Should the influenza vaccine be mandated nationwide?

[ArcticCrusher]

4 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

You clowns might want to read this….

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/flu-vs-coronavirus-mortality-and-death-rates-by-year/

 

Most people didn't actual die from covid, you might just want to get a clue.

[Mainecat]

9 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Most people didn't actual die from covid, you might just want to get a clue.

Tell that to the over 660,000 who died and the families they left over the last 20 months.

[ArcticCrusher]

16 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Tell that to the over 660,000 who died and the families they left over the last 20 months.

Like I said, with or from makes all the difference.  The real number is less than 1/10 of that.

[Rod]

11 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Like I said, with or from makes all the difference.  The real number is less than 1/10 of that.

And the vast majority were dying anyway 

[Mainecat]

12 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Like I said, with or from makes all the difference.  The real number is less than 1/10 of that.

The real number? Link please and not from a moronic tweet or meme.

[Angry ginger]

11 minutes ago, ACE said:

And the vast majority were dying anyway 

true,  people at end of life already dying is not anything one should be concerned with.  

[Rod]

2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

true,  people at end of life already dying is not anything one should be concerned with.  

It’s literally unavoidable 

[Phenom]

27 minutes ago, ACE said:

And the vast majority were dying anyway 

This is a very small number but I think it’s significant and shows it’s not just infirmed end of life human beings. 

[Rod]

28 minutes ago, Phenom said:

This is a very small number but I think it’s significant and shows it’s not just infirmed end of life human beings. 

Around 95% of deaths here were well over the average life expectancy 

 

sorry your fell for an emotional headline though. Guessing your IQ is around 89

[Phenom]

Original Covid ran rampant with easy unprotected victims.  Now it’s close friend Delta is here. We can revisit this conversation, say around Christmas and see the demographics of the dead. Merry Christmas. 

[Bontz]

2 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Tell that to the over 660,000 who died and the families they left over the last 20 months.

I know of several families that lost a family member and were "tagged" as COVID ... yet they were in Stage 4 cancer and living on borrowed time.  Their families were livid COVID was being used as a cause of death as they knew all that was, was a money grab by the medical center.  I get that you like to troll this forum, but seriously - wake the fuck up and understand that the total number attributed to COVID deaths are not even close to being accurate.

[Mag6240]

3 minutes ago, Bontz said:

I know of several families that lost a family member and were "tagged" as COVID ... yet they were in Stage 4 cancer and living on borrowed time.  Their families were livid COVID was being used as a cause of death as they knew all that was, was a money grab by the medical center.  I get that you like to troll this forum, but seriously - wake the fuck up and understand that the total number attributed to COVID deaths are not even close to being accurate.

$16k per death is quite the incentive to label them one way or another.

[Phenom]

So what some are saying is if an end of life brain cancer patient contracts Covid and dies prematurely, it’s shouldn’t be a Covid death??

What if said same patient were being transported in an ambulance and a semi blows through a stoplight and kills that same patient. What killed him, the crash or the cancer??

My belief is both the semi and the Covid are the equivalent and are the actual cause of death. 

[Zambroski]

2 minutes ago, Phenom said:

So what some are saying is if an end of life brain cancer patient contracts Covid and dies prematurely, it’s shouldn’t be a Covid death??

What if said same patient were being transported in an ambulance and a semi blows through a stoplight and kills that same patient. What killed him, the crash or the cancer??

My belief is both the semi and the Covid are the equivalent and are the actual cause of death. 

Yes.  This has been a lie from the start.  Many of us have people sitting right next to the death bed patients and saw what their official cause of death was.  A lie.

[steve from amherst]

2 minutes ago, Phenom said:

So what some are saying is if an end of life brain cancer patient contracts Covid and dies prematurely, it’s shouldn’t be a Covid death??

What if said same patient were being transported in an ambulance and a semi blows through a stoplight and kills that same patient. What killed him, the crash or the cancer??

My belief is both the semi and the Covid are the equivalent and are the actual cause of death. 

What if someone had covid and got hit by a semi and killed on way to hospital?

[Zambroski]

3 hours ago, Phenom said:

Original Covid ran rampant with easy unprotected victims.  Now it’s close friend Delta is here. We can revisit this conversation, say around Christmas and see the demographics of the dead. Merry Christmas. 

Should just be all the unvaccinated that die by then.  So, you may not see many of us.  Right?

[Skidooski]

The Flu is so 2019. We're all about that Covid now

[irv]

https://www.facebook.com/kristina.semeredi/videos/1208126896371708

[irv]

18 minutes ago, Phenom said:

So what some are saying is if an end of life brain cancer patient contracts Covid and dies prematurely, it’s shouldn’t be a Covid death??

What if said same patient were being transported in an ambulance and a semi blows through a stoplight and kills that same patient. What killed him, the crash or the cancer??

My belief is both the semi and the Covid are the equivalent and are the actual cause of death. 

https://www.facebook.com/CH1ca-104584054721608/videos/422786332371477/

[ArcticCrusher]

5 hours ago, Mainecat said:

The real number? Link please and not from a moronic tweet or meme.

I don't  have one but why would they do this?  I don't  think you have the common sense to answer.  Yes it's another country, are you getting it yet?

 

 

 

[Phenom]

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

Should just be all the unvaccinated that die by then.  So, you may not see many of us.  Right?

 I, I am not that type of person. I try to look at the world realistically, but would never wish harm or hardship on anyone. 

[Mainecat]

40 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

I don't  have one but why would they do this?  I don't  think you have the common sense to answer.  Yes it's another country, are you getting it yet?

 

 

 

You do know 80% of humans on earth have a pre existing condition of some sort.

[XCR1250]

26 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

You do know 80% of humans on earth have a pre existing condition of some sort.

My big toe hurts sometimes.

[ArcticCrusher]

40 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

You do know 80% of humans on earth have a pre existing condition of some sort.

Does that only get ignored for a vaccine adverse effect or just covid?

 

 

[Zambroski]

1 hour ago, Phenom said:

 I, I am not that type of person. I try to look at the world realistically, but would never wish harm or hardship on anyone. 

Oh, adorable!  You are a good person for sure!  A cut above.

Except this: you are actively advocating taking freedom away for reasons that aren’t yours.  You think you are being a “good person” and working on behalf of “the greater good” but you are not.  Leave others alone.  Let them make their own path unless they ask you for your assistance.  I know you think you mean well though.

I think it was either Truman or FDR that said, “About the worst thing you can say about another man is that he means well.”

I hope I don’t need to break that statement down for you…..but I have a feeling….