Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, airflite1 said: I think solar farms are a waste, rooftop I'm interested in doing. BuTmY2FeeToFsNOw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 One 200w solar panel produces .8 kWh daily. here’s the average for power company generation. Do the math for over a 25 year run. Coal–0.90 kWh/pound Natural gas–0.14 kWh/cubic foot Petroleum liquids–12.86 kWh/gallon Petroleum coke–1.25 kWh/pound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: No I never said they did, I just pointed out not everything is the same everywhere, I'm also not trying to push people into my life style and justifying it to myself ... It's almost as creepy as trying to sell someone to being gay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, spin_dry said: More big oil propaganda. What the article fails to mention is how many tons of coal or units of natural gas a panel replaces in its 25 year life cycle. 25 years is the warranty.. they still produce power after that 25 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 Easy two feet of snow where I lived outside of Boise, ID and Ogden, UT before that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Easy two feet of snow where I lived outside of Boise, ID and Ogden, UT before that Ya. The panels shed it easy. My roof this year the panels were clean while the rest of the roof took awhile to clean up. In our mountain country such as McCall there is a lot of metal roofs to shed the snow. They are pretty clean of snow most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, airflite1 said: I think solar farms are a waste, rooftop I'm interested in doing. I like roof top also, I'd like to see these farms they are cutting down woodland to build be put on roof tops, lots of flat warehouse roofs in my area, but like I said, snow comes into play 6 months a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Rigid1 said: I like roof top also, I'd like to see these farms they are cutting down woodland to build be put on roof tops, lots of flat warehouse roofs in my area, but like I said, snow comes into play 6 months a year The earth is warming, soon there won't be any snow!!! They're planning ahead!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, BOHICA said: BuTmY2FeeToFsNOw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Ya. The panels shed it easy. My roof this year the panels were clean while the rest of the roof took awhile to clean up. In our mountain country such as McCall there is a lot of metal roofs to shed the snow. They are pretty clean of snow most of the time. I hated shoveling the roof of the A Frame I lived in Mancelona, MI That lake effect snow gets heavy and sticky. Total opposite of snow in Utah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Skidooski said: I hated shoveling the roof of the A Frame I lived in Mancelona, MI That lake effect snow gets heavy and sticky. Total opposite of snow in Utah Metal roof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: I like roof top also, I'd like to see these farms they are cutting down woodland to build be put on roof tops, lots of flat warehouse roofs in my area, but like I said, snow comes into play 6 months a year On large flat roofs they typically mount panels at south facing angle in snow country. Shed snow just fine in snow country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Steve753 said: The earth is warming, soon there won't be any snow!!! They're planning ahead!!!! I think you're right? Gore just missed it by a few years is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 Just now, irv said: I think you're right? Gore just missed it by a few years is all. Typical weatherman, always wrong! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: On large flat roofs they typically mount panels at south facing angle in snow country. Shed snow just fine in snow country Ours are off the ground/roof about 4-5 foot so the snow won't pile up and block the panel..That's a piss poor design for snow country, get a few feet of snow in a day and half that panel would be covered..Who ever designed that for snow country is an idiot, I think you could even see that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, BOHICA said: Metal roof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favoritos Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 hours ago, airflite1 said: I think solar farms are a waste, rooftop I'm interested in doing. I sorta agree. Solar farms are basically industrial solar facilities that take up a lot of land. Every dang building in the world already needs a roof. Most of the roofing material we use is already landfill crap in 20-30 years. Just make the roof material solar. Heck, if they could figure out a method to rework the stuff, it would be even better. We have family that lives in an area that builds homes a little differently. Part of their building schematic includes conduit and open runs that go right to the roof. Putting solar on top is pretty damn easy. One interesting aspect of their systems is the type of solar they use. The colder environment homes use water panels as the primary source of heating and PV as supplement power. The homes don't have AC and heating is the largest draw, so they use water as direct source. It is more efficient without converting solar to electric and then back to heating. It also helps keep the big corporate power players out of their pockets with every ounce of energy in the home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, favoritos said: I sorta agree. Solar farms are basically industrial solar facilities that take up a lot of land. Every dang building in the world already needs a roof. Most of the roofing material we use is already landfill crap in 20-30 years. Just make the roof material solar. Heck, if they could figure out a method to rework the stuff, it would be even better. We have family that lives in an area that builds homes a little differently. Part of their building schematic includes conduit and open runs that go right to the roof. Putting solar on top is pretty damn easy. One interesting aspect of their systems is the type of solar they use. The colder environment homes use water panels as the primary source of heating and PV as supplement power. The homes don't have AC and heating is the largest draw, so they use water as direct source. It is more efficient without converting solar to electric and then back to heating. It also helps keep the big corporate power players out of their pockets with every ounce of energy in the home. Yup, they built this facility to power an apartment complex, the solar farm is 3x the size of the complex and can only provide 40-60% of it's usage, this was a beautiful wooded area that people hunted on, hiked on, snowmobiled on, and ATV on up the street from my house,..now it's clear cut, fenced in, and not usable for anything but solar.. SMH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Yup, they built this facility to power an apartment complex, the solar farm is 3x the size of the complex and can only provide 40-60% of it's usage, this was a beautiful wooded area that people hunted on, hiked on, snowmobiled on, and ATV on up the street from my house,..now it's clear cut, fenced in, and not usable for anything but solar.. SMH Weird. Wisconsin uses out of commission farmland for wind farms. There’s a lot of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 Just now, spin_dry said: Weird. Wisconsin uses out of commission farmland for wind farms. There’s a lot of it. Our farmers grow crops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Our farmers grow crops Out of commission farm land? What the fuck is that? These cultist just make shit up as they go along. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted July 17, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Woodtick said: Out of commission farm land? What the fuck is that? These cultist just make shit up as they go along. Well it's Spinner, so kinda on par.. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Our farmers grow crops 4500 acres were unused by farmers in Dane county. The farmers contracted with a Chicago energy firm for solar farms. Now they get to enjoy their retirement. It’s a growing trend in Wisconsin. Same with leasing land for wind turbines. I’ve never heard if cutting down a forest to put up a wind farm when there’s so much cleared land already available. Just sounds counterproductive. Cuts into margins. Edited July 17, 2022 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 52 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Weird. Wisconsin uses out of commission farmland for wind farms. There’s a lot of it. Where at? Saw 1 in East Troy some years back, gone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Where at? Saw 1 in East Troy some years back, gone now. It’s thpin. He makes up almost everything he says 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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