Mainecat Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 An MRI scan costs $1,420 in America. It runs $450 in the UK. Bernie Sanders ✔@SenSanders An MRI scan costs $1,420 in America. It runs $450 in the UK. A U.S. angioplasty costs $32,200. In the Netherlands, it's $6,400. Other major countries cover all their people and pay half of what we do. Don't tell me we can't afford Medicare for All. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/upshot/expensive-health-care-world-comparison.html … In the U.S., an Angioplasty Costs $32,000. Elsewhere? Maybe $6,400. A study of international prices finds American patients pay much more across a wide array of common services. nytimes.com 7,12:04 PM - Dec 27, 2019 The International Federation of Health Plans, a group representing the C.E.O.s of health insurers worldwide, publishes a guide every few years on the international cost for common medical services. Its newest report, on 2017 prices, came out this month. Every time, the upshot is vivid and similar: For almost everything on the list, there is a large divergence between the United States and everyone else. Patients and insurance companies in the United States pay higher prices for medications, imaging tests, basic health visits and common operations. Those high prices make health care in the U.S. extremely expensive, and they also finance a robust and politically powerful health care industry, which means lowering prices will always be hard. For a typical angioplasty, a procedure that opens a blocked blood vessel to the heart, the average U.S. price is $32,200, compared with $6,400 in the Netherlands, or $7,400 in Switzerland, the survey finds. A typical M.R.I. scan costs $1,420 in the United States, but around $450 in Britain. An injection of Herceptin, an important breast cancer treatment, costs $211 in the United States, compared with $44 in South Africa. These examples aren’t outliers. (snip) The international survey focuses on prices paid by private insurance companies; in many countries, public health programs pay less, meaning the gap in prices for many countries may be even larger if it took account of every patient. The survey doesn’t have information from every country, nor detailed prices for every medical procedure. Drug prices do not include rebates. But the report’s overall message is clear. Prices in the United States are higher for nearly everything — by a lot. (snip) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/upshot/expensive-health-care-world-comparison.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I would also believe us doctors make quite a bit more than in the UK. But Bernie is correct here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted December 27, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just had an MRI done, cost $150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 It shows enormous differences in waiting times between parts of England, despite the government's attempts to iron out the disparities. At the Walsall Hospital Trust's Manor Hospital site, the wait for a routine magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan is 550 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted December 27, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, ManOnManOral said: It shows enormous differences in waiting times between parts of England, despite the government's attempts to iron out the disparities. At the Walsall Hospital Trust's Manor Hospital site, the wait for a routine magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan is 550 days Hell, you could die waiting. But that's what we need. Had mine a week after it was ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 27, 2019 And there are still fools who believe we can. Health insurance without first fixing health care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, Stephen Hawking said: Hell, you could die waiting. But that's what we need. Had mine a week after it was ordered. Routine is for joint pain etc, not critical illness. But no doubt the wait is longer for that as well. Socialized medicine is rationed, of that there is no doubt. How long does an uninsured person complaining of headaches wait for an MRI, answer, they do not get one at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 They’re free here you just have to wait a year or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Guy has been in office for 30 years why did he not fix this 20 years ago? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Guy has been in office for 30 years why did he not fix this 20 years ago? Presidential candidates say a lot of things... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Guy has been in office for 30 years why did he not fix this 20 years ago? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I had blood tests as part of my routine yearly exam 2 weeks ago. $1,200.00 if I can find the bill I will post it Edited December 27, 2019 by Mainecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, Mainecat said: I had blood tests as part of my routine yearly exam. $1,200.00 if I can find the bill I will post it Well you got fucked. Mine were $138 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: Well you got fucked. Mine were $138 Oh my final cost was 150.00 Everyone gets fucked Edited December 27, 2019 by Mainecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 27, 2019 My total cost was $138. Out of pocket $0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Another article designed for DECEPTION. Hooked another one. A polaris rzr costs 15995 in America, you can buy one for 3495 in the UK. See, I can do the same, do you believe me? Edited December 27, 2019 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, racer254 said: Another article designed for DECEPTION. Hooked another one. A polaris rzr costs 15995 in America, you can buy one for 3495 in the UK. See, I can do the same, do you believe me? No one believes you idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, Mainecat said: No one believes you idiot No believed you with your history of lies and hypocrisy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Nothing to see here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
small-bore Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Tickle Shits said: They’re free here you just have to wait a year or so It took me three months to get my back done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Neighbor just got home from visiting his son in Germany, said that's their biggest problem, everyone waits for health care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 27, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: Oh my final cost was 150.00 Everyone gets fucked You are on Medicare correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted December 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 27, 2019 What they charge and what they accept via insurance negotiations aren't even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, small-bore said: It took me three months to get my back done. Last year I had 2 CT scans, labwork, and surgery done in 1 month. The only reason it was that long was the size of the OR needed and how it was booked. It would have been under 2 weeks if it was up to me. This included pre-approvals. Longest month of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 The worlds healthcare is subsidized on the back of US workers. It's pretty simple and it's a result of our corrupt politicians selling us out to private health insurance and corporate profits 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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