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No More Wars

Cease needless fighting abroad. Save American and foreign lives.

    • Cease all American military involvement in Ukraine, the Middle East, Africa, the Pacific, Europe, and elsewhere.
    • Call home all troops stationed abroad other than those defending embassies.
    • Stop acting as the world’s police, especially for free. If other countries want Americans to defend them, they can pay for it.
    • Never fight an offensive war. Only fight in a war that directly threatens the lives of American citizens. 

End Foreign Entanglements

Stop taking money from America’s poor for the foreign rich. Live and let live.

    • End all foreign aid. Return the money to the American people.
    • Cease any financial or military support of NATO or the United Nations.
    • Stop attempting to export American democracy. Let other countries live as they want to live. 

Eliminate Military Bloat

Return over $4,000 dollars to each tax payer by cutting unnecessary military spending.

    • Adopt a non-interventionist, defensive military posture.
    • Reduce the military to the size necessary to keep America safe.
    • Return over $4,000 per person in tax savings to the American people. 

Free Trade for Free People

Unrestricted exchanges bring peace and benefit the poor. 

    • Recognize that when goods don’t cross borders, armies will. No government-enforced sanctions on Russia or any other country.
    • No embargoes, no tariffs, no NAFTA, no WTO, no Jones Act, no government trade agreements. Just get out of the way.
    • Recognize that strong trade creates American jobs and more affordable goods for those in poverty. The route to good jobs in America is through better domestic policy, not restricting trade.
    • Maintain sovereignty. The United States should not put trade restrictions on other countries, but it should fight trade restrictions placed on ours.
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1 hour ago, steve from amherst said:

No More Wars

Cease needless fighting abroad. Save American and foreign lives.

    • Cease all American military involvement in Ukraine, the Middle East, Africa, the Pacific, Europe, and elsewhere.
    • Call home all troops stationed abroad other than those defending embassies.
    • Stop acting as the world’s police, especially for free. If other countries want Americans to defend them, they can pay for it.
    • Never fight an offensive war. Only fight in a war that directly threatens the lives of American citizens. 

End Foreign Entanglements

Stop taking money from America’s poor for the foreign rich. Live and let live.

    • End all foreign aid. Return the money to the American people.
    • Cease any financial or military support of NATO or the United Nations.
    • Stop attempting to export American democracy. Let other countries live as they want to live. 

Eliminate Military Bloat

Return over $4,000 dollars to each tax payer by cutting unnecessary military spending.

    • Adopt a non-interventionist, defensive military posture.
    • Reduce the military to the size necessary to keep America safe.
    • Return over $4,000 per person in tax savings to the American people. 

Free Trade for Free People

Unrestricted exchanges bring peace and benefit the poor. 

    • Recognize that when goods don’t cross borders, armies will. No government-enforced sanctions on Russia or any other country.
    • No embargoes, no tariffs, no NAFTA, no WTO, no Jones Act, no government trade agreements. Just get out of the way.
    • Recognize that strong trade creates American jobs and more affordable goods for those in poverty. The route to good jobs in America is through better domestic policy, not restricting trade.
    • Maintain sovereignty. The United States should not put trade restrictions on other countries, but it should fight trade restrictions placed on ours.

And the punch line is????

#1 Trump

#2 Biden

#3 ???????

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Just now, f7ben said:

It’s fairly close to what he ran on , it’s the exact opposite of what he did 

Exactly.  Opposite?  So canceling the climate accord, making nato step up, letting the wef know we weren't on board with their grand schemes, controlled immigration, etc.. was opposite.  And I'm out of my mind.  Jesus guy lose the group think.

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4 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Exactly.  Opposite?  So canceling the climate accord, making nato step up, letting the wef know we weren't on board with their grand schemes, controlled immigration, etc.. was opposite.  And I'm out of my mind.  Jesus guy lose the group think.

Goddamn TDS again 

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7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Exactly.  Opposite?  So canceling the climate accord, making nato step up, letting the wef know we weren't on board with their grand schemes, controlled immigration, etc.. was opposite.  And I'm out of my mind.  Jesus guy lose the group think.

Holy fuck , read the OP again. Trump did almost none if that. The shit you babbled isn’t in the OP 

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Sounds good but its easy to make campaign promises like that.

1. $4000 per tax payer is over $1.3 trillion.   Over how many years is this proposal because while we have room to massively decrease our military budget it currently is around $750 billion a year and one of the main spending items that is in the constitution.  I don't like when politicians stretch out their promises to make them look larger than the are.   

2.  Like the idea of free trade however it takes everyone to play on a fair playing field and other countries are unwilling.   Our policies must match what they impose on our goods.  We've taken the rotten end of the stick since WW2.  Even policies or fuck off. 

3.  Love the 1st two in getting out of wars and ending financial aid.     

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34 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Sounds nice on paper. China would love if we voted for a pacifist, probably Russia too. Who cares though, I guess. :dunno:

China already owns our govt. The last thing they want is "fairness"

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