Kev144 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, bussman said: I’d get a Polaris, but then I’d be like you. Can’t have any of that whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kev144 said: Actually he would be a faggot if he did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: So I remember Ben talking about how all the bearings in his skid on his Polaris went to hell in no time and I was just reading over on HCS and Northstar Rick was answering a guy who has the same issue and he said that while Polaris does use NTN bearings they are the cheap Chinese version and when they pull them apart they are dry as a bone. Throw in the stupid oil cap venting issue and it really makes you wonder WTF these manus are thinking...yeah I know bean counters and bottom lines....but WTF? Also I know it's not limited to Polaris so save it! Like I said on TBP it amazes me that Poo survived through the garbage they developed in the mid to late 2000's.....Fusion 900, FST 750, CFI 800, all complete junk. My guess would be the ATV side has kept the sled side afloat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kev144 said: Have you seen Team Polaris lately? You Drew Analer......... Yeah, not cool at all. 4 minutes ago, Momorider said: Actually he would be a faggot if he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, bussman said: Have you seen Team Polaris lately? You Drew Analer......... Yeah, not cool at all. To drop the jokes, I'd seriously watch the new cats to make sure an update is done on the flaming issue. Vince has had it and others have had it melt the belly pan on the sled. No fix yet. The new 800 currently is a turd. The zook was much better motor. But I guess since you are gay now, having a flaming sled suits you and momo the homo just right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayout Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I may have thought the XCR was the better of the "Replica" types too since it's still new. Ben convinced me otherwise. And Walker Evans shocks? Except the xcr isn’t a replica wannabe. It’s a unbox, revalve, and take it racing sled and has been advertised as such. Ben had a had a soft ass pro S. The needle shocks on my xcr are excellent. Ask the 4 guys that ride it this weekend. Aside from the same chassis, engine, and ride height, that’s about the only similarity the xcr shares with the pro-s. Edited March 1, 2018 by thewayout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kev144 said: To drop the jokes, I'd seriously watch the new cats to make sure an update is done on the flaming issue. Vince has had it and others have had it melt the belly pan on the sled. No fix yet. The new 800 currently is a turd. The zook was much better motor. But I guess since you are gay now, having a flaming sled suits you and momo the homo just right. The motor is bad ass, it’s the clutching that’s lazy. Easily remedied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, thewayout said: Except the xcr isn’t a replica wannabe. It’s a unbox, revalve, and take it racing sled and has been advertised as such. Wtf does Ben know about that sled, he had a soft ass pro S. The needle shocks on my xcr are excellent. Ask the 4 guys that ride it this weekend. Aside from the same chassis, engine, and ride height, that’s about the only similarity the xcr shares with the pro-s. Why the revalve out of the box? I'd think if you are revalving it, you bought the wrong sled. Those should be rough trail valved shocks....at consumer level. "Take racing" out of the box? No. From my understanding, it's still not a true race sled. The only brand that sells a true racer to consumers is Cat with the R-XC. The amount of work that needs to be done to the XCR before it can be raced is similar to what needs to be done to the RR or XRS. And even then....that rear won't work on the track as well. I know, that stings a bit. But, it stings the guys buying the XRS and the RR that bought it thinking they were buying a real racer also. So, you are in good company. Still, it's a quality rough trail sled for sure. I'd consider it. But not over Polaris' real racer....not by a long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Rod Johnson said: Meanwhile my old 1996 Mack Z with triple pipes just goes man every day As a Ski-Doo guy. Anything with Mach Z on the side is a ticking time bomb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Why the revalve out of the box? I'd think if you are revalving it, you bought the wrong sled. Those should be rough trail valved shocks....at consumer level. "Take racing" out of the box? No. It's still not a true race sled. The only brand that sells a true racer to consumers is Cat with the R-XC. The amount of work that needs to be done to the XCR before it can be raced is similar to what needs to be done to the RR or XRS. And even then....that rear won't work on the track as well. I know, that stings a bit. But, it stings the guys buying the XRS and the RR that bought it thinking they were buying a real racer also. So, you are in good company. Still, it's a quality rough trail sled for sure. I'd consider it. But not over Polaris' real racer....not by a long shot. Dude, aren't you almost 50? The wannabe snocrosser/ditchbanger thoughts should have left your head a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, snoughnut said: Dude, aren't you almost 50? The wannabe snocrosser/ditchbanger thoughts should have left your head a long time ago. Woolies 75. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 46 minutes ago, snoughnut said: Yep, all of what you said are valid points and mother nature being a bitch the last 3 years is another big issue. If I ever buy another sled it will be an older sled that I can repair in the other 11 months you can't ride. zero desire to spend 10 - 15k on the junk they're making today. Correct, I will keep looking for a Sidewinder , but the used prices just haven't come down enough for me . The old Apex has been very trouble free and gets the job done well , other than the same crappy bearing issues as all snowmobiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, bussman said: The motor is bad ass, it’s the clutching that’s lazy. Easily remedied. It's a fuel mapping issue it sounds like. Sleds don't shoot flames from poor clutching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayout Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Why the revalve out of the box? I'd think if you are revalving it, you bought the wrong sled. Those should be rough trail valved shocks....at consumer level. "Take racing" out of the box? No. From my understanding, it's still not a true race sled. The only brand that sells a true racer to consumers is Cat with the R-XC. The amount of work that needs to be done to the XCR before it can be raced is similar to what needs to be done to the RR or XRS. And even then....that rear won't work on the track as well. I know, that stings a bit. But, it stings the guys buying the XRS and the RR that bought it thinking they were buying a real racer also. So, you are in good company. Still, it's a quality rough trail sled for sure. I'd consider it. But not over Polaris' real racer....not by a long shot. Listen I’m not talking about faggot ass 70 mph no sway bar SX sleds, I’m talking about real cross country sleds, you know the Xross Country Racer that just won the iron dog. Polaris itself has verbally stated that the rush sleds are not good snocross machines, they weren’t designed to be. the XCR and sleds like the RR and XRS are two totally different types of sleds. Edited March 1, 2018 by thewayout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledderj Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: I think the biggest problem from the "oil cap vent" is people overfilling the reseviours. My PC had the top level a good bit down from the cap. Never filled it past that...never had a problem. People have a tendancy to top everything off to the point of running over. Cap venting only works if the vents aren't filled with oil. Pre-mix FTW!!!! Lots of sleds are on their side or upside down on a regular basis. I put a skee-dooo oil cap on my Pro because it has a better vent design that doesn't get bunged up with oil. 43 minutes ago, snoughnut said: Like I said on TBP it amazes me that Poo survived through the garbage they developed in the mid to late 2000's.....Fusion 900, FST 750, CFI 800, all complete junk. My guess would be the ATV side has kept the sled side afloat. Polaris has sold a redonkulous number of mountain sleds since they introduced the Pro in 2011. Shitty motors and all. The old 800 has been fairly decent after 2013 - 14. The newest version has been even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bussman said: I sold a 91’ Cougar last year that literally never had problem the last 10 years. that was my first sled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, awful knawful said: As a Ski-Doo guy. Anything with Mach Z on the side is a ticking time bomb! Not mine man she just goes it has triple pipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bussman said: Never will I buy a first year model again. My 06’ F7 was top to bottom better than the 03’. Spring checking a 19’ 800RR cat kicks you in the balls yet you keep coming back for more SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bussman said: Have you seen Team Polaris lately? You Drew Analer......... Yeah, not cool at all. don't forget woolie - when you have the godfather of the intrawebs on your team you are clearly WINNING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 why the fuck anyone spring checks this day and age is puzzling. had they waited a little while they could get the thing much cheaper, especially after crappy winters and sales are hurting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: why the fuck anyone spring checks this day and age is puzzling. had they waited a little while they could get the thing much cheaper, especially after crappy winters and sales are hurting. Hard to find certain models during the year. Sometimes the snow check price is really good, and you usually get a longer warranty. I buy leftovers mostly unless I gotta have a specific one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: why the fuck anyone spring checks this day and age is puzzling. had they waited a little while they could get the thing much cheaper, especially after crappy winters and sales are hurting. I usually snow check for the sometimes limited models, longer warranty and usually some kick backs like 500 in accessories etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, snoughnut said: Dude, aren't you almost 50? The wannabe snocrosser/ditchbanger thoughts should have left your head a long time ago. Age is a state of mind, Brah! I can still dance....just not as long. They make testosterone shots. Check into that. 26 minutes ago, thewayout said: Listen I’m not talking about faggot ass 70 mph no sway bar SX sleds, I’m talking about real cross country sleds, you know the Xross Country Racer that just won the iron dog. Polaris itself has verbally stated that the rush sleds are not good snocross machines, they weren’t designed to be. the XCR and sleds like the RR and XRS are two totally different types of sleds. Oooof! Polaris guys are the most fun to trigger. Easiest too! Hey, congrats on those couple of wins this year....and last....and the year before....etc.... Now, time to go take your ROUGH TRAIL SLED, revalve the shocks and head down to the lake for some drag racing with other 2 stroke 800's. They'll be some "deep pow" guys down there too on their long tracks. They'll revalve their shocks too. Yeah...it all makes sense. 16 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: why the fuck anyone spring checks this day and age is puzzling. had they waited a little while they could get the thing much cheaper, especially after crappy winters and sales are hurting. Honestly, I don't see another new sled ever again. What for....you can buy a current or year old model with almost no miles on it for 30-40% less. Ahhhh....but low interest financing....ahhhhhhhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Kev144 said: My cat has a similar oil cap. I have a vented cap I got from hcs member. You do have to make sure you don't over fill oil on these sleds. Bussman burned down his cat last time because of a bad oil cap vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bussman said: Have you seen Team Polaris lately? You Drew Analer......... Yeah, not cool at all. And your team is...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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