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I wonder if all of these:

Climate scientists

Oil companies

Insurance companies

Hundreds of govts around the world have:

Stopped using their private jets and yachts

Demanded an end to ALL wars and military conflicts due to the critical stage of the climate

Demanded all weapons manufacturers cease all operations immediately since the global military industrial complex is the largest man made emitter of greenhouse gases. 

I'll wait for an official response...

 

 

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1 hour ago, Skidooski said:

30 years ago they claimed many places would be under water. 20 years before that was going to be an ice age. Makes you wonder what 20-30 years from now they will claim for doom and gloom 

Meanwhile Al Gore has made millions off the bullshit 

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39 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

Did they claim they would be permanent under water?  How many times a decade does a house have to get flooded before it’s useless or can’t be insured?  Lots of 100 year floods happening every decade.

But you know that. You just want enough reasonable doubt so you don’t feel guilty. 

Lots of people keep rebuilding in known flood plains. Floods have always happened as have hurricanes and tornados.  

Your kind is chomping at the bit for a hurricane to slam North America and its just not happening like you wish for. Point is the whole thing is speculation.  Nothing more, but lets get the weak minded like yourself and many others scared so we can make as much money as possible.

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On 10/21/2023 at 1:28 PM, XCR1250 said:

Just follow the money.

As if oil companies with their billions in subsidies isn’t the money. 

The report also offers insights as to where the money behind climate misinformation is coming from. All the major donors revealed by the research were American, and included the influential Donors Capital Fund, the ExxonMobil Foundation and Koch Affiliated Foundations. Also included was the Vanguard Charitable Endowment Program, operated by investment firm Vanguard, which was revealed this year to be the largest investor in the global coal industry, to the tune of $86 billion.

 

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On 10/21/2023 at 1:27 PM, toslow said:

Meanwhile Al Gore has made millions off the bullshit 

You dummies chose to spend trillions on wars to make Bush richer rather than billions to put the US ahead of the world in green energy. China has the majority of the green energy business and its dummies like you believing oil companies that is partially to blame. 

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All you have to do is slide the starting point by a few decades and the record will show we are cooling.  

Oil companies are like celebrities.   They push a point they think the public wants yet do nothing different.  This is true on lifestyle, taxes...you name it.   

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12 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

You dummies chose to spend trillions on wars to make Bush richer rather than billions to put the US ahead of the world in green energy. China has the majority of the green energy business and its dummies like you believing oil companies that is partially to blame. 


 

Democrat Quotes on Iraq

Weapons of Mass Destruction

 

Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
-- President Bill Clinton (State of the Union Address), Jan. 27, 1998


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998


"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing.  He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.""Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998


"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998


"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001    

"I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries.  I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."

-- Sen. John Edwards (D, NC) Feb. 24, 2002

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.   We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."   "
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated.  He must be disarmed.  We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Edward Kennedy (D, MA) Sep. 27, 2002

"Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein.  He is a brutal man.  A ruthless man.  A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.  He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.  He's a bad guy.  The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."
-- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002


"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."

-- Senator John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction.  It has refused to take those steps.  That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
-- Sen. Harry Reid (D. NV) Oct. 9, 2002



"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002


"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities.  I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein.  ...  Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein.  Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."  
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002


"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002


"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
-- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)


I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration.  And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction.  What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis.  It cannot happen.  We have to prevent it from happening. 

-- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MT) Nov. 2, 2003
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You also have to look at population explosion in some of these storm prone areas like Florida.of course claims are huge just look at the homes being built their compared to 20 years ago!!

all we heard all summer is gulf temps at historic levels and get ready for multiple extreme hurricanes.

how many we have this year? 
Great to see alternative energy choices but don’t sell me it on scare tactics that we’re going to change the path earth temps are on!show me how I’m going to save money by doing so.what you think electric companies are going to do once they have all of you depended on them?

sure some can become totally self sufficient but most cannot.

 

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Darn Man Made Global Cooling
 
 
Reuters

Ancient landscape formed by rivers revealed deep under Antarctic ice

Will Dunham
Tue, October,  2023, 3 min read
 
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An illustration shows how a landscape the size of Belgium located in Wilkes Land, East Antarctica would appear if the thick ice sheet covering it were lifted away

By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Antarctica has not always been a desolate land of ice and snow. Earth's southernmost continent once was home to rivers and forests teeming with life.

Using satellite observations and ice-penetrating radar, scientists are now getting a glimpse of Antarctica's lost world. Researchers said on Tuesday they have detected buried under the continent's ice sheet a vast ancient landscape, replete with valleys and ridges, apparently shaped by rivers before being engulfed by glaciation long ago.

This landscape, located in East Antarctica's Wilkes Land region bordering the Indian Ocean, covers an area roughly the size of Belgium or the U.S. state of Maryland. The researchers said the landscape appears to date to at least 14 million years ago and perhaps beyond 34 million years ago, when Antarctica entered its deep freeze.

"The landscape is like a snapshot of the past," said Stewart Jamieson, a professor of glaciology at Durham University in England and co-leader of the study published in the journal Nature Communications.

"It is difficult to know what this lost world might have looked like before the ice came along, but it was certainly warmer back then. Depending how far back in time you go, you might have had climates that ranged anywhere from the climate of present-day Patagonia through to something more approaching tropical. Ancient palm tree pollen has been discovered from Antarctica, not far around the coast from our study site," Jamieson added.

Such an environment likely would have been populated by wildlife, Jamieson added, though the region's fossil record is too incomplete to indicate which animals may have inhabited it.

The ice above the ancient landscape measures about 1.4-1.9 miles (2.2 km to 3 km) thick, according to study co-leader Neil Ross, a professor of polar science and environmental geophysics at Newcastle University in England.

The researchers said the land underneath this ice is less well known even than the surface of Mars. They said one way to unlock its mysteries would be to drill through the ice and obtain a core sample of sediments below. This could secure evidence revealing the ancient flora and fauna, as was done with samples obtained in Greenland dating back 2 million years.

The new study used satellite observations of the ice surface, which in some places followed the contours of the buried landscape, and ice-penetrating radar data from a plane flying over the site.

Some previous studies similarly have revealed ancient landscapes beneath Antarctica's ice including mountains and highlands, though the landscape discovered in the new study was the first of its type.

"The landscape has been modified by different processes influenced by rivers, tectonics and glaciation over a very long period of geological time," Ross said.

Right before 34 million years ago, Antarctica's landscape and flora likely resembled today's cold temperate rainforests of Tasmania, New Zealand and South America's Patagonia region, Ross added.

Antarctica was once part of the Gondwana supercontinent that also encompassed what is now Africa, South America, Australia, the Indian subcontinent and the Arabian Peninsula, but eventually split off and became isolated in a geological process called plate tectonics.

Jamieson said the researchers think that when Antarctica's climate was warmer, rivers flowed across the newly identified landscape toward a continental coastline that was created as the other land masses broke away. When the climate cooled, Jamieson said, some small glaciers formed on hills next to the rivers, with valleys deepening amid glacial erosion.

"Then the climate cooled more significantly, and an ice sheet grew which covered the whole continent, swamping any glaciers that had existed before. When that ice growth occurred, the conditions between the base of the ice and the landscape changed to become very cold - and in this way it was no longer able to erode our landscape. Instead, the landscape got preserved, likely for 34 million years," Jamieson added.

(Reporting by Will Dunham; Editing by Daniel Wallis)

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10 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

I can’t get passed the irony of little styrofoam guy crying about the climate. 

He's Snowriders protege, angry, hostile and looking for an argument.  These guys must just enjoy getting poked with a stick.

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On 10/23/2023 at 8:43 AM, Highmark said:

Oil companies are prepping for the electrical revolution! :lmao:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/chevron-acquire-hess-53-billion-deal

Chevron to acquire Hess in $53 billion deal

This is all part of the new oil field discovery of the coast of Guyana. 

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15 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

I can’t get passed the irony of little styrofoam guy crying about the climate. 

Every time I see his name associated with a climate thread, that's the first thought through my mind .... styrofoam!!   And I LAUGH!! :lol:

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