Meth Storm

[racer254]

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

I'm pretty sure people live like that without the drugs also.  But, capatalism is to blame for their choices...or lack of them I guess.  I don't know...some of this complete and ignorant idiocy spewed here is starting to become boring to me anymore.  

I guess it's best to blame capitalism when you don't want to take responsibility for you own actions.  (sarcasm)  and just think what these people would be like within a socialist society....probably just hard working members of utopia. 

[f7ben]

7 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Who do you blame for your failed business?  Private sector systemic corruption and greed?  

Yes I do put some of the blame on ANYONE (not just AA's) who overspend their budget.  Mortgage's that included money for vacations and what not.   Explain Ben how corporations who are just groups of people are more greedy than other groups of people?  

 

Well since it was the fucking bankers and wall street that caused 100% of the crash with illegal investment procedures I would say that it is perfectly fair for me to blame my failed home building business on the housing crash. Bundling sub prime mortgages with prime ones to hide them was fraudulent negligent action. Complex mortgage swaps and derivatives were shady investments and banks knew they were leveraging themselves well beyond what could be sustained.

You go ahead and blame some poor sap who got lied to about his homes real value and mortgaged the world to get it.......I'll blame the actors who engaged in the 100% fraudulent activity and actually caused the whole crash.

Now to the drug addiction you fucking brain dead fuck.......how about we address the pharma companies flooding the street with legal heroin and getting people hooked. Thats low hanging fruit and its being done on purpose.

[f7ben]

Highmark , Racer and Gaybroski  pinnacle of fucking right wing hackery and outright ignorance and they are fucking proud of it. Like 3 little low iq momo's licking each others popcorn shrimps .....fucking faggots 

[Anler]

Just now, f7ben said:

Well since it was the fucking bankers and wall street that caused 100% of the crash with illegal investment procedures I would say that it is perfectly fair for me to blame my failed home building business on the housing crash. Bundling sub prime mortgages with prime ones to hide them was fraudulent negligent action. Complex mortgage swaps and derivatives were shady investments and banks knew they were leveraging themselves well beyond what could be sustained.

You go ahead and blame some poor sap who got lied to about his homes real value and mortgaged the world to get it.......I'll blame the actors who engaged in the 100% fraudulent activity and actually caused the whole crash.

Now to the drug addiction you fucking brain dead fuck.......how about we address the pharma companies flooding the street with legal heroin and getting people hooked. Thats low hanging fruit and its being done on purpose.

No shit. If you are in the home building business and the housing market crashes is that your fault? For fucks sake man. 

[s pump]

10 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

He isn't lying.

Gives @motonoggin creedence.

Yup, give the drug dealer creedance. The fuck Vince?

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

No shit. If you are in the home building business and the housing market crashes is that your fault? For fucks sake man. 

I have owned his retarded ass so many times on this he has to resort to anything personal he can scrape off the bottom of the barrel .......dude is a fucking momo style retard  

[Highmark]

Just now, f7ben said:

Well since it was the fucking bankers and wall street that caused 100% of the crash with illegal investment procedures I would say that it is perfectly fair for me to blame my failed home building business on the housing crash. Bundling sub prime mortgages with prime ones to hide them was fraudulent negligent action. Complex mortgage swaps and derivatives were shady investments and banks knew they were leveraging themselves well beyond what could be sustained.

You go ahead and blame some poor sap who got lied to about his homes real value and mortgaged the world to get it.......I'll blame the actors who engaged in the 100% fraudulent activity and actually caused the whole crash.

Now to the drug addiction you fucking brain dead fuck.......how about we address the pharma companies flooding the street with legal heroin and getting people hooked. Thats low hanging fruit and its being done on purpose.

So home builders weren't going around convincing customers they can afford more?   Real estate agents weren't?  You fucking crack me up blaming your failed business on someone other than yourself.   There was plenty of blame for the housing crash of which home buyers and owners are not exempt from.  

Blaming someone else is like admitting your to your own stupidity.    You don't know any better.  

[Angry ginger]

6 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Well since it was the fucking bankers and wall street that caused 100% of the crash with illegal investment procedures I would say that it is perfectly fair for me to blame my failed home building business on the housing crash. Bundling sub prime mortgages with prime ones to hide them was fraudulent negligent action. Complex mortgage swaps and derivatives were shady investments and banks knew they were leveraging themselves well beyond what could be sustained.

You go ahead and blame some poor sap who got lied to about his homes real value and mortgaged the world to get it.......I'll blame the actors who engaged in the 100% fraudulent activity and actually caused the whole crash.

Now to the drug addiction you fucking brain dead fuck.......how about we address the pharma companies flooding the street with legal heroin and getting people hooked. Thats low hanging fruit and its being done on purpose.

yes lack of personal responsibility should be ignored,  it's all the bankers fault

[Zambroski]

8 minutes ago, racer254 said:

I guess it's best to blame capitalism when you don't want to take responsibility for you own actions.  (sarcasm)  and just think what these people would be like within a socialist society....probably just hard working members of utopia. 

Ahhh....yes.  All contributing and self regulating members of a flourishing society.  How has this NOT BEEN DONE BEFORE?????? 

2 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Highmark , Racer and Gaybroski  pinnacle of fucking right wing hackery and outright ignorance and they are fucking proud of it. Like 3 little low iq momo's licking each others popcorn shrimps .....fucking faggots 

You're like a baby deer in the woods...with a real loud grunt and a very animated foot stomp. 

1 minute ago, s pump said:

Yup, give the drug dealer creedance. The fuck Vince?

He get's caught up in the librul moments here.  

[DriftBusta]

10 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

He isn't lying.

Gives @motonoggin creedence.

I don't give Dan creedence for much, although I understand he's got a pretty whiz bang machine he created for measuring THC levels.

28 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Yah .....and low income my best buddies are to blame for the housing crisis.....blah blah blah. Fucking idiot 

Can you ever just have a conversation without spittle flying out of your mouth?

22 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Nope....you love to point the finger at any individual you can regardless of if there is private sector systemic corruption and greed to blame ....you are a shameless corporate apologist and its plain as day.

And you broad brush entire industries, but thats ok.

5 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Well since it was the fucking bankers and wall street that caused 100% of the crash with illegal investment procedures I would say that it is perfectly fair for me to blame my failed home building business on the housing crash. Bundling sub prime mortgages with prime ones to hide them was fraudulent negligent action. Complex mortgage swaps and derivatives were shady investments and banks knew they were leveraging themselves well beyond what could be sustained.

You go ahead and blame some poor sap who got lied to about his homes real value and mortgaged the world to get it.......I'll blame the actors who engaged in the 100% fraudulent activity and actually caused the whole crash.

Now to the drug addiction you fucking brain dead fuck.......how about we address the pharma companies flooding the street with legal heroin and getting people hooked. Thats low hanging fruit and its being done on purpose.

Sure, so blame the whole industry instead of the guilty parties.  Quit being so simple.

4 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Highmark , Racer and Gaybroski  pinnacle of fucking right wing hackery and outright ignorance and they are fucking proud of it. Like 3 little low iq momo's licking each others popcorn shrimps .....fucking faggots 

This is why no adult takes you serious.  You're like a fucking child.

[f7ben]

Just now, Angry ginger said:

yes lack of personal responsibility should be ignored,  it's all the bankers fault

There are no rules concerning personal responsibility .....our fucking President proves that out daily.

There were however rules in place regarding the rules that were broken by banks that led to the crisis.....they were ignored and fraud was committed

THE FUCKING END

[DriftBusta]

4 minutes ago, Highmark said:

So home builders weren't going around convincing customers they can afford more?   Real estate agents weren't?  You fucking crack me up blaming your failed business on someone other than yourself.   There was plenty of blame for the housing crash of which home buyers and owners are not exempt from.  

Blaming someone else is like admitting your to your own stupidity.    You don't know any better.  

I'm guessing Ben never had a credit line for 500k or more, and what banks require for such things.  Buyers did and still over extend themselves all the time, but Ben seems to think it was all the fault of those Lehman bros. dudes.

Edited November 29, 2017 by DriftBusta

[DriftBusta]

Just now, f7ben said:

There are no rules concerning personal responsibility .....our fucking President proves that out daily.

There were however rules in place regarding the rules that were broken by banks that led to the crisis.....they were ignored and fraud was committed

THE FUCKING END

Go lay down Retardo Montobalm  you're getting excited again.  Take a Xanax.

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, DriftBusta said:

I don't give Dan creedence for much, although I understand he's got a pretty whiz bang machine he created for measuring THC levels.

Can you ever just have a conversation without spittle flying out of your mouth?

And you broad brush entire industries, but thats ok.

Sure, so blame the whole industry instead of the guilty parties.  Quit being so simple.

This is why no adult takes you serious.  You're like a fucking child.

I would love to blame the guilty parties....there were many many of them and not a one of the cocksuckers who destroyed more lives that we can count was ever held accountable. Instead they were given golden parachutes and now are right back at it.

[Highmark]

Just now, DriftBusta said:

I'm guessing Ben never had a credit line for 500k or more, and what banks require for such things.  Buyers did and still over extend themselves all the time, but Ben seems to think it whose Lehman bros. dudes.

I love this debate.   All you have to do is ask them if they could be duped by some bank into buying a home they couldn't afford.   They will boldly claim no way they are too smart and financially savvy.     

[Zambroski]

6 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

No shit. If you are in the home building business and the housing market crashes is that your fault? For fucks sake man. 

Oh, and I'm betting Benny and many others got into the business cuz homes were flying off the shelves and in BIG demand due to the same lending standards.  AMIRITE?  Yep..I am.

Goes both ways.  Like the stock market.  It's a gamble.  And I am NO FRIEND of the banking and the lending practice that cost me OOODLES of cash.  But, as they say, it all "is what it is."

1 minute ago, Angry ginger said:

yes lack of personal responsibility should be ignored,  it's all the bankers fault

Honestly.  That's why a single mother who worked as a librarian bought a $750k home down the street from me.  Forclosed a year later.  STUPID BANKS...they lied to her about her income....oh wait, that may have been the other way around. 

 

[f7ben]

Just now, DriftBusta said:

Go lay down Retardo Montobalm  you're getting excited again.  Take a Xanax.

DERP DERP>...DERP HOIPDVJPOIVH

You are a fucking moron and I'll go on owning you faggot right wing morons all day

Trump files BK a dozen times for 10's of millions and its all "just playing by the rules" .....Joe Blow borrows a little too much on a house and you guys want to shift the blame from corrupt wall street vampires and directly on to the little guy  too fucking easy

[Zambroski]

2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Go lay down Retardo Montobalm  you're getting excited again.  Take a Xanax.

 

[f7ben]

And for the record I hung up my construction business because the global economy collapsed and there was zero remodeling , roofing or any type of building going on in the area I livedfor the most part. Not just house construction.

Edited November 29, 2017 by f7ben

[racer254]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

DERP DERP>...DERP HOIPDVJPOIVH

You are a fucking moron and I'll go on owning you faggot right wing morons all day

Trump files BK a dozen times for 10's of millions and its all "just playing by the rules" .....Joe Blow borrows a little too much on a house and you guys want to shift the blame from corrupt wall street vampires and directly on to the little guy  too fucking easy

Why don't you start coming up with the names of these wall street vampires.  Put them in jail. 

[favoritos]

Meth users do not start out on scrip drugs.  They start out on beer.

Handing out Oxy like candy has stopped because of the controls in place for the distribution network.  It took the DEA quite some time to get that right.

We can ramble on all day about capitalism and drugs but, demand is the #1 driving factor.  I am amazed that more people are not dying yet.  They are playing with some seriously heavy drug combinations on the street.  The users playing with carfen will not live long.

[Anler]

13 hours ago, CarlSpackler said:

If your dentist prescribed Oxycontin for your wisdom teeth he should loose his license...fucking moron. You don't just jump from a handful of Tylenol 3's to sticking a fucking needle in your arm.

No but lets say 10% of people who are prescribed opiate pain killers develop some degree of dependence? The pharmaceutical companies know this and they pay doctors to prescribe these medications knowing that they will be expanding their customer base bigly. Its no different than what street drug dealers do. So you saying that street drug dealers have no accountability in illegal drug use if they arent taking it? Sounds like you are. 

9 hours ago, Ez ryder said:

I can guarantee I could stay of opioids. I have never been a fan of the downers . 

Some people can, some cant. Look at Rush Limbaugh. He was pretty vocal about scumbag drug users and look what happened to him.It affects people differently. 

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

Possibly.   Maybe people could just not use shit that fries their brains and makes they worthless leaches of society as well.  I don't care who is selling it the users are most to blame.  

Do you know how addiction works? Its a chemical change in your brain, for some it cant be controlled. I have had 3 surgeries in my life, I was administered heavy doses of opiods for each one. Thats how some people start, and sometimes thats all it takes. I didnt even choose to take them, they were just given to me via IV. 

Ever see someone try to get off of opiate addiction? It aint pretty and can even be fatal. I think if we are going to hold street dealers accountable we should hold pharmaceutical companies and doctors accountable also. But since they manipulated the govt to make themselves "unacountable" we dont hold them to the same standards even tho they use the same tactics as street dealers. 

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

But then, who would be the "victims"?  

If we as a society can help people should we or should we just let them suffer due to their own ignorance or lack of ability to help themselves?

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

In the show every single person in the family smoked, had severe medical issues, was housed (granted it was a dump) and fed by society.   Not one of them worked.   Meth was fucking them up so bad they had dog shit all over the floor and would just cover it with dirty clothes.  I must have seen 5-10 different dogs in and around their place.   

People are assholes. Not all muslims are radical jihadists and not all drug addicts are white trash losers. 

27 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Yah .....and low income my best buddies are to blame for the housing crisis.....blah blah blah. Fucking idiot 

Hey if you let yourself be fooled its your fault. 

[f7ben]

Just now, racer254 said:

Why don't you start coming up with the names of these wall street vampires.  Put them in jail. 

Because I am not in a position to do so....but many people you have supported are and never did a thing.

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

And for the record I hung up my construction business because the global economy collapsed and there was zero remodeling , roofing or any type of building going on for the most part. Now just house construction.

Noted and recorded.

 

 

Fag.  

[f7ben]

Just now, Zambroski said:

Noted and recorded.

 

 

Fag.