J. Jackson Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) One of my sons has a woody for a Sidewinder. He has found an 18 tuned to up to 300hp allegedly. Lots of aftermarket bracing as well as rails. 280 hp on 91 sounds optimistic but I really don't know much about them. Any honest opinions from those that have actually owned one or a Cat would be welcomed. Edited October 2, 2020 by J. Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Had a stock 2014 Viper. Loved it. No Winder or T-Cat though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 moe (snake) has one I believe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) I believe Highmark has a Sidewinder SRX also. Edited October 2, 2020 by snoughnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 and honest opinion - I wouldn't touch a molested one with a 10 foot pole. Some fucking Bhen self proclaimed tuning genius performing mad science on it then pawning it off as the fasted abomination known to man. 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 2, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 What's the guy want for it? Who's tune is in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, frenchy said: and honest opinion - I wouldn't touch a molested one with a 10 foot pole. Some fucking Bhen self proclaimed tuning genius performing mad science on it then pawning it off as the fasted abomination known to man. True story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: True story When I was selling the Viper, I had to laugh as I'd get messages telling them me they could buy a turbo'ed or supercharged Viper for the same price as my stock machine. I'd tell them go ahead. That winter, at least 3 of the those people were pissing and moaning on the Viper FB group about the issues they were having with their sleds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: What's the guy want for it? Who's tune is in it? 10G's and a TD tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 2, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: 10G's and a TD tune Ehhhh, 8k max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Ehhhh, 8k max and in reality any aftermarket BS is worth 10 cents on the dollar on the resale market unless you part it out and sell it piece by piece 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 I've told him to run away from it. Lots of fun and all but he thinks it's a plug and play and no worries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: I've told him to run away from it. Lots of fun and all but he thinks it's a plug and play and no worries. That's the kind of mindset that's hard to break. Don't ask me how I know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 49 minutes ago, frenchy said: and honest opinion - I wouldn't touch a molested one with a 10 foot pole. Some fucking Bhen self proclaimed tuning genius performing mad science on it then pawning it off as the fasted abomination known to man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 My buddy’s boosted turbos have been real dependable. 280 hp is not that crazy for the cat/Yam. But they were put together by a guy that knows his stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowder Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I can’t say that I’d be that afraid of buying a tuned winder or Cat Turbo depending on some factors and what else has been monkeyed along with a good going over. I went back to an 800 2-smoke but still miss the Turbo a lot. I don’t miss the weight but holding the flipper on a new 800 is not very exciting after riding boosted Turbos on the lakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, frenchy said: and honest opinion - I wouldn't touch a molested one with a 10 foot pole. Some fucking Bhen self proclaimed tuning genius performing mad science on it then pawning it off as the fasted abomination known to man. Yup. I’d buy a stock one and go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I hear they’re wicked titty fast. If I get the weight penalty of a 4 stroke I’d want the fastest one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 hours ago, ACE said: I hear they’re wicked titty fast. If I get the weight penalty of a 4 stroke I’d want the fastest one A buddy of mine had one and said they just keep on pulling. Not sure what speed he got up to but he said when you expect it to start nosing over/running out of power, it just keeps going and going. He liked the sled a lot but he updates every 2 yrs so he is now on a big horse Cat but I'm not sure which model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 With a winning Lottery ticket there'd be an SRX in the stable immediately with the simple tune and more boost, nothing crazy. I'd have to know who did the work to buy 1 already wrenched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 hours ago, ACE said: I hear they’re wicked titty fast. If I get the weight penalty of a 4 stroke I’d want the fastest one WIcked titty fast for sure. Stock would fine for me and perfect for Quebec, New Brunswick or the county saddlebaggers here in the Northeast. An off trailer and one of those would be the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 2, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 300hp on stock clutching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Skidooski said: 300hp on stock clutching? As long as the flywheel is tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 2, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, J. Jackson said: One of my sons has a woody for a Sidewinder. He has found an 18 tuned to up to 300hp allegedly. Lots of aftermarket bracing as well as rails. 280 hp on 91 sounds optimistic but I really don't know much about them. Any honest opinions from those that have actually owned one or a Cat would be welcomed. I have one (2018) and love it. Very trailable and extraordinarily fast and fun. Simple set up for trail was soft spring setting up front and use stiffer dial setting. Stiff in the middle helps take a bit of weight off the skis. I'm a pretty big guy and I still have it set pretty soft in the rear without bottoming out much. Again helps with weight transfer. Coupler blocks to most transfer setting. Not for the inexperienced. I'm an acceleration guy so I don't spend much time at top speed. It is amazing how hard they will pull even at 100 mph. If you want to get the full benefits of the power you really need to stud the shit out of it. Aftermarket stiffer center spring is suppose to help there as well. The couple 129 and 137 doesn't weight transfer great. The 141 uncoupled does. I run Hurricane 300 tune with 3 bar map, CAI and Sandale 3". Got my own clutching done. Last year ran STM primary and Secondary after I torched the primary and it took out the secondary. Putting on a TAPP primary this year for the trails and keeping the STM oversized secondary. Its fun toying with the 800's and 850's. Its cute when they line up next to you. First year I had mine a bunch of buddies and I were running on the river and I had my wife sitting in front of me. She would just waive at them as we went screaming by with the ski's a foot in the air after letting them get a head start. Yes I know they should be much faster but its still fun. Main reliability issue is the upper gear bushing. Change every 1500-2000 miles. Edited October 2, 2020 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 12 hours ago, frenchy said: and in reality any aftermarket BS is worth 10 cents on the dollar on the resale market unless you part it out and sell it piece by piece I would never buy a sled that had been modified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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