could build and map an EPA approved 900? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: They couldn't properly map the 800 since 2018... yet people think they could build and map an EPA approved 900? They better fucking hire Yamaha to do it for them or I'd run like hell from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p51mstg Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Walmart made a lot of money having a guy standing at the front door handing out stickers. Just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Unless they offer something to pull in new customers, they will die. There is NOTHING that will pull in new customers. The ThunderCat and the Blast are niche products, and not mainstream enough to turn that organization around. Buying a Cat now would be nuts. You are buying a dead end product. Either from the standpoint of it being obsolete, or in terms of them no longer being a viable snowmobile manufacturer. This was precisely the reason that I jumped ship a year ago. I'm sorry- only a fool would buy a '23 Procross...... BAD investment (not that ANY toys are a good investment).... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ziemann said: Unless they offer something to pull in new customers, they will die. There is NOTHING that will pull in new customers. The ThunderCat and the Blast are niche products, and not mainstream enough to turn that organization around. Buying a Cat now would be nuts. You are buying a dead end product. Either from the standpoint of it being obsolete, or in terms of them no longer being a viable snowmobile manufacturer. This was precisely the reason that I jumped ship a year ago. I'm sorry- only a fool would buy a '23 Procross...... BAD investment (not that ANY toys are a good investment).... You're overthinking the hell out of this. I've been happy in that chassis for 5 years, and could easily go another 5. If I got a very fair deal on a 23 Sidewinder I would buy it in a heartbeat. Second bold: Paid $14900 for my sled... could sell it for $10-11k easily right now.... Edited March 15, 2022 by Snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Highmark said: Yep. Would have sold old every single one in a matter of hours. Would've sold every 800rxc also. Simple parts bin special machine made with all existing parts. Might have to make my own this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdsky Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 It's getting harder every year to keep beating a dead horse.... Next year fans, next year, just wait, just wait....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cat45 said: Would've sold every 800rxc also. Simple parts bin special machine made with all existing parts. Might have to make my own this year Yeah that does seem like a no brainer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I finally like my 19rr after 3 seasons of messing with it. Last Saturday did 180 mi of fast extremely rough trail and it worked perfectly. Too bad i had to do so much to get an 800 to run/handle like it should. Stock it felt like a good running 600 and ran hot all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 16, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Cat45 said: Would've sold every 800rxc also. Simple parts bin special machine made with all existing parts. Might have to make my own this year Simply put Cat's not trying anymore. Really a shame they've made some awesome sleds over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 hours ago, ACE said: Disappointing but understandable considering the the circumstances What circumstances the biggest demand for powersports in my life ? Yeah best to just lay low in the atomic explosion of demand for toys just to be safe .lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: What circumstances the biggest demand for powersports in my life ? Yeah best to just lay low in the atomic explosion of demand for toys just to be safe .lmfao Supply chains are still shit due to government and deliveries on snowmobiles are very toke sensitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Snake said: You're overthinking the hell out of this. I've been happy in that chassis for 5 years, and could easily go another 5. If I got a very fair deal on a 23 Sidewinder I would buy it in a heartbeat. Second bold: Paid $14900 for my sled... could sell it for $10-11k easily right now.... Same. Seriously people are fucking dumb. Ski foo changes their plastics and calls it a new chassis. That’s actually embarrassing to fall for that they could just keep refining the procross and that be fine with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, ACE said: Same. Seriously people are fucking dumb. Ski foo changes their plastics and calls it a new chassis. That’s actually embarrassing to fall for that they could just keep refining the procross and that be fine with me Except the g4 is a completely different and better chassis. The procross was shit in 2012 and it’s shit today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICG Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Sad, expected more from Arctic Cat! Where is R + D did they go on vacation, with the Ski Doo hood designer.. . A protype for 2023 would be enthusiastic for the market, even if they only built demo's this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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