20 Dead in Gay Club Shooting.....

[Capt.Storm]

Just now, Sludgey said:

Old enough to know kids can't buy guns man 

Look mother fucker..I asked you a simple question..don't fuck with me!

 

[revkevsdi]

15 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

Rev is pretty much right cept' for that last line.

People use guns to hunt and for protection mostly.

Compare innocent people being killed to gun owners protecting themselves or other people. Let me know what you find.

Canadians and Americans have very close to the same back ground. European/ christian foundation followed up with immigration from many cultures. We have similar cities, entertainment and religion. But your mistaken belief that more guns = more safety is killing so many citizens. 

A little common sense will tell you that a nut job like the latest shooter wanted to murder people. His access to weapons allowed him to inflict a huge amount of casualties. He wasn't a devout or radical Muslim. He was just a guy who wanted to kill a lot of people and blame his hate on the most logical group. Think about if for a moment. If you went off the rails and wanted to inflict maximum damage plus freak people out, you'd claim to kill people in the name of ISIS too. It creates even more fear than the original act. 

[Capt.Storm]

6 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

Compare innocent people being killed to gun owners protecting themselves or other people. Let me know what you find.

Canadians and Americans have very close to the same back ground. European/ christian foundation followed up with immigration from many cultures. We have similar cities, entertainment and religion. But your mistaken belief that more guns = more safety is killing so many citizens. 

A little common sense will tell you that a nut job like the latest shooter wanted to murder people. His access to weapons allowed him to inflict a huge amount of casualties. He wasn't a devout or radical Muslim. He was just a guy who wanted to kill a lot of people and blame his hate on the most logical group. Think about if for a moment. If you went off the rails and wanted to inflict maximum damage plus freak people out, you'd claim to kill people in the name of ISIS too. It creates even more fear than the original act. 

People do buy more guns in the name of protection then to kill other humans..it's a fact.

We're afraid of the crazy's with guns..lol.

 

The guy did want to die as a hero to the radical muslims..that i would agree with.

Edited June 14, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[Snake]

6 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

Compare innocent people being killed to gun owners protecting themselves or other people. Let me know what you find.

Canadians and Americans have very close to the same back ground. European/ christian foundation followed up with immigration from many cultures. We have similar cities, entertainment and religion. But your mistaken belief that more guns = more safety is killing so many citizens. 

A little common sense will tell you that a nut job like the latest shooter wanted to murder people. His access to weapons allowed him to inflict a huge amount of casualties. He wasn't a devout or radical Muslim. He was just a guy who wanted to kill a lot of people and blame his hate on the most logical group. Think about if for a moment. If you went off the rails and wanted to inflict maximum damage plus freak people out, you'd claim to kill people in the name of ISIS too. It creates even more fear than the original act. 

You're off the rails.

[Skidooski]

6 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

Compare innocent people being killed to gun owners protecting themselves or other people. Let me know what you find.

Canadians and Americans have very close to the same back ground. European/ christian foundation followed up with immigration from many cultures. We have similar cities, entertainment and religion. But your mistaken belief that more guns = more safety is killing so many citizens. 

A little common sense will tell you that a nut job like the latest shooter wanted to murder people. His access to weapons allowed him to inflict a huge amount of casualties. He wasn't a devout or radical Muslim. He was just a guy who wanted to kill a lot of people and blame his hate on the most logical group. Think about if for a moment. If you went off the rails and wanted to inflict maximum damage plus freak people out, you'd claim to kill people in the name of ISIS too. It creates even more fear than the original act. 

Guns make you wet the bed..doesn't mean all of us law abiding sane people have to give them up just for you.

[Badger**]

7 hours ago, Puzzleboy said:

That was my point.  The retards can deny it if they dare....

They're genetic misfires.  Celebrating their lifestyle as normal is ridiculous.

 

So their lives are not worth it and you called them a genetic misfire?? You sir are more fucked up then they are. I bet you would put a child with down syndrome in that class or a person with MS?? The Nazis in Germany thought the same way as you I bet you'd like to see them all in concentration camps. Personally I celibate their lives even if I don't agree with their live styles they where still my fellow Americans and they where not hurting anyone IMO.     

 

[snatchslayer]

9 hours ago, Puzzleboy said:

Is anybody here actually upset that 50 fags are dead?

Maybe we've finally found a use for Muslims....

You're a fuckin retard 

[ArcticCrusher]

57 minutes ago, Axys1 said:

So their lives are not worth it and you called them a genetic misfire?? You sir are more fucked up then they are. I bet you would put a child with down syndrome in that class or a person with MS?? The Nazis in Germany thought the same way as you I bet you'd like to see them all in concentration camps. Personally I celibate their lives even if I don't agree with their live styles they where still my fellow Americans and they where not hurting anyone IMO.     

 

 

Celibate and gay in the same reference, lol.

 

Don't condone any harm on anyone.

 

So it now it turns out this guy was a regular at this club, for at least the past 3 years and would get quite drunk and confide about his life.  It is quite possible he was gay himself.

[Capt.Storm]

You know since the fbi was investigating him he should have been put on a list that they(fbi) would be notified if he bought a firearm...no doubt.

Edited June 14, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[Capt.Storm]

2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

So it now it turns out this guy was a regular at this club, for at least the past 3 years and would get quite drunk and confide about his life.  It is quite possible he was gay himself.

Really...damn it just keeps getting weirder,course he is a dem. 

[02sled]

9 hours ago, Puzzleboy said:

Is anybody here actually upset that 50 fags are dead?

Maybe we've finally found a use for Muslims....

If you truly believe this you are one royally screwed up person.

[racer254]

1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said:

You know since the fbi was investing him he should have been put on a list that they(fbi) would be notified if he bought a firearm...no doubt.

Maybe we should be blaming the DOJ?  He had tried to get body armor, but was denied.  How the hell did he pass a background check

[Capt.Storm]

1 minute ago, racer254 said:

Maybe we should be blaming the DOJ?  He had tried to get body armor, but was denied.  How the hell did he pass a background check

Well somebody dropped the ball.

But his record was clean other then the net stuff that they had.

Edited June 14, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[Highmark]

8 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

Compare innocent people being killed to gun owners protecting themselves or other people. Let me know what you find.

Canadians and Americans have very close to the same back ground. European/ christian foundation followed up with immigration from many cultures. We have similar cities, entertainment and religion. But your mistaken belief that more guns = more safety is killing so many citizens. 

A little common sense will tell you that a nut job like the latest shooter wanted to murder people. His access to weapons allowed him to inflict a huge amount of casualties. He wasn't a devout or radical Muslim. He was just a guy who wanted to kill a lot of people and blame his hate on the most logical group. Think about if for a moment. If you went off the rails and wanted to inflict maximum damage plus freak people out, you'd claim to kill people in the name of ISIS too. It creates even more fear than the original act. 

Gang's are responsible for as much as 70-90% of the violent crime in the US.   I highly doubt Canada has the gang problem the US has.  Remove gang gun related violence and we have some of the lowest gun murder rates in the world.  

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/171576/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has-gang-daniel-greenfield

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.

Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.

America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.

National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4^th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

Our national murder rate is not some incomprehensible mystery that can only be attributed to the inanimate tools, the steel, brass and wood that do the work. It is largely the work of adult males from age 18 to 39 with criminal records killing other males of that same age and criminal past.

If this were going on in Rwanda, El Salvador or Sierra Leone, we would have no trouble knowing what to make of it, and silly pearl-clutching nonsense about gun control would never even come up. But this is Chicago, it’s Baltimore, it’s Philly and NOLA; and so we refuse to see that our major cities are in the same boat as some of the worst trouble spots in the world.

Lanza and Newtown are comforting aberrations. They allow us to take refuge in the fantasy that homicides in America are the work of the occasional serial killer practicing his dark art in one of those perfect small towns that always show up in murder mysteries or Stephen King novels. They fool us into thinking that there is something American about our murder rate that can be traced to hunting season, patriotism and bad mothers.

But go to Chicago or Baltimore. Go where the killings really happen and the illusion comes apart.

There is a war going on in America between gangs of young men who bear an uncanny resemblance to their counterparts in Sierra Leone or El Salvador. They live like them, they fight for control of the streets like them and they kill like them.

America’s horrific murder rate is a result of the transformation of major American cities into Sierra Leone, Somalia, Rwanda and El Salvador. Our murder rate now largely consists of criminals killing criminals.

As David Kennedy, the head of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control, put it, "The majority of homicide victims have extensive criminal histories. This is simply the way that the world of criminal homicide works. It's a fact.”

America is, on a county by county basis, not a violent country, just as it, on a county by county basis, did not vote for Obama. It is being dragged down by broken cities full of broken families whose mayors would like to trash the Bill of Rights for the entire country in the vain hope that national gun control will save their cities, even though gun control is likely to be as much help to Chicago or New Orleans as the War on Drugs.

Obama’s pretense that there needs to be a national conversation about rural American gun owners is a dishonest and cynical ploy that distracts attention from the real problem that he and politicians like him have sat on for generations.

We do not need to have a conversation about the NRA. We need to have a conversation about Chicago.

[ArcticCrusher]

2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

Really...damn it just keeps getting weirder,course he is a dem. 

He was a regular and used gay dating apps.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/orlando-gunman-was-a-regular-at-lgbt-nightclub-pulse-before-atta/

[Cold War]

9 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

 

So would Canada's. I'm sure that none of you give a shit about a bunch of gang bangers shooting at each other as long as stray bullets don't kill innocent people. However, there are a huge number of American's who equate freedom with owning military weapons. But what you don't understand is that true freedom would be freedom to send your children to school, attend church, a theatre, a company dinner without your lives being destroyed by a nut bar with enough fire power to kill 50 fucking people before they are stopped. You don't have freedom, are in danger and it is caused by idiots who beleive the NRA.

 

 

Thanks.

 

 

Nope, it is caused by deranged lunatics.

These are weak, attention seeking  individuals.

The media glorifies these people, and treats them like celebrities.

 

 

[ArcticCrusher]

4 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Gang's are responsible for as much as 70-90% of the violent crime in the US.   I highly doubt Canada has the gang problem the US has.  Remove gang gun related violence and we have some of the lowest gun murder rates in the world.  

 

No, but like the USA, they are a major cause of violent crime.

[Cold War]

4 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Gang's are responsible for as much as 70-90% of the violent crime in the US.   I highly doubt Canada has the gang problem the US has.  Remove gang gun related violence and we have some of the lowest gun murder rates in the world.  

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/171576/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has-gang-daniel-greenfield

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.

Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.

America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.

National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4^th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

Our national murder rate is not some incomprehensible mystery that can only be attributed to the inanimate tools, the steel, brass and wood that do the work. It is largely the work of adult males from age 18 to 39 with criminal records killing other males of that same age and criminal past.

If this were going on in Rwanda, El Salvador or Sierra Leone, we would have no trouble knowing what to make of it, and silly pearl-clutching nonsense about gun control would never even come up. But this is Chicago, it’s Baltimore, it’s Philly and NOLA; and so we refuse to see that our major cities are in the same boat as some of the worst trouble spots in the world.

Lanza and Newtown are comforting aberrations. They allow us to take refuge in the fantasy that homicides in America are the work of the occasional serial killer practicing his dark art in one of those perfect small towns that always show up in murder mysteries or Stephen King novels. They fool us into thinking that there is something American about our murder rate that can be traced to hunting season, patriotism and bad mothers.

But go to Chicago or Baltimore. Go where the killings really happen and the illusion comes apart.

There is a war going on in America between gangs of young men who bear an uncanny resemblance to their counterparts in Sierra Leone or El Salvador. They live like them, they fight for control of the streets like them and they kill like them.

America’s horrific murder rate is a result of the transformation of major American cities into Sierra Leone, Somalia, Rwanda and El Salvador. Our murder rate now largely consists of criminals killing criminals.

As David Kennedy, the head of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control, put it, "The majority of homicide victims have extensive criminal histories. This is simply the way that the world of criminal homicide works. It's a fact.”

America is, on a county by county basis, not a violent country, just as it, on a county by county basis, did not vote for Obama. It is being dragged down by broken cities full of broken families whose mayors would like to trash the Bill of Rights for the entire country in the vain hope that national gun control will save their cities, even though gun control is likely to be as much help to Chicago or New Orleans as the War on Drugs.

Obama’s pretense that there needs to be a national conversation about rural American gun owners is a dishonest and cynical ploy that distracts attention from the real problem that he and politicians like him have sat on for generations.

We do not need to have a conversation about the NRA. We need to have a conversation about Chicago.

Oh no!

You are in for some blow back now...............None of this matters in the face of 50 getting killed in one day.

 

[Cold War]

7 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

He was a regular and used gay dating apps.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/orlando-gunman-was-a-regular-at-lgbt-nightclub-pulse-before-atta/

Why am I not surprised.

[Capt.Storm]

6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

He was a regular and used gay dating apps.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/orlando-gunman-was-a-regular-at-lgbt-nightclub-pulse-before-atta/

Man..I could see it if he was picking them up then taking them out..literally.

Must be he was shunned by most of the gay guys then if he was actually gay..wtf. 

[ArcticCrusher]

Just now, Capt.Storm said:

Man..I could see it if he was picking them up then taking them out..literally.

Must be he was shunned by most of the gay guys then if he was actually gay..wtf. 

 

 

Apparently he was trying to pick up men all the time.

 

On the bold, that is what it is really starting to sound like.  

[Capt.Storm]

Just now, ArcticCrusher said:

 

 

Apparently he was trying to pick up men all the time.

 

On the bold, that is what it is really starting to sound like.  

Sorta makes sense.

He knows being gay is against his religion and the gays shun him for whatever reasons so he takes a bunch out and himself. 

[jtssrx]

20 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

Why because his views are different than your views?

It zero to do with his views. It's one thing to lean a certain way politically it's another thing to blindly support everything the party you support does. 

[racer254]

1 hour ago, Capt.Storm said:

Well somebody dropped the ball.

But his record was clean other then the net stuff that they had.

The guys father was known Taliban supporter.

He traveled to the ME twice since 2011 for religious purposes

He tried to obtain multiple different firearms related products and had tried to purchase body armor.

He was on the FBI watch list. 

Someone definitely dropped the ball.

[Momorider]

I read that this was not the worst mass shotting in US history, there is a little incident in 1890 that the government wants people to forget when they slaughtered 290 Indians more than one shooter involved though, wounded knee massacre, look it up