Phenom Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Pffftttt….I’m good here and maybe use your head for a second and think about why that shit is being left behind and why we agreed to let the Taliban run the country. You make a good point there jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Phenom said: Quite right. To maintain authority and control they will need help. Mostly money and weapons. Who will give that to them to keep radical terrorist entities at bay??? I bet it will be US. Think about it, the Afgans we trained folded like a deck of cards. The Taliban is quite formidable. Why not pay them to be our ground troops fighting our mutual enemy, predominantly ISIS-K You could be right. The Bush administration gave the taliban $45 million in 2001. Shortly before 9/11. Once again, america funded tomorrow’s enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Was what was left behind left for the Afghan armed forces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Oh STFU racer.🤣 You also don’t sign peace deals with terrorists and release 5000 of them back onto the battlefield but you haven’t said shit about that one. Still can't get off that false equivalence can ya.... 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Pffftttt….I’m good here and maybe use your head for a second and think about why that shit is being left behind and why we agreed to let the Taliban run the country. you....of all people telling others to use their head. Likely the most kneejerk reactionary guy on this board...yeah ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 The Taliban got a real bad rap for their treat of women and harboring Al-Qaeda. They were thought to be easily exterminated so we went to war in Afghanistan. But remember who perpetrated 9/11, it’s was Saudi radicals. And where did we find Bin Laden? In Pakistan living in a Pakistani military community… The Taliban chose the wrong side 20 years ago and were made very miserable for 20 years. Hopefully they learned something. If not, there will be a US carrier group just to the south in the Indian Ocean able to bring hell’s fury upon them again. Imagine the Taliban Supreme Leader sitting at his desk in the Capitol and wondering if a cruise missal will soon be coming through his window for choosing wrongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: There were still French colonials in Vietnam when America pulled out. Fucking stupid American/European wars throughout history have left fragments everywhere. Insane. Dumb wars resulting in dumb results. Play stupid games….. It’s simple, go to win….and in quick fashion or, don’t go at all. “Hearts and minds” is idiocy. And so is getting used to all the young men and women without limbs and other serious injuries. Thanks DC…yet again. 3 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Getting out is good. Leaving with a humiliating defeat ...not good. Could have been easily avoided also. There is no such thing as leaving in defeat without humiliation. I don’t know when or if we are going to stop fucking around with these shitty Muslim countries. I’d sure like to think this is it but, I don’t think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Great job JOE VIDEO-2021-08-19-00-15-57 (1).mp4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ez ryder Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 9 hours ago, 01mxz800 said: Worse administration in American history......but no more mean tweets Yes my feelings are intact and that is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 6 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Humiliating defeat Like there was any possible way of winning anything there. And what was there to win? Fucking rocks? Just leave with our equipment & people. Not a win...but not a major loss either. 5 hours ago, Angry ginger said: it's how we have left almost every conflict since the middle of the 20th century Korea- fail Vietnam- fail Somalia- fail Iraq- Fail Afghanistan- fail Damn...the sad truth right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted August 26, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 26, 2021 13 hours ago, 1jkw said: Was what was left behind left for the Afghan armed forces? yes, then captured by the taliban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 11 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Just leave with our equipment & people. Not a win...but not a major loss either. Damn...the sad truth right there. I'd say that the entire 20 year operation was a major loss, regardless of the botched pull out game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted August 26, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: I'd say that the entire 20 year operation was a major loss, regardless of the botched pull out game. It sure put the exclamation point on it all though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 26, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 hours ago, steve from amherst said: yes, then captured by the taliban Exactly and that is solely on Bidens head how again? There is 20 years worth of blame to go around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Exactly and that is solely on Bidens head how again? There is 20 years worth of blame to go around. Sure there is 20 years worth of blame no doubt, but this particular part is solely on BIDEN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Exactly and that is solely on Bidens head how again? There is 20 years worth of blame to go around. Stfu retard ...my gosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 26, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 26, 2021 Way to go Joe!! Video appears to show Taliban operating Black Hawk helicopter https://www.foxnews.com/world/video-taliban-taxiing-black-hawk-helicopter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Rigid1 said: Way to go Joe!! Video appears to show Taliban operating Black Hawk helicopter https://www.foxnews.com/world/video-taliban-taxiing-black-hawk-helicopter Who here voted for biden, stand up, be proud that you helped to support the taliban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Is this claimed $85 billion of military equipment from the same source that said 80,000 Americans were trapped in Afghanistan? Just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 50 minutes ago, racer254 said: Who here voted for biden, stand up, be proud that you helped to support the taliban. I did and I also support a taliban that is willing to adjust their behavior and join the modern world and is willing to fight on the ground in Afghanistan against our common enemy, that being radical al-Qaeda and ISIS-K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Phenom said: I did and I also support a taliban that is willing to adjust their behavior and join the modern world and is willing to fight on the ground in Afghanistan against our common enemy, that being radical al-Qaeda and ISIS-K What do you support about their way of life? Do you believe that they will make great use of your taxpayer dollars? Why is it that we always leave our military equipment? Why is it that the democrats who voted for biden want more strict gun laws in the US yet are willing to leave 600,000 small arms and ammo for our enemies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: What do you support about their way of life? Do you believe that they will make great use of your taxpayer dollars? Why is it that we always leave our military equipment? Why is it that the democrats who voted for biden want more strict gun laws in the US yet are willing to leave 600,000 small arms and ammo for our enemies? All nice talking points, but I never said I was a Democrat. I am an independent and have my own mind. I don’t agree with any politician 100% and do not March in lock step with any one of them. I pick and choose among realistic agendas. And on one last personal note. My gun collection has a lot of my republican friends green with envy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Phenom said: All nice talking points, but I never said I was a Democrat. I am an independent and have my own mind. I don’t agree with any politician 100% and do not March in lock step with any one of them. I pick and choose among realistic agendas. And on one last personal note. My gun collection has a lot of my republican friends green with envy. You said you supported a taliban. Sorry, I don't but I was wondering why you do? Also, you voted for a democrat with 47 years in washington, not sure how you can claim to be an independent and do that. Edited August 26, 2021 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, racer254 said: You said you supported a taliban. Sorry, I don't but I was wondering why you do? Also, you voted for a democrat with 47 years in washington, not sure how you can claim to be an independent and do that. MCLiar also claims to be an independent….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 26, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Is this claimed $85 billion of military equipment from the same source that said 80,000 Americans were trapped in Afghanistan? Just wondering. It's from the same source that counts covid statistics......,........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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