EPA is now allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

[Anler]

1 minute ago, DAVE said:

Ok...so whats the argument here?

Is snot saying asbestos is poisonous other then breathing it in?

He is saying that Trump is selling out the public safety by allowing the re-introduction of asbestos into commercial goods. Which isnt going to happen. So he is just arguing to argue. 

But I learned something today (from slinger) that in the 10 years I have been running this company I have been killing thousands of people with asbestos poisoning! 

[BOHICA]

3 minutes ago, DAVE said:

Ok...so whats the argument here?

Is snot saying asbestos is toxic other then breathing it in?

Yep

[steve from amherst]

4 hours ago, frenchy said:

it was so popular they named a town in QC after it.  

Was it mined in thetford mines , if not what did they mine?

[Angry ginger]

5 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

Was it mined in thetford mines , if not what did they mine?

thetford was asbestos as well.   Asbestos is north of sherbrooke and thetford is 20 or so miles to the east of asbestos

[steve from amherst]

1 minute ago, Angry ginger said:

thetford was asbestos as well.   Asbestos is north of sherbrooke and thetford is 20 or so miles to the east of asbestos

Town still has shitloads of byproduct stacked 60 ft high all over the place.

[steve from amherst]

6 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

thetford was asbestos as well.   Asbestos is north of sherbrooke and thetford is 20 or so miles to the east of asbestos

It would be interesting to compare cancer rates in those towns vs other towns.

[Angry ginger]

1 minute ago, steve from amherst said:

It would be interesting to compare cancer rates in those towns vs other towns.

canadas mesothelioma rates among the highest in the world but analer is right it's the miners and those working directly with it that suffer not the homeowner or business that has it in their building.  i'm sure because of dust kicking up the rates of the gen pop around those mines are slightly higher as well unless you make it airborne it's not going to hurt you but people are sure scared of it. 

 

 

[T1R9sledder]

1 minute ago, Angry ginger said:

canadas mesothelioma rates among the highest in the world but analer is right it's the miners and those working directly with it that suffer not the homeowner or business that has it in their building.  i'm sure because of dust kicking up the rates of the gen pop around those mines are slightly higher as well unless you make it airborne it's not going to hurt you but people are sure scared of it. 

 

 

Yup.....

[Anler]

5 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

canadas mesothelioma rates among the highest in the world but analer is right it's the miners and those working directly with it that suffer not the homeowner or business that has it in their building.  i'm sure because of dust kicking up the rates of the gen pop around those mines are slightly higher as well unless you make it airborne it's not going to hurt you but people are sure scared of it. 

 

That is 100% because of the tort lawyers. Like I said, there are more dangerous things still being used (toxic even) only because companies have underwritten their liability. And new safety standards keep occupational illnesses down. 

[Sal Rosenberg]

45 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

He is saying that Trump is selling out the public safety by allowing the re-introduction of asbestos into commercial goods. Which isnt going to happen. So he is just arguing to argue. 

But I learned something today (from slinger) that in the 10 years I have been running this company I have been killing thousands of people with asbestos poisoning! 

 

BAAHHHH , WHADA YOU KNOW !!! 

[Snoslinger]

53 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

He is saying that Trump is selling out the public safety by allowing the re-introduction of asbestos into commercial goods. Which isnt going to happen. So he is just arguing to argue. 

But I learned something today (from slinger) that in the 10 years I have been running this company I have been killing thousands of people with asbestos poisoning! 

not quite, but kind of. taking enforcement away from the epa, and putting in the hands of corporations isn't a good idea at all, and could lead to some bad things. profits over safety. there was enough evidence to ban it, but now trump and his supposed "protection" agency want to reverse it, along with many other things. 

 

[jtssrx]

1 hour ago, Nazipigdog said:

He is saying that Trump is selling out the public safety by allowing the re-introduction of asbestos into commercial goods. Which isnt going to happen. So he is just arguing to argue. 

But I learned something today (from slinger) that in the 10 years I have been running this company I have been killing thousands of people with asbestos poisoning! 

Slinger is MC 2.0

[frenchy]

55 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

Town still has shitloads of byproduct stacked 60 ft high all over the place.

Apparently magnesium is a byproduct of the tailings. They are trying to raise funds to start producing it there. 

[Ez ryder]

15 hours ago, Mainecat said:

FUCK TRUMP....

EPA is now allowing asbestos back into manufacturing Source: The Architect's Newspaper One of the most dangerous construction-related carcinogens is now legally allowed back into U.S. manufacturing under a new rule by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). On June 1, the EPA authorized a “SNUR” (Significant New Use Rule) which allows new products containing asbestos to be created on a case-by-case basis.  According to environmental advocates, this new rule gives chemical companies the upper hand in creating new uses for such harmful products in the United States. In May, the EPA released a report detailing its new framework for evaluating the risk of its top prioritized substances. The report states that the agency will no longer consider the effect or presence of substances in the air, ground, or water in its risk assessments.  This news comes after the EPA reviewed its first batch of 10 chemicals under the 2016 amendment to the 1976 Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), which required the agency to continually reevaluate hundreds of potentially toxic chemicals to see whether they should face new restrictions or be removed from the market. The SNUR greenlights companies to use toxic chemicals like asbestos without thinking about how it will endanger people who are indirectly in contact with it.  Asbestos, once seen as a magical mineral, was widely used in building insulation up until it was banned in most countries in the 1970s. The U.S. is one of the only developed nations in the world that has placed significant restrictions on the substance without banning it completely. New data revealed that asbestos-related deaths now total nearly 40,000 annually, with lung cancer and mesothelioma being the most common illnesses in association with the toxin. That number could rise if new asbestos-containing products make their way into brand new buildings.  Read more: https://archpaper.com/2018/08/epa-asbestos-manufacturing/

they have never stopped using it .  why is your thong getting all wadded up ? 

[Mainecat]

Russia is the worlds largest producer of asbestos.......fuck,the commie cocksuckers.

[JEFF]

2 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Russia is the worlds largest producer of asbestos.......fuck,the commie cocksuckers.

With the amount of flaming shit you keep throwing around in here I think you need some asbestos diapers... 🔥

[Mainecat]

31 minutes ago, JEFF said:

With the amount of flaming shit you keep throwing around in here I think you need some asbestos diapers... 🔥

Putin is now charging our environmental laws? Your ok with this?

Edited August 9, 2018 by Mainecat

[JEFF]

15 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Putin is now charging our environmental laws? Your you're ok with this?

Actually if you weren't such an emotional bitch you could read for your very own self on your favorite news site that putin is doing no such thing. 

 

EPA says it's strengthening asbestos regulation, not gutting it

By Gregory Wallace and Sara Ganim, CNN

 

Updated 4:14 PM ET, Wed August 8, 2018

 

 

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 24: A stop sign stands outside the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) building on May 24, 2013 in Washington, DC. The EPA is one of at least four federal agencies that is closed today due to the automatic sequestration cuts forced government agencies giving employee's an unpaid furlough. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

(CNN)The Environmental Protection Agency says that, contrary to recent reports, it is moving to close a loophole on asbestos, rather than expand the ways the deadly chemical can be used.

An agency official pointed to two asbestos-related policy announcements made by the agency this summer -- including a rarely-used process called "significant new use rule," or SNUR -- and said they create "a regulatory backstop where none has existed before."

"The SNUR is really a good news story for public health protection," said Nancy Beck, a scientist and the deputy assistant administrator for EPA's chemical program.

Critics of the agency's move say it could have done more, including an outright ban on the use and importation of asbestos.

Beck's comments to CNN followed a series of reports -- including in a business news publication and an architectural trade newspaper -- that the agency was weakening protections on the chemical and was opening up a process for taking applications to use asbestos in more than a dozen ways, such as adhesive, roofing material and floor tile.

While the proposed rule does create that process, Beck pointed out those uses are currently legal -- meaning the regulation actually will restrict the allowable uses of asbestos.

Asbestos occurs naturally, and miners extract its long fibers that have been used to strengthen cement, filter chemicals like chlorine and hold together materials like insulation. Exposure and inhalation is linked to mesothelioma and other cancers. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data from 2017 shows around 3,000 people die annually of mesothelioma.

EPA regulation of asbestos dates back to a 1970s chemical law and a series of regulations crafted by the agency and other governmental bodies. In 1989, EPA recognized the health hazards and largely banned asbestos, but grandfathered in ways the chemical was still being used at the time. That ban was largely overturned by a federal court. Over the last 30 years, industries -- seeing cancer deaths and the lawsuits that ensued -- largely phased asbestos out of their manufacturing and products.

A 2016 amendment to the 1970s chemical law required the EPA to periodically review chemicals and their hazards, and gave the agency new authority to restrict or ban chemicals. Agency officials then looked at the grandfathered exceptions, determined which are no longer in use and worked to close the loophole, Beck said.

"None of these uses are banned today ... but nothing prevents them from coming back to market," she said, explaining why the EPA took action.

Betsy Southerland, a former EPA scientist who resigned over the Trump administration's leadership of the agency, said the rule was intended to be broader when the bipartisan legislation was crafted during the Obama administration.

"The original plan for the asbestos significant new use rule was for the rule to list the known ongoing uses of asbestos and then state that any other use an industry might want to initiate in the future" would require EPA review, she told CNN.

She said an "open ended" approach would better protect people, because "there is no way EPA can claim to know today every possible new use industry might want in the future."

The Environmental Working Group, which supports a full ban on asbestos, said the agency is not performing a strong enough assessment of the chemical's hazards.

"We're very concerned that EPA is taking a lot of shortcuts in that risk evaluation," said Melanie Benesh, a legislative attorney who works on toxic chemical issues at EWG.

"There is lots of asbestos still out in the environment, particularly in older homes and schools," she said, and the agency's assessment processes does not take into account those legacy uses.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/politics/epa-asbestos-regulation/index.html

[Mainecat]

2 hours ago, JEFF said:

Actually if you weren't such an emotional bitch you could read for your very own self on your favorite news site that putin is doing no such thing. 

 

EPA says it's strengthening asbestos regulation, not gutting it

By Gregory Wallace and Sara Ganim, CNN

 

Updated 4:14 PM ET, Wed August 8, 2018

 

 

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 24: A stop sign stands outside the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) building on May 24, 2013 in Washington, DC. The EPA is one of at least four federal agencies that is closed today due to the automatic sequestration cuts forced government agencies giving employee's an unpaid furlough. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

(CNN)The Environmental Protection Agency says that, contrary to recent reports, it is moving to close a loophole on asbestos, rather than expand the ways the deadly chemical can be used.

An agency official pointed to two asbestos-related policy announcements made by the agency this summer -- including a rarely-used process called "significant new use rule," or SNUR -- and said they create "a regulatory backstop where none has existed before."

"The SNUR is really a good news story for public health protection," said Nancy Beck, a scientist and the deputy assistant administrator for EPA's chemical program.

Critics of the agency's move say it could have done more, including an outright ban on the use and importation of asbestos.

Beck's comments to CNN followed a series of reports -- including in a business news publication and an architectural trade newspaper -- that the agency was weakening protections on the chemical and was opening up a process for taking applications to use asbestos in more than a dozen ways, such as adhesive, roofing material and floor tile.

While the proposed rule does create that process, Beck pointed out those uses are currently legal -- meaning the regulation actually will restrict the allowable uses of asbestos.

Asbestos occurs naturally, and miners extract its long fibers that have been used to strengthen cement, filter chemicals like chlorine and hold together materials like insulation. Exposure and inhalation is linked to mesothelioma and other cancers. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data from 2017 shows around 3,000 people die annually of mesothelioma.

EPA regulation of asbestos dates back to a 1970s chemical law and a series of regulations crafted by the agency and other governmental bodies. In 1989, EPA recognized the health hazards and largely banned asbestos, but grandfathered in ways the chemical was still being used at the time. That ban was largely overturned by a federal court. Over the last 30 years, industries -- seeing cancer deaths and the lawsuits that ensued -- largely phased asbestos out of their manufacturing and products.

A 2016 amendment to the 1970s chemical law required the EPA to periodically review chemicals and their hazards, and gave the agency new authority to restrict or ban chemicals. Agency officials then looked at the grandfathered exceptions, determined which are no longer in use and worked to close the loophole, Beck said.

"None of these uses are banned today ... but nothing prevents them from coming back to market," she said, explaining why the EPA took action.

Betsy Southerland, a former EPA scientist who resigned over the Trump administration's leadership of the agency, said the rule was intended to be broader when the bipartisan legislation was crafted during the Obama administration.

"The original plan for the asbestos significant new use rule was for the rule to list the known ongoing uses of asbestos and then state that any other use an industry might want to initiate in the future" would require EPA review, she told CNN.

She said an "open ended" approach would better protect people, because "there is no way EPA can claim to know today every possible new use industry might want in the future."

The Environmental Working Group, which supports a full ban on asbestos, said the agency is not performing a strong enough assessment of the chemical's hazards.

"We're very concerned that EPA is taking a lot of shortcuts in that risk evaluation," said Melanie Benesh, a legislative attorney who works on toxic chemical issues at EWG.

"There is lots of asbestos still out in the environment, particularly in older homes and schools," she said, and the agency's assessment processes does not take into account those legacy uses.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/politics/epa-asbestos-regulation/index.html

Lol the EPA?

[Ez ryder]

9 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Lol the EPA?

so now after some one points out what a hack you are you from your own artical you mock the institution you were just championing for .

wow it is getting bad .I hope you bought the long term care  insurance shit is expensive . we are paying 9800 a mo . did you save enough or just plan king on letting the government pay the bill like a good little liberal cunt 

[Anler]

They keep calling it a chemical. It's not a chemical. 

[Skidooski]

@Mainecat you're such a spaz! Everything is Russia!!!

[Edmo]

6 hours ago, Nazipigdog said:

They keep calling it a chemical. It's not a chemical. 

“Deadly chemical”. Lies and misrepresentation to prop up the latest boogieman. This is what we call journalism today.  

[Zambroski]

7 minutes ago, Edmo said:

“Deadly chemical”. Lies and misrepresentation to prop up the latest boogieman. This is what we call journalism today.  

Yep.  "News and information" is what they can get anybody to fall for now.  Luckily, this nation is full of half-witted "intellectual elitists" trained to believe their "feels" translates into knowledge.

[f7ben]

The government lied for decades about teflon causing cancer......but slinger wants the government to protect him this time. They won't lie for sure