More war propaganda

[racer254]

Putin Putin Putin, Russia Russia Russia.  Every day on the typical left wing media sources.

 

[irv]

1 minute ago, racer254 said:

Putin Putin Putin, Russia Russia Russia.  Every day on the typical left wing media sources.

 

It's a convenient distraction to what's really going on in your country and mine. 

[racer254]

4 minutes ago, irv said:

It's a convenient distraction to what's really going on in your country and mine. 

Yep, and it just so happens that the UN is meeting this week.  Convenient

[XCR1250]

Russia partners like China and India expressing concerns over Ukraine may have forced Putin's hand and driven him to try and end the war quickly, Russia scholar says

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Kelsey Vlamis

Thu, September 22, 2022 at 7:46 PM

 

 

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  Vladimir Putin

  President of Russia
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  Narendra Modi

  Prime Minister of India since 2014

 

 

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi pose for a photo shaking hands prior to their talks on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit in Samarkand, Uzbekistan, Friday, Sept. 16, 2022.Alexandr Demyanchuk, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo/Associated Press More

• Some of Putin's global partners expressed concerns about his war in Ukraine last week.

• Days later, Putin escalated the war by announcing military mobilization and threatening nuclear warfare.

• A Russia expert told Insider Putin may have acted out of fear of straining relationships with nations like China and India.

Russian President Vladimir Putin escalated his unprovoked war on Ukraine this week, just days after some of his supposed partners publicly expressed doubt over it — and the events may well be related.

Since invading Ukraine in February, Russia has been shunned by much of the world and faced crippling sanctions from the West. But as Russia grew more isolated, some nations have either stood by Putin or avoided directly condemning him.

Both China and India have been powerful partners of Russia throughout the war, declining to institute sanctions and continuing to purchase the country's energy products. However, leaders of both countries recently took the rare step of speaking against the war.

During a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Uzbekistan on September 15, Putin acknowledged Xi had "questions and concerns" regarding the war. The following day, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi criticized the war during a face-to-face meeting with Putin.

"I know that today's era is not an era of war, and I have spoken to you on the phone about this," Modi told Putin, Reuters reported.

Putin responded: "I know about your position on the conflict in Ukraine, and I know about your concerns. We want all of this to end as soon as possible."

Less than a week later, on Wednesday, Putin said he was calling up 300,000 reservists to join the fight, something he had avoided doing for fear of backlash among the Russian people. The announcement, in which he also threatened to use nuclear weapons, came after the Ukrainian military made major gains in recent weeks.

Experts told Insider it would be weeks or months before the mobilized troops are trained, equipped, and deployed. They also said Putin's decision to take this step now showed how poorly the war was going for Russia and how desperate the Russian leader was to turn the tide.

"That Putin would do this shows how badly he feels the need right now to change the momentum, which has been all in Ukraine's favor," Daniel Treisman, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose work focuses on Russian politics and economics, told Insider.

In addition to fearing another potential counteroffensive by Ukraine, Putin was likely also driven by Xi's and Modi's concerns — and his fear of losing key partners — according to Robert English, a professor at the University of Southern California who studies Russia, the Soviet Union, and Eastern Europe.

"The evidence of criticism of allies like China or neutral states like India clearly put more pressure on him," English told Insider. He added that leaders of those nations seem to have told Putin they did not approve of the situation in Ukraine because it was harming their reputations on the world stage and costing them economically and politically.

English said what he suspects Putin heard was: "'Find some way to settle this quick, to wind this war down, because we will not remain at your side for another six months of this brutality.'"

"He heard a message like that, so he's trying to up the ante," English said. "He's trying to change the military balance the best way he can."

If Putin has mobilized troops in an effort to end the war as quickly as possible, as he assured Modi he would seek to do, it's not at all clear if it will be successful.

"It's an unsatisfactory and inadequate response to the motivation, manpower, and materiel on the Ukrainian side," English said, explaining that military aide and intelligence from the West has given Ukraine an advantage on the battlefield. "It's not going to do the job."

Read the original article on Business Insider

[spin_dry]

13 minutes ago, irv said:

It's a convenient distraction to what's really going on in your country and mine. 

Like the power of an ex president’s thoughts? 

[Mainecat]

10 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Like the power of an ex president’s thoughts? 

Or a president who stole top secret documents?

[DriftBusta]

18 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Like the power of an ex president’s thoughts? 

Or an utterly corrupt government and media who bombards the cybersphere with one hit piece after another.  It sure sucked you in.   

[01mxz800]

4 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Or a president who stole top secret documents?

Channeling my inner bhen "kill yourself "

[Skidooski]

"Putin", "war" and "Russia" in the beginning of the thread and these cucks still have to drag Trump into it   

[Mag6240]

Just now, Skidooski said:

"Putin", "war" and "Russia" in the beginning of the thread and these cucks still have to drag Trump into it   

Wouldn't the media in this country go into full on "What the hell are we going to push our agenda with" if Trump silently just went away?  We know that's what they want, but their profits would disappear in a New York second because there would be NOTHING to talk about except what is going on with the things they don't want to talk about.

[Skidooski]

4 minutes ago, Mag6240 said:

Wouldn't the media in this country go into full on "What the hell are we going to push our agenda with" if Trump silently just went away?  We know that's what they want, but their profits would disappear in a New York second because there would be NOTHING to talk about except what is going on with the things they don't want to talk about.

It took them a loooong time to give up talking about Palin 24/7 and she only ran for VP. It will take a lifetime for them to give up talking Trump since they are so vested in it...... kind of like addicts. They certainly can't talk about their own POTUS and VP. I mean they can but everyone knows it's all bullshit so they hardly bother trying

[Anler]

7 hours ago, XCR1250 said:

Russia partners like China and India expressing concerns over Ukraine may have forced Putin's hand and driven him to try and end the war quickly, Russia scholar says

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Kelsey Vlamis

Thu, September 22, 2022 at 7:46 PM

 

 

In this article:

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  Vladimir Putin

  President of Russia
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  Narendra Modi

  Prime Minister of India since 2014

 

 

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi pose for a photo shaking hands prior to their talks on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit in Samarkand, Uzbekistan, Friday, Sept. 16, 2022.Alexandr Demyanchuk, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo/Associated Press More

• Some of Putin's global partners expressed concerns about his war in Ukraine last week.

• Days later, Putin escalated the war by announcing military mobilization and threatening nuclear warfare.

• A Russia expert told Insider Putin may have acted out of fear of straining relationships with nations like China and India.

Russian President Vladimir Putin escalated his unprovoked war on Ukraine this week, just days after some of his supposed partners publicly expressed doubt over it — and the events may well be related.

Since invading Ukraine in February, Russia has been shunned by much of the world and faced crippling sanctions from the West. But as Russia grew more isolated, some nations have either stood by Putin or avoided directly condemning him.

Both China and India have been powerful partners of Russia throughout the war, declining to institute sanctions and continuing to purchase the country's energy products. However, leaders of both countries recently took the rare step of speaking against the war.

During a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Uzbekistan on September 15, Putin acknowledged Xi had "questions and concerns" regarding the war. The following day, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi criticized the war during a face-to-face meeting with Putin.

"I know that today's era is not an era of war, and I have spoken to you on the phone about this," Modi told Putin, Reuters reported.

Putin responded: "I know about your position on the conflict in Ukraine, and I know about your concerns. We want all of this to end as soon as possible."

Less than a week later, on Wednesday, Putin said he was calling up 300,000 reservists to join the fight, something he had avoided doing for fear of backlash among the Russian people. The announcement, in which he also threatened to use nuclear weapons, came after the Ukrainian military made major gains in recent weeks.

Experts told Insider it would be weeks or months before the mobilized troops are trained, equipped, and deployed. They also said Putin's decision to take this step now showed how poorly the war was going for Russia and how desperate the Russian leader was to turn the tide.

"That Putin would do this shows how badly he feels the need right now to change the momentum, which has been all in Ukraine's favor," Daniel Treisman, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose work focuses on Russian politics and economics, told Insider.

In addition to fearing another potential counteroffensive by Ukraine, Putin was likely also driven by Xi's and Modi's concerns — and his fear of losing key partners — according to Robert English, a professor at the University of Southern California who studies Russia, the Soviet Union, and Eastern Europe.

"The evidence of criticism of allies like China or neutral states like India clearly put more pressure on him," English told Insider. He added that leaders of those nations seem to have told Putin they did not approve of the situation in Ukraine because it was harming their reputations on the world stage and costing them economically and politically.

English said what he suspects Putin heard was: "'Find some way to settle this quick, to wind this war down, because we will not remain at your side for another six months of this brutality.'"

"He heard a message like that, so he's trying to up the ante," English said. "He's trying to change the military balance the best way he can."

If Putin has mobilized troops in an effort to end the war as quickly as possible, as he assured Modi he would seek to do, it's not at all clear if it will be successful.

"It's an unsatisfactory and inadequate response to the motivation, manpower, and materiel on the Ukrainian side," English said, explaining that military aide and intelligence from the West has given Ukraine an advantage on the battlefield. "It's not going to do the job."

Read the original article on Business Insider

Ukraine could end the war anytime they wanted to. Just give Donbass and Crimea their autonomy. would save them a bunch of money on bombs. 

[DriftBusta]

2 minutes ago, Anler said:

Ukraine could end the war anytime they wanted to. Just give Donbass and Crimea their autonomy. would save them a bunch of money on bombs. 

No, no, must beat the war drums.  The campaign contributors need their vig!   

[Roosting]

So biden has secret back-channel communications with guess who? russia 

Sounds dirty just like spins underwear 

[spin_dry]

1 hour ago, Anler said:

Ukraine could end the war anytime they wanted to. Just give Donbass and Crimea their autonomy. would save them a bunch of money on bombs. 

Translation: give the tyrant their natural resources and Black Sea ports. That ain’t going to happen, because it shouldn’t. 

[Anler]

17 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Translation: give the tyrant their natural resources and Black Sea ports. That ain’t going to happen, because it shouldn’t. 

Its going to happen

[spin_dry]

5 minutes ago, Anler said:

Its going to happen

300,000 belligerent conscripts taken from prisons and protest rallies. They’ll just be more starving targets for the Ukrainians. 

[Anler]

1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

300,000 belligerent conscripts taken from prisons and protest rallies. They’ll just be more starving targets for the Ukrainians. 

Nostrovia!

[spin_dry]

1 minute ago, Anler said:

Nostrovia!

He doesn’t have the supply lines to feed and arm his troops now. Adding 300,000 untrained retards will be entertaining. Xi is just shaking his head right now. 

[Ez ryder]

20 hours ago, racer254 said:

Putin Putin Putin, Russia Russia Russia.  Every day on the typical left wing media sources.

 

Got to have some sort of bouncing ball to distract from the big guy 

[steve from amherst]

13 hours ago, Anler said:

Ukraine could end the war anytime they wanted to. Just give Donbass and Crimea their autonomy. would save us a bunch of money on bombs. 

fixed it for ya

[Sleepr2]

On 9/23/2022 at 7:40 AM, Mainecat said:

Or a president who stole top secret documents?

Your selective outrage is typical of the intellectually bankrupt 

[spin_dry]

On 9/23/2022 at 7:26 AM, XCR1250 said:

Russia partners like China and India expressing concerns over Ukraine may have forced Putin's hand and driven him to try and end the war quickly, Russia scholar says

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Kelsey Vlamis

Thu, September 22, 2022 at 7:46 PM

 

 

In this article:

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  Vladimir Putin

  President of Russia
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  Narendra Modi

  Prime Minister of India since 2014

 

 

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi pose for a photo shaking hands prior to their talks on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit in Samarkand, Uzbekistan, Friday, Sept. 16, 2022.Alexandr Demyanchuk, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo/Associated Press More

• Some of Putin's global partners expressed concerns about his war in Ukraine last week.

• Days later, Putin escalated the war by announcing military mobilization and threatening nuclear warfare.

• A Russia expert told Insider Putin may have acted out of fear of straining relationships with nations like China and India.

Russian President Vladimir Putin escalated his unprovoked war on Ukraine this week, just days after some of his supposed partners publicly expressed doubt over it — and the events may well be related.

Since invading Ukraine in February, Russia has been shunned by much of the world and faced crippling sanctions from the West. But as Russia grew more isolated, some nations have either stood by Putin or avoided directly condemning him.

Both China and India have been powerful partners of Russia throughout the war, declining to institute sanctions and continuing to purchase the country's energy products. However, leaders of both countries recently took the rare step of speaking against the war.

During a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Uzbekistan on September 15, Putin acknowledged Xi had "questions and concerns" regarding the war. The following day, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi criticized the war during a face-to-face meeting with Putin.

"I know that today's era is not an era of war, and I have spoken to you on the phone about this," Modi told Putin, Reuters reported.

Putin responded: "I know about your position on the conflict in Ukraine, and I know about your concerns. We want all of this to end as soon as possible."

Less than a week later, on Wednesday, Putin said he was calling up 300,000 reservists to join the fight, something he had avoided doing for fear of backlash among the Russian people. The announcement, in which he also threatened to use nuclear weapons, came after the Ukrainian military made major gains in recent weeks.

Experts told Insider it would be weeks or months before the mobilized troops are trained, equipped, and deployed. They also said Putin's decision to take this step now showed how poorly the war was going for Russia and how desperate the Russian leader was to turn the tide.

"That Putin would do this shows how badly he feels the need right now to change the momentum, which has been all in Ukraine's favor," Daniel Treisman, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose work focuses on Russian politics and economics, told Insider.

In addition to fearing another potential counteroffensive by Ukraine, Putin was likely also driven by Xi's and Modi's concerns — and his fear of losing key partners — according to Robert English, a professor at the University of Southern California who studies Russia, the Soviet Union, and Eastern Europe.

"The evidence of criticism of allies like China or neutral states like India clearly put more pressure on him," English told Insider. He added that leaders of those nations seem to have told Putin they did not approve of the situation in Ukraine because it was harming their reputations on the world stage and costing them economically and politically.

English said what he suspects Putin heard was: "'Find some way to settle this quick, to wind this war down, because we will not remain at your side for another six months of this brutality.'"

"He heard a message like that, so he's trying to up the ante," English said. "He's trying to change the military balance the best way he can."

If Putin has mobilized troops in an effort to end the war as quickly as possible, as he assured Modi he would seek to do, it's not at all clear if it will be successful.

"It's an unsatisfactory and inadequate response to the motivation, manpower, and materiel on the Ukrainian side," English said, explaining that military aide and intelligence from the West has given Ukraine an advantage on the battlefield. "It's not going to do the job."

Read the original article on Business Insider

It didn’t go well at the UN Security Council for Russia yesterday. Both china and India turned on them. The Russian delegation walked out.  

Edited September 24, 2022 by spin_dry

[Anler]

I listened to most of videos speech to the un condemning Putin's actions in Ukraine. Does he not remember being around when the US and it's allies spent over $20 trillion dollars wreaking havoc across the middle east, eastern Europe and south America? 

The best thing he could do for humanity is take himself and all of his colleagues and go away forever. 

[Rod]

On 9/23/2022 at 7:15 AM, irv said:

It's a convenient distraction to what's really going on in your country and mine. 

Not even really a distraction for them. They need to keep the left convinced that they need to keep supporting Biden’s grift