Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 18, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 18, 2022 This could have ended up much worse….just saw this on FB… Well.... today didn't exactly go as planned. Edythe is ok and only has a bruise in her leg thank goodness. Her left spindle broke for no reason while we were hosting out CDS Beginner Ride today. We were on a perfectly groomed trail doing approximately 25 MPH when she said she felt something happened to her front end. She immediately lost control of the sled and it pulled her off the trail into a tree. We are a bit baffled at how this could have happened and the only thing that makes sense is a manufacturing defect in the spindle that simply broke. Edythe is very upset about this as this was her new baby. Let's give her some positive encouragement and vibes to help her through this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Ever sick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 That area of the spindle certainly looks suspect. Hopefully Doo is smart enough to get that one back for further inspection. Can't remember the last time I've seen a spindle break like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Well, you bought a Doo, so..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Missed the first part. Edited December 18, 2022 by Badger** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Yes @Jimmy Snacks very sorry you had to read that on FB Hopefully you don't end up with PTSD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 That's pretty weak looking ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 good luck making them believe it happened before the accident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 It seems the more expensive shit costs, the more it has problems with defective parts. Quality control problems have been around forever with everything, but right now it seems worse than ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 18, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 18, 2022 Wow. Really doesn't even look strong to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 11 hours ago, teamgreen02 said: That area of the spindle certainly looks suspect. Hopefully Doo is smart enough to get that one back for further inspection. Can't remember the last time I've seen a spindle break like that. that one cast or forged? IDK honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 All in the name of saving weight.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 18, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, SkisNH said: All in the name of saving weight.... And dont forgot cool looks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Pic 2 is strange. Looks like an air pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Spindle hole looks elongated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: Pic 2 is strange. Looks like an air pocket. Good observation. Sharp edges not good either. Should have had a rad at top & bottom of bore imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, awful knawful said: Spindle hole looks elongated You're right - it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Also...that is the mountain sled. It could have been bounced off of a couple stumps prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that one cast or forged? IDK honestly. The Doo and Cat ones look forged to me. Castings have too much porosity and wouldn't have the strength. Polaris I think may be using extruded aluminum on some spindles which is probably less expensive and faster to produce. Example of a Polaris forged vs extruded spindle. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I used to see those extruded spindles with a good chunk of them missing and still finish races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that one cast or forged? IDK honestly. Good ? I bought a first year Rev back in 03, and the ball joint that connected the A arm to the spindle was a cast part. Mine failed one day, and shot me right off the trail. Fortunately I wasn't going very fast, so nothing else was damaged. They updated the part with a forged part a year later.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted December 19, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 19, 2022 Which one, forge/extrude/cast is the best technique for the application is SnowMachine spindle?? I would guess extruded but I'm not metal guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Kivalo said: Which one, forge/extrude/cast is the best technique for the application is SnowMachine spindle?? I would guess extruded but I'm not metal guy. Forged would be the strongest but I think it's really about the design possibilities the die brings. Designs can be complex, strong, and still be easy to manufacture. The issue with extrusions is only being able to control material on 2 axis. The third would need to be machined away. Figure $100/hr machining and it adds up quick. Edited December 19, 2022 by teamgreen02 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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