ArcticCrusher Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Deephaven said: No shit, look up SARS 2003. Might explain the research. Stop trying to learn on twitter and actually think for once. So why were patents filed back in 1998 for SARS 2003? Let's get them goalposts moving again shall we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildMann Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 15 hours ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Your theory there works great though, doesn’t it? Just like in politics? Simple fact of the matter here is no one is going to have their views/beliefs changed by arguing here. It makes some feel better about themselves but that’s about it. Well, people actually have to do some work to get there. This also applies to politics. But, as you have probably noticed, the majority of people are lazy, and would much rather take the easy route and listen to propaganda. The other issue is populism created by the social media platforms. Most sheep do not like to swim against the current. Most people do not have the will to go against mainstream because they will be shunned. This is a weakness that has been taught, and in my opinion, the real issue. Open dialogue and even arguing can and does change things, but not overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: So why were patents filed back in 1998 for SARS 2003? Let's get them goalposts moving again shall we. Can't wait to hear how this is relevant to the vaccine being the cause of the Covid outbreak. You are out in left field at the moment. Going to tie this together for us? Can you do it without twitter and actually have anything to back it up. For instance, sharing said patent would be a start and then drawing your conclusion based on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Can't wait to hear how this is relevant to the vaccine being the cause of the Covid outbreak. You are out in left field at the moment. Going to tie this together for us? Can you do it without twitter and actually have anything to back it up. For instance, sharing said patent would be a start and then drawing your conclusion based on it. The vaccines were supposed to bring the virus under control, has that happened? No quite the opposite. The same author filed patents for SARS years before it was discovered. Nothing to see, what a dim bulb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 14 days to flatten the curve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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irv Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, CFM said: 14 days to flatten the curve...... .....until we have vaccines.....until we have 70% of the population inoculated............until 80% (now likely 90%?) are inoculated........until we have vaccine passports.......until we have boosters and everyone gets one........ I'm not sure how many haven't figured this out yet, but it is never going to end as long as people keep buying in. Cases are rising each and everyday yet the vast majority of populations are now vaccinated?? I mean, the stupidity and hypocrisy is all around us, and has been since the start, but some are still too blind to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, WildMann said: Well, people actually have to do some work to get there. This also applies to politics. But, as you have probably noticed, the majority of people are lazy, and would much rather take the easy route and listen to propaganda. The other issue is populism created by the social media platforms. Most sheep do not like to swim against the current. Most people do not have the will to go against mainstream because they will be shunned. This is a weakness that has been taught, and in my opinion, the real issue. Open dialogue and even arguing can and does change things, but not overnight. No, all it does is create sounding boards for like minded people. No one is coming together and making a middle ground on anything anymore. The “middle ground” are the people that have decided to ignore all of the arguing and move on with their lives however they see fit. Wake the fuck up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Talk of a new vaccine for the new variant why would they bother? People here say the original is so incredibly amazing that it’s significantly better than natural immunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 16 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: So non-covid excess deaths are at a 10 year high. What could it be? Facebook tries a bs factcheck so is the obesity rate Baghdad Bob The United States ranks 12th in the world for obesity. According to the Center for Disease Control (CDC), approximately 36.9% of American adults age 20 and older were obese based on 2015-2016 data. 37.9% of men and 41.1% of women are considered to be obese in the United States. This is twice as many as three decades ago. Approximately 15% of children and teens are overweight, three times as many as there were in the 1980s. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/obesity-rate-by-state this past year a family member went off on a rant about Covid, masks and vaccines and then proceeded to bring up heart disease, cancer and some other common 'health' killers to which I replied "If you have heart disease or cancer and sneeze or cough on me, I'm not going to get heart disease or cancer, can you say the same of Covid?" he hasn't spoken to me about the topic since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: The vaccines were supposed to bring the virus under control, has that happened? No quite the opposite. The same author filed patents for SARS years before it was discovered. Nothing to see, what a dim bulb. So you can't explain why this is relevant to your claim that the vaccines are causing the pandemic to be worse. I see you and your cronies reverted to stating the vaccine isn't effective which is a complete different discussion than the nonsense you promoted that I am refuting. No question the vaccine is a shot and not as effective as it needs to be, but it isn't the cause of the shit that is happening now like you claim. If it is, show us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Deephaven said: So you can't explain why this is relevant to your claim that the vaccines are causing the pandemic to be worse. I see you and your cronies reverted to stating the vaccine isn't effective which is a complete different discussion than the nonsense you promoted that I am refuting. No question the vaccine is a shot and not as effective as it needs to be, but it isn't the cause of the shit that is happening now like you claim. If it is, show us. Common sense would indicate the variants are being amplified either in the vaxxed or unvaxxed. Which one makes more sense? This ain't rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Common sense would indicate the variants are being amplified either in the vaxxed or unvaxxed. Which one makes more sense? This ain't rocket science. Variants amplified. Do tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Common sense would indicate the variants are being amplified either in the vaxxed or unvaxxed. Which one makes more sense? This ain't rocket science. They were warned that would happen too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 23 hours ago, Deephaven said: Even in your response his mutations claims are nulled as it is single faceted. You claim it is only the spike protein initiating the response but natural immunity does the rest. This means that outside of said protein that they both attack the virus the same. His claim is this is the cause of the explosion and a disease of the vaccinated. You just backed up that it is not. Amusingly he is still searching twitter for some obscure note to have a come back with. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, s pump said: Huh? The dude is in a cult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: The vaccines were supposed to bring the virus under control, has that happened? No quite the opposite. The same author filed patents for SARS years before it was discovered. Nothing to see, what a dim bulb. So no connection to the previous premise that it causes things to be as they are. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 hours ago, irv said: .....until we have vaccines.....until we have 70% of the population inoculated............until 80% (now likely 90%?) are inoculated........until we have vaccine passports.......until we have boosters and everyone gets one........ I'm not sure how many haven't figured this out yet, but it is never going to end as long as people keep buying in. Cases are rising each and everyday yet the vast majority of populations are now vaccinated?? I mean, the stupidity and hypocrisy is all around us, and has been since the start, but some are still too blind to see it. Imagine looking at these and NOT seeing the idiocy in them and deciding all these “precautions” make sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Imagine looking at these and NOT seeing the idiocy in them and deciding all these “precautions” make sense. And places that have had no rules at all are doing the same or better than where they still have strict leftist fascism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, ACE said: And places that have had no rules at all are doing the same or better than where they still have strict leftist fascism It’s just the modern, grade A medicine, western type (heavy political) countries that are all fucked up. Wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Deephaven said: So you can't explain why this is relevant to your claim that the vaccines are causing the pandemic to be worse. I see you and your cronies reverted to stating the vaccine isn't effective which is a complete different discussion than the nonsense you promoted that I am refuting. No question the vaccine is a shot and not as effective as it needs to be, but it isn't the cause of the shit that is happening now like you claim. If it is, show us. What is causing this? Are you really this obtuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p51mstg Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 We’ve lost site of all the things that are happening just in time for Christmas. It’s not just a new strain, it’s also Billy Idol at the Palace Theater in St. Paul. Anybody see him recently? I think that leaves any pathetic virus in the dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Other New Variant Timing coincidences 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: What is causing this? Are you really this obtuse? Again irrelevant to what we were discussing. I never said ANYTHING about the merits of the vaccine, the mandate, it's side effects or whether you or anyone should take it. As you know I chose not to which are related to the previous, but not what I called you out on. All I am responding about is the complete and utter nonsense that the current situation is BECAUSE of the vaccine that you are your conspirancy crowd keep spewing. You are so fixated on trying to push the conversation to discuss those other points ignoring the claims you've all made in that regard. The rest isn't in discussion with me. That shit is more bat shit crazy than those that claim the vaccine is the most glorious weapon to instantly end Covid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Again irrelevant to what we were discussing. I never said ANYTHING about the merits of the vaccine, the mandate, it's side effects or whether you or anyone should take it. As you know I chose not to which are related to the previous, but not what I called you out on. All I am responding about is the complete and utter nonsense that the current situation is BECAUSE of the vaccine that you are your conspirancy crowd keep spewing. You are so fixated on trying to push the conversation to discuss those other points ignoring the claims you've all made in that regard. The rest isn't in discussion with me. That shit is more bat shit crazy than those that claim the vaccine is the most glorious weapon to instantly end Covid. What is causing the increase in heart attacks in perfectly healthy individuals if not from the jab? Take your best shot. Debunked my fucking ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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