Wildboer Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, teamgreen02 said: Then don't buy the XRS package but don't dumb it down for the rest of us. If you have your clickers past half way and you're not hitting large jumps you're either fat as fuck, you have no concept of throttle control and body input, or you just have your suspension set up way harder than necessary to make yourself feel cool. Like I said, I'm 250lbs and I ride hard. The XRS is valved plenty stiff and you're not gonna blow out pro-40's on any trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Momorider said: Those days are gone you can't make Ridder forward sleds that can take a bump go fast like those What is a ridder forward sled there genius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Anler said: Yep. Lake racing is the mouth breathing knuckle dragging crew from the hoop n holler. Complete inbred retards... 14 minutes ago, Wildboer said: If you have your clickers past half way and you're not hitting large jumps you're either fat as fuck, you have no concept of throttle control and body input, or you just have your suspension set up way harder than necessary to make yourself feel cool. Like I said, I'm 250lbs and I ride hard. The XRS is valved plenty stiff and you're not gonna blow out pro-40's on any trail. Honestly, from how you just described you shock settings, you'd have been money ahead not paying extra for the XRS package. Your trails must be smooth as butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Honestly, from how you just described you shock settings, you'd have been money ahead not paying extra for the XRS package. Your trails must be smooth as butter. Majority of riders don't need the xrs package. It's a look at me model nothing more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Kev144 said: Majority of riders don't need the xrs package. It's a look at me model nothing more. Yep. Get rid of those graphics and most won't sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Honestly, from how you just described you shock settings, you'd have been money ahead not paying extra for the XRS package. Your trails must be smooth as butter. I do a lot of riding with my family, so my base settings take into account the fact that I can't go as hard as I'd like to while riding with a bunch of sixty-somethings. When I'm not holding back for the old folks fronts are 8 out of 22, center shock goes up to 11, and the rear is at 8. The center will bottom occasionally over real big stuff, I could probably use a few more clicks of compression then, but that's a price I'm willing to pay in order to get the full use of the suspension when the trails aren't totally clapped out. The fronts just eat up anything you can throw at them, maybe it's my riding style, but I can fly through the roughest shit and they just don't bottom. As for the rear arm there's just not that much weight back there on the G4 chassis, by the time it's hitting the bump the front arm has already absorbed the brunt of the hit. They key issue with Ski-Doo's X package, at least for me, is that the center shock is not adjustable and it comes valved WAY too soft. It bottoms regularly even at casual speeds. Also, the XRS fell into my lap. We have a very good relationship with our dealer, someone bailed on their spring order and they were willing to deal on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Anler said: Yep. Lake racing is the mouth breathing knuckle dragging crew from the hoop n holler. Complete inbred retards... Serious question,what is the draw to hoop& holler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Wildboer said: I do a lot of riding with my family, so my base settings take into account the fact that I can't go as hard as I'd like to while riding with a bunch of sixty-somethings. When I'm not holding back for the old folks fronts are 8 out of 22, center shock goes up to 11, and the rear is at 8. The center will bottom occasionally over real big stuff, I could probably use a few more clicks of compression then, but that's a price I'm willing to pay in order to get the full use of the suspension when the trails aren't totally clapped out. The fronts just eat up anything you can throw at them, maybe it's my riding style, but I can fly through the roughest shit and they just don't bottom. As for the rear arm there's just not that much weight back there on the G4 chassis, by the time it's hitting the bump the front arm has already absorbed the brunt of the hit. They key issue with Ski-Doo's X package, at least for me, is that the center shock is not adjustable and it comes valved WAY too soft. It bottoms regularly even at casual speeds. Also, the XRS fell into my lap. We have a very good relationship with our dealer, someone bailed on their spring order and they were willing to deal on it. I'm just saying, the vast majority of riders don't need these shocks. An X package with a center revalve will do wonders for many. Fact is, most people hate the way their "Race Replica" rides because they don't know what they are doing with the shocks...and really have no interest in learning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Highmark said: You haven't been on or near a 800 144 Assault. That sled/chassis set up is extremely efficient. As is my 2014 800 Indy SP. Best running 140-145 HP sled I've ever seen except early Firecats. The best two stroke cross over sled made at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I'm just saying, the vast majority of riders don't need these shocks. An X package with a center revalve will do wonders for many. Fact is, most people hate the way their "Race Replica" rides because they don't know what they are doing with the shocks...and really have no interest in learning. I run my xcr switch near full soft. I only got it cause it was the same price as a regular pro s from a different dealer left over so it made more sense resale and it looks nicer with painted tunnel vs non Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 12, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Honestly, from how you just described you shock settings, you'd have been money ahead not paying extra for the XRS package. Your trails must be smooth as butter. He rides Old Forge, it's where all the "Benny's" from Jersey and PA go to ride,..you have to buy a special pass to ride there and they have 24hr paid grooming going on..It's for the folks that want to go "Ski Doo'n" as we like to say.. Beautiful area, spectacular trails if you want flat and smooth.. But WB does go off the path and rides a little less touristy trails too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I'm just saying, the vast majority of riders don't need these shocks. An X package with a center revalve will do wonders for many. Fact is, most people hate the way their "Race Replica" rides because they don't know what they are doing with the shocks...and really have no interest in learning. You should see all the schmucks on Dootalk asking how to lower the front end to the height of an X because their XRS is "tippy" Shit, I put USI X2's on it and it still corners plenty flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Woodtick said: Serious question,what is the draw to hoop& holler? Nostalgia? I've only been there once, I thought it was a dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Anler said: Nostalgia? I've only been there once, I thought it was a dump. It’s a dump with gas and bar food. I prefer Gogebic lodge, or root cellar,but rarely ride that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I just hope Doo comes out with a reliable 800 for 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, Kev144 said: Majority of riders don't need the xrs package. It's a look at me model nothing more. it is crazy how many people you pass on a say on there xrs thinking they are really on fire on that trail .reality just fatfucks holding up the flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Welp a cat team helix is under spring pressure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: He rides Old Forge, it's where all the "Benny's" from Jersey and PA go to ride,..you have to buy a special pass to ride there and they have 24hr paid grooming going on..It's for the folks that want to go "Ski Doo'n" as we like to say.. Beautiful area, spectacular trails if you want flat and smooth.. But WB does go off the path and rides a little less touristy trails too We basically get out of the Town of Webb trail system as quickly as possible, and it honestly wasn't as touristy when my parents built the house almost 30 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 13, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wildboer said: We basically get out of the Town of Webb trail system as quickly as possible, and it honestly wasn't as touristy when my parents built the house almost 30 years ago. Oh no, I know man, I've seen you post where you ride and you're not on the tourist route as I said..It's beautiful there, I couldn't imagine 30 years ago how much more woodsy/private it had to be..That's awesome.. I do a good amount of business in that town, I will tell you this, All my customers appreciate your business.. You ever venture over to Speculator?? I have some customers there, the riding looks awesome..I know it's a hike from OF.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I keep seeing people commenting on a fucking 600 ACE being turbo and all. that would be gay as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Beavis and Butt-Head said: I keep seeing people commenting on a fucking 600 ACE being turbo and all. that would be gay as fuck. Well it’s skidoo so..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Oh no, I know man, I've seen you post where you ride and you're not on the tourist route as I said..It's beautiful there, I couldn't imagine 30 years ago how much more woodsy/private it had to be..That's awesome.. I do a good amount of business in that town, I will tell you this, All my customers appreciate your business.. You ever venture over to Speculator?? I have some customers there, the riding looks awesome..I know it's a hike from OF.. We head out that way sometimes, got turned around on our way home from the Oxbow last season and ended up crashing in a bedroom in some guys heated barn/garage. We knocked on the door to ask directions and it turned out the guy who owned the place used to run the dump we use back in Jersey. Instead of giving us direction he just said, "You're no making it back to Old Forge tonight in this weather, come in and make yourself comfortable." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Well it’s skidoo so..... its funny, look at the faggots on DooTalk, they are locking down whole bunch of threads LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, Woodtick said: It’s a dump with gas and bar food. I prefer Gogebic lodge, or root cellar,but rarely ride that way. Yeah I never plan on going that way. Every time I do I ask myself "why did I do that?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 13, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Wildboer said: We head out that way sometimes, got turned around on our way home from the Oxbow last season and ended up crashing in a bedroom in some guys heated barn/garage. We knocked on the door to ask directions and it turned out the guy who owned the place used to run the dump we use back in Jersey. Instead of giving us direction he just said, "You're no making it back to Old Forge tonight in this weather, come in and make yourself comfortable." That's awesome, I remember you telling us that story now that you mention it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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