XCR1250 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 California law bans small off-road gas engines, including lawnmowers and chainsaws Asher Notheis Sun, October 10, 2021, 12:46 PM California took another step toward its goal of ridding the state of all gas-powered engines thanks to a new bill signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday. The new law will ban the sale of all off-road, gas-powered engines, including generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers, and even golf carts. Under the new law, these machines must be zero-emissions, meaning they will have to be either battery-powered or plug-in, according to the Los Angeles Times. "This is a pretty modest approach to trying to limit the massive amounts of pollution that this equipment emits, not to mention the health impact on the workers who are using it constantly," Marc Berman, the bill's author, told the outlet. "It’s amazing how people react when they learn how much this equipment pollutes, and how much smog forming and climate changing emissions that small off-road engine equipment creates." The new law is expected to affect nearly 50,000 small businesses. California's budget includes $30 million to help professional landscapers and gardeners quit using gas-powered equipment, but even then, the budget is still not capable of bearing the full financial burden. The National Association of Landscape Professionals also noted how zero-emission commercial equipment is both more expensive and less efficient than gas-powered equipment. A gas-powered riding lawn mower costs between $7,000-$11,000 while the zero-emissions version costs more than twice that amount, according to the outlet. The new rule will be implemented by January 2024, or as soon as regulators determine is "feasible," whichever date is later. The California Air Resources Board has already started working on executing the law, which is a lengthy process scheduled to conclude early next year, per the outlet. Newsom banning futures purchases of gas-powered lawn equipment continues his pursuit of making California run exclusively on green energy. The governor signed an executive order in September 2020 mandating that all of California’s new car sales be zero-emissions models by 2035. The order also requires new bus and truck sales, whenever feasible, to be zero-emissions vehicles by 2045. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) I love it. Let the california liberals put more nails in their coffin. This is just another way to get the rich to PAY THEIR SHARE. Edited October 10, 2021 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 This is excellent. A true study of the fail of a civilization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 10, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 So how long until the other states do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: This is excellent. A true study of the fail of a civilization. All it does is hurt the lower and middle class again. The people that can't afford the latest and greatest as far as technology goes. It really is a true study in the idiocy of liberals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I hope generators are also banned. I can’t wait until the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 10, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 Vast majority of california don’t have a use for the above equipment for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I'm going to open a small hardware store on the border in Nevada and smuggle them in. I'll make a ton of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted October 11, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Skidude600 said: I'm going to open a small hardware store on the border in Nevada and smuggle them in. I'll make a ton of money. Put it in primm right over the border Indian casino lol can’t miss it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Way to fuck 1000s of people out of a job . But it is there fault for sticking around CA in the first place . Honestly I as sort of shocked TX and AZ are even allowing CA residence from obtaining residency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 They are doing nothing more then pushing their perceived problems to somewhere else, to make them "someone else's" problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_zrt Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I didn't know when you plug something in to charge, it equals zero emissions. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3600 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, racer254 said: All it does is hurt the lower and middle class again. The people that can't afford the latest and greatest as far as technology goes. It really is a true study in the idiocy of liberals. Right, but it will be systematic racism to enforce these laws against minorities. So the law will really just apply to existing successful businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, F3600 said: Right, but it will be systematic racism to enforce these laws against minorities. So the law will really just apply to existing successful businesses. They are engaging in what should be considered class warfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 With any luck, the San Andreas fault will crack, and that liberal hell hole will fall into the sea. By 2024, chances are the state will be bankrupt, hell they are already. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I’ve gone electric in my “garden” equipment and some other things. So far my list is string trimmer, chainsaw, leaf blower, and hedge clipper. All are Milwaukee and use the same batteries. All of these outperform their gas counterparts size for size and are much quieter and a joy to run. I’m still on my 30 year old John Deere for mowing, but if it gave up the ghost I wouldn’t count out electric if feasible. Cali is big and if the usual laws of supply and demand apply, production of electric will go way up and cost will come down…while getting better. Look at microwaves, cell phones TVs and computers. My ice auger is an ION and works fantastic. No more stinking gas on the ice fishing spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 11, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Phenom said: I’ve gone electric in my “garden” equipment and some other things. So far my list is string trimmer, chainsaw, leaf blower, and hedge clipper. All are Milwaukee and use the same batteries. All of these outperform their gas counterparts size for size and are much quieter and a joy to run. I’m still on my 30 year old John Deere for mowing, but if it gave up the ghost I wouldn’t count out electric if feasible. Cali is big and if the usual laws of supply and demand apply, production of electric will go way up and cost will come down…while getting better. Look at microwaves, cell phones TVs and computers. My ice auger is an ION and works fantastic. No more stinking gas on the ice fishing spot. Battery stuff works great for the average homeowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Battery stuff works great for the average homeowner Is the average homeowner the people this law is targeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Like I said, size for size and I’m comparing my Milwaukee to their Stihl counterparts, and those are top of the line gas. I would maybe have gone Stihl battery, but I already had the Milwaukee batteries from my M18 cordless tools which are drills, grinders, lights, sawzalls, circular saws, and a few more. The cost is mitigated when sticking with an individual battery group as their all interchangeable. I believe commercial size would easily duplicate this. Many of the tools I own are also used by professionals in their trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Phenom said: Like I said, size for size and I’m comparing my Milwaukee to their Stihl counterparts, and those are top of the line gas. I would maybe have gone Stihl battery, but I already had the Milwaukee batteries from my M18 cordless tools which are drills, grinders, lights, sawzalls, circular saws, and a few more. The cost is mitigated when sticking with an individual battery group as their all interchangeable. I believe commercial size would easily duplicate this. Many of the tools I own are also used by professionals in their trades. This is a law that directly effects the middle class. They are the majority that will be having to change because of this law. Class warfare on a different scale. Edited October 11, 2021 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Hmm, maybe because off this Cali situation, Milwaukee will expand into mowers, both push and riding…I wonder what Milwaukee tools stock is trading at…might be a good investment? V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: This is a law that directly effects the middle class. They are the majority that will be having to change because of this law. I’m middle class, single income and transitioning just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 11, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Phenom said: Like I said, size for size and I’m comparing my Milwaukee to their Stihl counterparts, and those are top of the line gas. I would maybe have gone Stihl battery, but I already had the Milwaukee batteries from my M18 cordless tools which are drills, grinders, lights, sawzalls, circular saws, and a few more. The cost is mitigated when sticking with an individual battery group as their all interchangeable. I believe commercial size would easily duplicate this. Many of the tools I own are also used by professionals in their trades. It's not there yet with run time, cost, and durability. Maybe some day, but not anytime in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 11, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, racer254 said: Is the average homeowner the people this law is targeting? I believe so yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Just now, Rigid1 said: It's not there yet with run time, cost, and durability. Maybe some day, but not anytime in the near future Do you actually own and run these Milwaukee tools? I do and also their Stihl counterparts, and the Milwaukee give up nothing and outperform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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