teamgreen02 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Being released tonight at 9PM EST. Leaks are a new Mach being released to compete with the Thundercat/Sidewinder. I don't think we will see any changes to the two strokes other than more 850 turbo options. Will we see a fix for their front end? I think so. Will the XRS finally get the same shock package as the race sled? I doubt it. Otherwise, BNG all the way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 New mach. it has to be a turbo if its going to compete. But a 1000 etec would be pretty horny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Anler said: New mach. it has to be a turbo if its going to compete. But a 1000 etec would be pretty horny... Now that wouid make my pants tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, ACE said: Now that wouid make my pants tight I’d have to start working 60hrs a week and order one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Don't think you'll see a 2 stroke twin past 850 without a balance shaft and then the temperamental bitch will weigh the same as a turbo 4 stroke. I think the 1200 Rotax weighed 12-15 lbs more than the 1000 SDI and a larger ACE will be lighter than the old 1200. 1100 ACE turbo, 200 HP and shortened suspension. The G4 is not a fast chassis in trail form 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Tinker said: Don't think you'll see a 2 stroke twin past 850 without a balance shaft and then the temperamental bitch will weigh the same as a turbo 4 stroke. I think the 1200 Rotax weighed 12-15 lbs more than the 1000 SDI and a larger ACE will be lighter than the old 1200. 1100 ACE turbo, 200 HP and shortened suspension. The G4 is not a fast chassis in trail form It’s not just the overall weight of the motor. 4s motors are top heavy and have a lot of rotational mass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Tinker said: Don't think you'll see a 2 stroke twin past 850 without a balance shaft and then the temperamental bitch will weigh the same as a turbo 4 stroke. I think the 1200 Rotax weighed 12-15 lbs more than the 1000 SDI and a larger ACE will be lighter than the old 1200. 1100 ACE turbo, 200 HP and shortened suspension. The G4 is not a fast chassis in trail form 200 ponies in a lot lighter package than the cat turbo would be a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Edmo said: 200 ponies in a lot lighter package than the cat turbo would be a winner. 200hp our of the anemic 900T is a loser before it hits the lake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Is there anything that gets bhent more triggered than a 900 T? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Kev144 said: Is there anything that gets bhent more triggered than a 900 T? WOOLIE ON A 900t!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: 200hp our of the anemic 900T is a loser before it hits the lake Anemic why? Cuz it won’t run with the leather checkerboard jacket crowd? It was one of their biggest selling models last year and beats all the 2 strokes while being 60-80 lbs lighter than the big bore turbos. It’s a great all around package. 3300 miles and it’s the best all around sled I’ve ever owned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Anemic why? Cuz it won’t run with the leather checkerboard jacket crowd? It was one of their biggest selling models last year and beats all the 2 strokes while being 60-80 lbs lighter than the big bore turbos. It’s a great all around package. 3300 miles and it’s the best all around sled I’ve ever owned. You forgot Sabertooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Anemic why? Cuz it won’t run with the leather checkerboard jacket crowd? It was one of their biggest selling models last year and beats all the 2 strokes while being 60-80 lbs lighter than the big bore turbos. It’s a great all around package. 3300 miles and it’s the best all around sled I’ve ever owned. Mine runs rather well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Anemic why? Cuz it won’t run with the leather checkerboard jacket crowd? It was one of their biggest selling models last year and beats all the 2 strokes while being 60-80 lbs lighter than the big bore turbos. It’s a great all around package. 3300 miles and it’s the best all around sled I’ve ever owned. It’s anemic because it makes poor hp for a boosted motor and it can’t handle any real power when tuned and it’s slow for the hp output it can achieve. Other than that it’s great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 12, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Anler said: New mach. it has to be a turbo if its going to compete. But a 1000 etec would be pretty horny... Absofuckinglutely! We've been teased about a new Mach since 2008. Not holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Highmark said: Absofuckinglutely! We've been teased about a new Mach since 2008. Not holding my breath. Me neither Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: It’s anemic because it makes poor hp for a boosted motor and it can’t handle any real power when tuned and it’s slow for the hp output it can achieve. Other than that it’s great Hardly the first sled that basically compromised every performance category and won't be the last either nothing wrong with an all-around well rounded performance shed wide wide appeal Edited February 12, 2020 by Momorider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, f7ben said: It’s anemic because it makes poor hp for a boosted motor and it can’t handle any real power when tuned and it’s slow for the hp output it can achieve. Other than that it’s great So it handles and performs great for 95% of the trail riders out there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Momorider said: Hardly the first sled that basically compromised every performance category and won't be the last either nothing wrong with an all-around well rounded performance shed wide wide appeal 1 minute ago, Anler said: So it handles and performs great for 95% of the trail riders out there? maybe it’s fine for 90% of people.....just don’t call it a fucking machz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: maybe it’s fine for 90% of people.....just don’t call it a fucking machz Oh I agree they cant make the 900t a mach, it has to be something more awesomer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 12, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 12, 2020 The large surface area of a 1000 cc 2 stroke twins makes it difficult to get a full, efficient burn of the charge. Cat seemed pretty successful with theirs. One of the snow rags did an article on the 05-07 Mach a while back which this was discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Anler said: Oh I agree they cant make the 900t a mach, it has to be something more awesomer... The aftermarket fully squeezing every hp it can reasonably get out of a 900t can barely get it to run with a stock winder. That’s no base for a Mach z to be built on unless it’s stronger rotating assembly and bigger turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: maybe it’s fine for 90% of people.....just don’t call it a fucking machz I was more referring to the 900T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 12, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: maybe it’s fine for 90% of people.....just don’t call it a fucking machz Certain sled names should be reserved for the right sled. If you are going to name something Mach it better be good. Yamaha did the SRX name justice reintroducing it last year on the model they did. Same with cat and the Thundercat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: The aftermarket fully squeezing every hp it can reasonably get out of a 900t can barely get it to run with a stock winder. That’s no base for a Mach z to be built on unless it’s stronger rotating assembly and bigger turbo So the 900T from the X3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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