Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Steve753 said: How is there more to it? Prove your citizenship or you can't vote. To not be in favor of that seems sketchy. You’re either obtuse or as ignorant/dumb as AC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, SnowRider said: You’re either obtuse or as ignorant/dumb as AC. Just say you're not for mandatory ID to vote. But you can't because you can't think for yourself. You have to follow your party to a t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Just say you're not for mandatory ID to vote. But you can't because you can't think for yourself. You have to follow your party to a t. You’re a total hack if you don’t believe deliberate and targeted voter suppression is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Say you’re an ignorant racist without saying you’re an ignorant racist. Ahhhh....snowpussys people and the racism of low expectations. Unlike you I believe black people can vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, spin_dry said: That’s a states rights issue. Didn't say otherwise....although it didn't help PA when their state constitution disallowed mail in ballots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: Voter ID is fine as long as it’s free and easy to attain. Everyone has I.D don't be obtuse Edited May 30, 2023 by SkisNH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, SnowRider said: A lot more to it than that. Educate yourself so you’re not so ignorant on the issue. bullshit, no valid id no vote plain and simple, id's are easy to get if you want them, voter suppression is a crock of shit you stupid fuck 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, 01mxz800 said: bullshit, no valid id no vote plain and simple, id's are easy to get if you want them, voter suppression is a crock of shit you stupid fuck He legit is one of the stupidest people I have encountered,..It almost has to be an act, but then he posts again, and I'm like nope, fucker is dumb as a stump 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Steve753 said: Trumps lowered the bar by alot though. He's a fucking embarrassment. Trump votes by mail... so where's the problem? No... I always vote in person with my ID in hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Everyone has I.D don't be obtuse Not true. Many elderly who don’t drive vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: Not true. Many elderly who don’t drive vote. We have a system for absentee ballots that is safe and secure...even if they don't drive they have I.D They need I.D for every Doctors appointment. To get a mailbox, to get library card etc.. such a weak argument that we can't to paper ballots. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted May 30, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: Not true. Many elderly who don’t drive vote. So you've never had to show an ID at say a doctors office that you were referred to? Elderly people don't go to banks? I just converted my moms DL to a standard ID as there are lots of reasons to need one and she doesn't drive anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 Who here stands in line for 8+hours to vote? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 4 hours ago, SnowRider said: Fuck you 🤡’s. After he has made such a spectacle of himself in professing that voter protection laws are unnecessary, it was unsettling for Al Sharpton to publicly hug a convicted perpetrator of vote fraud at a public event. Yet, there was Sharpton — hugging Melowese Richardson on March 20. At a rally promoting a referendum to amend the Ohio state constitution to make it easier to register to vote, expand valid identification and guaranteed early voting, he didn’t run away from Richardson, who recently served eight months behind bars for voting multiple times. She effectively stole the votes of innocent, law-abiding Americans. Have you no shame, Reverend Al?! The case against Melowese Richardson couldn’t be more open and shut. She admitted to vote fraud on a local Cincinnati television broadcast. “Yes, I voted twice,” she declared on WCPO-TV in February of 2013. The longtime poll worker, who originally voted by absentee ballot, was afraid it might have been mailed too late. So she voted again on Election Day. Richardson also “absolutely voted an absentee ballot” for her granddaughter. When the granddaughter was found to have voted twice, Richardson speculated that the granddaughter forgot grandma already voted for her. Then there was Montez Richardson, her sister. Richardson voted for her sister, although her sister has been in a coma since 2003. Richardson claimed what she did resulted in “absolutely legal votes” and said at the time she would fight the allegations against her as part of an apparently larger struggle “for Mr. Obama’s right to sit as President of the United States.” Richardson ended up pleading no contest to vote fraud and was sentenced to five years in prison. The plea deal contained her admission that she voted on behalf of her comatose sister in 2008, 2011 and 2012. When Richardson went to prison, Sharpton’s National Action Network knew her case. They didn’t condemn her actions, but protested her punishment. NAN’s Greater Cincinnati Chapter issued a statement saying it was “deeply concerned and frankly appalled” by the judge’s sentence. NAN claimed Richardson was “being used as a pawn in a political game to attempt to further the agenda of those who are trying to enact voter suppression legislation through the use of false hysteria around unproven and non-existent mass voter fraud.” But the NAN statement also notes there were three cases of known voter fraud in Hamilton County, Ohio during the 2012 election. The problem, as NAN saw it, was that only Richardson was sentenced to prison (for four counts of fraud) while the other two cases (one count each) resulted in lesser punishment. And the other two offenders are white while Richardson is black. The Ohio Justice and Policy Center successfully appealed the sentence, claiming Richardson suffers from bipolar disorder — a never-before-mentioned complication. Her sentence was subsequently reduced to five years probation. About a week after her release, Richardson was on the stage at the voting rights rally and getting a hug from Al Sharpton. Naturally, county Republicans criticized the Richardson’s inclusion at the event. But Hamilton County Democratic Party Chairman Tim Burke also called it “particularly problematic.” Bobby Hilton, the president of NAN’s Greater Cincinnati Chapter, in desperate spin mode, tried to deflect the bipartisan outrage by telling the Cincinnati Enquirer: “We did not celebrate or applaud a convicted felon. We congratulated a lady with health issues coming home to take care of her sick sister.” If that’s true, isn’t there a health care event at which Richardson could be celebrated? To even acknowledge someone convicted of vote fraud among the crowd at such an event is unseemly. Bringing that person up to share the stage with distinguished guests — and for one of the leading critics of polling place protections to hug them — is just plain wrong. In January, on his “PoliticsNation” program on MSNBC, Sharpton likened voter ID to a poll tax and claimed its supporters “have not been able to come up with any widespread fraud in any of the states that are passing these laws.” To the contrary, Al, you’ve embraced the problem. Cherylyn Harley LeBon is co-chairman of the Project 21 black leadership network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, SnowRider said: You’re a total hack if you don’t believe deliberate and targeted voter suppression is happening. Former Pennsylvania Congressman sentenced for election fraud [WHTM - Harrisburg, PA - 9/27/2022] Former U.S. Congressman Michael “Ozzie” Myers, 79, of Philadelphia was sentenced to 30 months in prison after pleading guilty to stuffing ballot boxes for Democrats in the 2014-18 Pennsylvania elections. The U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania says Myers admitted in court to bribing the Judge of Elections for the 39th Ward, 36th Division in South Philadelphia in a fraudulent scheme over several years. Officials say Myers would solicit payments from his clients in the form of cash or checks as “consulting fees,” and then use portions of these funds to pay election officials to tamper with election results. The fact that “election officials” is plural is not lost on me. You can rest assured that the 39th Ward is not the one and only place this happened. Myers pleaded guilty in June to conspiracy to deprive voters of civil rights, bribery, obstruction of justice, falsification of voting records, and conspiring to illegally vote in a federal election for orchestrating schemes to fraudulently stuff the ballot boxes for specific Democratic candidates in the 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 Pennsylvania elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, SkisNH said: We have a system for absentee ballots that is safe and secure...even if they don't drive they have I.D They need I.D for every Doctors appointment. To get a mailbox, to get library card etc.. such a weak argument that we can't to paper ballots. Especially when you surrender you DL you are issued a non-DL id on the spot. You also need ID to buy things, get a legit paying taxes job, get a bank account, get a credit card..Their argument is so weak but Stacy Abrahams told them to believe this so it's full court press..I couldn't imagine being so frigging stupid to actually think in today's day and age a government ID is hard to get..Fuck my kids had state issued ID's at 5 years old..Took me about 20min to get.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) I think the days of photo ID card’s being the gold standard are waning. Too easy to fake, too easy to mis-identify and say the photo doesn’t match even by trained law enforcement let alone poll workers. Instead, I’d like to see implanted chips with your encrypted identification embedded in them that poll workers can scan to make the positive ID. R’s would probably be reluctant though. I can hear the whimpers of voter suppression now. Sad. Edited May 30, 2023 by Plissken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, SnowRider said: You’re a total hack if you don’t believe deliberate and targeted voter suppression is happening. Ok Stacey Abrams. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I have no issue with voter ID, but there’s a fairly large part of the population over 18 that don’t have one. Each party knows who that is and pushes for or against it depending on how they perceive it will affect them. No different than both parties gerrymandering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICG Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 It's not fraud, or wrong if you're a Dumbocrat. . . . Buying drinks near the poll, the dead voting...it's been a way of life since The Tweed Administration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, SkisNH said: Everyone has I.D don't be obtuse No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, SkisNH said: Didn't say otherwise....although it didn't help PA when their state constitution disallowed mail in ballots. People are beating down the door to get into PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 39 minutes ago, akvanden said: I have no issue with voter ID, but there’s a fairly large part of the population over 18 that don’t have one. Each party knows who that is and pushes for or against it depending on how they perceive it will affect them. No different than both parties gerrymandering. Oh really? How big of a large part? You know this how? Democrats constantly push for weakening electoral integrity under the bullshit guise of "voter suppression" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, spin_dry said: People are beating down the door to get into PA. Whoosh....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 They should cancel all ballot locations and go virtual and create a real system to do that. This antiquated show up in person shit is stupid. I am legally registered to vote and see zero reason it makes any sense to do it in person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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