Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: People don’t need fully automatic assault gas! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Just trying to circle back a bit now. YEP! A street sweeper would be my choice to inflict maximum casualties and death. Most anti-gun advocates know so little about ballistics and weaponry it is actually astonishing. Again...just emotions runneth over. The librul way!!! While the 5.56 (.223) is an effective round and deadly round at close range, it is primarily a debilitating, wound infliction round..and massive one at that. It will usually splinter at impact sending multiple fragments into the body in different directions causing debilitation and shock. It's a nasty little shit too....a very painful way to bleed out internally which, is how most deaths occur. It's also a unique round in sonic form that will allow it to pierce through most out wear including most fragmentaion vests. It's light, fast moving and still among one of the best out there for warfare. People that are opting for the 7.62 version for more "knock down" are the same ones buying "bump stocks". BUT, for what it is being used for (multiple undarmed, unclad targets in a group), an AR, or any military rifle is the wrong piece. A good semi-auto SG, with easy feed and 00 or even better, #4 sending 2 dozen marbles down range (short range) would be more effective. Hell, I keep mine loaded with alternating bird and target shells. If I were to really want to hose people, a nice drum would really make things messy. Amateurs among us that watch too many movies or, play too many video games. Lol i literally bought a crate of SKS’s a few years back. Was around $1500 for 10. One got a full tapco treatment. I sold a few and still have 3-4 in the bags fun gun but they’re really just a plinker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, DAVE said: Mexico might as well be the usa....after all the libs see no reason for a wall Tons of heroin aren't coming over everyday by illegals carrying it across the border. That mentality is just as absurd as banning guns is going to stop gun violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Lol i literally bought a crate of SKS’s a few years back. Was around $1500 for 10. One got a full tapco treatment. I sold a few and still have 3-4 in the bags fun gun but they’re really just a plinker. In Canada? That's a hell of a deal! If I was in to firearms, I'd be all over that sale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Tons of heroin aren't coming over everyday by illegals carrying it across the border. That mentality is just as absurd as banning guns is going to stop gun violence. Heres the wall btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Just trying to circle back a bit now. YEP! A street sweeper would be my choice to inflict maximum casualties and death. Most anti-gun advocates know so little about ballistics and weaponry it is actually astonishing. Again...just emotions runneth over. The librul way!!! While the 5.56 (.223) is an effective round and deadly round at close range, it is primarily a debilitating, wound infliction round..and massive one at that. It will usually splinter at impact sending multiple fragments into the body in different directions causing debilitation and shock. It's a nasty little shit too....a very painful way to bleed out internally which, is how most deaths occur. It's also a unique round in sonic form that will allow it to pierce through most out wear including most fragmentaion vests. It's light, fast moving and still among one of the best out there for warfare. People that are opting for the 7.62 version for more "knock down" are the same ones buying "bump stocks". BUT, for what it is being used for (multiple undarmed, unclad targets in a group), an AR, or any military rifle is the wrong piece. A good semi-auto SG, with easy feed and 00 or even better, #4 sending 2 dozen marbles down range (short range) would be more effective. Hell, I keep mine loaded with alternating bird and target shells. If I were to really want to hose people, a nice drum would really make things messy. Amateurs among us that watch too many movies or, play too many video games. You can't argue the mechanical function superiority of the AK vs the AR though, that's certainly one reason to opt for the 7.62. I've been told at least... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Registration of specific arms isn't required for a buyer's/seller's card. Make and model of weapons are optional. The exchange, ID of buyer's/seller's card, and date are all that need to be logged. Next. Neal Ok , I want to sell a gun to you. Whats to keep me from doing it with a BC if no one knows I have it to begin with. And now no one knows you have it? Edited February 18, 2018 by steve from amherst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Just trying to circle back a bit now. YEP! A street sweeper would be my choice to inflict maximum casualties and death. Most anti-gun advocates know so little about ballistics and weaponry it is actually astonishing. Again...just emotions runneth over. The librul way!!! While the 5.56 (.223) is an effective round and deadly round at close range, it is primarily a debilitating, wound infliction round..and massive one at that. It will usually splinter at impact sending multiple fragments into the body in different directions causing debilitation and shock. It's a nasty little shit too....a very painful way to bleed out internally which, is how most deaths occur. It's also a unique round in sonic form that will allow it to pierce through most out wear including most fragmentaion vests. It's light, fast moving and still among one of the best out there for warfare. People that are opting for the 7.62 version for more "knock down" are the same ones buying "bump stocks". BUT, for what it is being used for (multiple undarmed, unclad targets in a group), an AR, or any military rifle is the wrong piece. A good semi-auto SG, with easy feed and 00 or even better, #4 sending 2 dozen marbles down range (short range) would be more effective. Hell, I keep mine loaded with alternating bird and target shells. If I were to really want to hose people, a nice drum would really make things messy. Amateurs among us that watch too many movies or, play too many video games. Another reason the military chose that round is cost. It's cheap. During a firefight ( ESPECIALY IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM ) SO MUCH COVER FIRE WAS SHOT . If you look at the rounds fired vs confirmed kills , one would be absolutely amazed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 hours ago, spin_dry said: How many dollars are donated to the nra by the gun mfgs? Either directly or indirectly? https://www.nssf.org/about/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Just trying to circle back a bit now. YEP! A street sweeper would be my choice to inflict maximum casualties and death. Most anti-gun advocates know so little about ballistics and weaponry it is actually astonishing. Again...just emotions runneth over. The librul way!!! While the 5.56 (.223) is an effective round and deadly round at close range, it is primarily a debilitating, wound infliction round..and massive one at that. It will usually splinter at impact sending multiple fragments into the body in different directions causing debilitation and shock. It's a nasty little shit too....a very painful way to bleed out internally which, is how most deaths occur. It's also a unique round in sonic form that will allow it to pierce through most out wear including most fragmentaion vests. It's light, fast moving and still among one of the best out there for warfare. People that are opting for the 7.62 version for more "knock down" are the same ones buying "bump stocks". BUT, for what it is being used for (multiple undarmed, unclad targets in a group), an AR, or any military rifle is the wrong piece. A good semi-auto SG, with easy feed and 00 or even better, #4 sending 2 dozen marbles down range (short range) would be more effective. Hell, I keep mine loaded with alternating bird and target shells. If I were to really want to hose people, a nice drum would really make things messy. Amateurs among us that watch too many movies or, play too many video games. Something like this perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Zambroski said: The problem is we have social issues here. And it's not just the mental "defects" that are doing this. Why are we labeling them from the womb? How are they being made in our society? It's building anger and hate. It's anger and hate with more and more limited ways to slowly have a release. We're a violent species...and the left's idea that we can legislate, and apply rules to erradicate thousands of years of evolution is absolutely idiotic on a scale I find it hard to even try to marginalize. I've gathered two facts from your posts. 1. You want no changes in the current availability of firearms. 2. You haven't a clue how the bulk of firearms are trafficked and eventually get into the hands of gangs and various other criminals. Edited February 18, 2018 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: That's fine, undocumented straw purchases can have a 10 or 20 year prison penalty. It will help reduce the straw purchasing. Presently there is zero deterrent. Neal Make a dent in straw purchases and you'll see some major progress. A study back in 2000 found that 60% of the illegally possessed firearms and those involved in crimes came from 1% of gun dealers. Think we have a problem with the protections associated with a firearms dealer? yes we do. The first stroke of the politicians pens should be in-depth statistics gathering on who's buying the guns and for whom. Edited February 18, 2018 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: In Canada? That's a hell of a deal! If I was in to firearms, I'd be all over that sale! Yeah they were cheap here for the longest time. You could get them from Canadian tire for like $180 each for a while lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: The majority of alphas are idiotic and can't understand that small changes are more desirable than the alternative of bans. They remain idiotically ignorant, and stupid on the issue. Neal Exactly...I brought up the idea that "gunshow" loopholes should be closed and was immediately attacked and told there is no such thing when in fact there is. Then once it was acknowledged that it does exist the argument became that the only thing sold there are old collectibles and it doesn't really matter. Close the loophole and be done with it...private sales as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: You can't argue the mechanical function superiority of the AK vs the AR though, that's certainly one reason to opt for the 7.62. I've been told at least... Well, I could but, I'll just say there is a purpose for every type of weapon. In some cases, the 7.62 and it's high tolerances work well. But, in others the 9mm is a good one too. I've had the choice to carry what I wanted and always went back to the 5.56. Easy to carry, accurate, good mechanics and low shooter fatigue levels. 1 hour ago, steve from amherst said: Another reason the military chose that round is cost. It's cheap. During a firefight ( ESPECIALY IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM ) SO MUCH COVER FIRE WAS SHOT . If you look at the rounds fired vs confirmed kills , one would be absolutely amazed. Weight, fatigue levels and abilities to inflict non-immediate death factored more than cost I think. Rounds expended would be the same. Lots of people shooting at things they can't see in the jungle. 1 hour ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: Something like this perhaps? That'd get r' done! "Hold my fucking Budweiser and watch this shit!!!" 10 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I've gathered two facts from your posts. 1. You want no changes in the current availability of firearms. 2. You haven't a clue how the bulk of firearms are trafficked and eventually get into the hands of gangs and various other criminals. I'm glad you are gathering stuff. Even if it is incorrect because of emotional brain activity on your end, at least it shows you have some activity there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Exactly...I brought up the idea that "gunshow" loopholes should be closed and was immediately attacked and told there is no such thing when in fact there is. Then once it was acknowledged that it does exist the argument became that the only thing sold there are old collectibles and it doesn't really matter. Close the loophole and be done with it...private sales as well. i really like guns, but the rhetoric and flaming bullshit that the gun fanatics spew is embarrassing. All that you can do is shake your head and say, I'm not with stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Well, I could but, I'll just say there is a purpose for every type of weapon. In some cases, the 7.62 and it's high tolerances work well. But, in others the 9mm is a good one too. I've had the choice to carry what I wanted and always went back to the 5.56. Easy to carry, accurate, good mechanics and low shooter fatigue levels. Weight, fatigue levels and abilities to inflict non-immediate death factored more than cost I think. Rounds expended would be the same. Lots of people shooting at things they can't see in the jungle. That'd get r' done! "Hold my fucking Budweiser and watch this shit!!!" I'm glad you are gathering stuff. Even if it is incorrect because of emotional brain activity on your end, at least it shows you have some activity there. The most emotional individual in this thread has been you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: i really like guns, but the rhetoric and flaming bullshit that the gun fanatics spew is embarrassing. All that you can do is shake your head and say, I'm not with stupid... Exactly and this place and TBP are full of them. Edited February 18, 2018 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The most emotional individual in this thread has been you. Id say revkev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, DAVE said: Id say revkev They both get awfully worked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, spin_dry said: They both get awfully worked up. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, spin_dry said: i really like guns, but the rhetoric and flaming bullshit that the gun fanatics spew is embarrassing. All that you can do is shake your head and say, I'm not with stupid... It is. And it's also why I question the military style guns in the hands of civilians. Not a fan of hunters having them either. Lotsa Rambo wannabes out there that never had the nuts to see if they had what it took. However, i also know I'm a Constitutionalist, and while I find some people dipshits, posers and ultimately retards...they have the right to act and do what they want...as do I. 12 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The most emotional individual in this thread has been you. Oh...you misread my posts. The only emotions I exhibit in here is humor. It's rare I get worked up. I do have a few little "triggers" though. But still, how worked up can one get on social media? I'm not a liberal after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
small-bore Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Rod Johnson said: Lol i literally bought a crate of SKS’s a few years back. Was around $1500 for 10. One got a full tapco treatment. I sold a few and still have 3-4 in the bags fun gun but they’re really just a plinker. I want to pick one of those up. Any issues with jamming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: I know alot of people who lost a shitload of weight and then died. I think God just doesn't like fat people, even when they get skinny. I can see why. Once fat, they never get the stink off. They always seems off 6 hours ago, DAVE said: Why are you so mad? It must suck being so mad all the time I bet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just keeping score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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