Jerry 976 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 The US Government 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Yes - Fauxi should be in jail & then hung. He blocked effective treatments that could have saved countless lives. the best at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Mag6240 said: And why would we? Wouldn’t “natural immunity” be people NOT getting sick nor needing a hospital visit?? No stats at the CDC for those correct?? If natural immunity is more robust, eventually you’d see unvaccinated rates of hospitalization, cases, etc, lower than vaccinated. We’re not seeing that currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, akvanden said: If natural immunity is more robust, eventually you’d see unvaccinated rates of hospitalization, cases, etc, lower than vaccinated. We’re not seeing that currently. Wait a second, perhaps you mis-understood. Why would you see ANY rates of hospitalization, for people with natural immunity? Wouldn't it be more plausible that you WOULD NOT see them in the hospital? How would they become a statistic at this point? I don't see how people NOT showing up at the hospital would have anything to do with any rates, at the hospitals. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, akvanden said: If natural immunity is more robust, eventually you’d see unvaccinated rates of hospitalization, cases, etc, lower than vaccinated. We’re not seeing that currently. If the vaccines work you would have seen a drop in deaths this year vs last. We are not seeing that currently. Take off the fucking blinders peeps. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Mag6240 said: Wait a second, perhaps you mis-understood. Why would you see ANY rates of hospitalization, for people with natural immunity? Wouldn't it be more plausible that you WOULD NOT see them in the hospital? How would they become a statistic at this point? I don't see how people NOT showing up at the hospital would have anything to do with any rates, at the hospitals. Is there even a single case of someone with natural immunity getting re-infected? Well CDC can't seem to find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Is there even a single case of someone with natural immunity getting re-infected? Well CDC can't seem to find one. Oh they are not even looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mag6240 said: Wait a second, perhaps you mis-understood. Why would you see ANY rates of hospitalization, for people with natural immunity? Wouldn't it be more plausible that you WOULD NOT see them in the hospital? How would they become a statistic at this point? I don't see how people NOT showing up at the hospital would have anything to do with any rates, at the hospitals. Can we assume the unvaccinated population and those natural immunity are synonymous? If herd immunity is a real thing, it has to be at some point, right? If so, then we can use the unvaccinated vs vaccinated rates. If we know the rate in each of those populations that are going to hospital, then we also know how many are not going. Currently, there's a disparity between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: If the vaccines work you would have seen a drop in deaths this year vs last. We are not seeing that currently. Take off the fucking blinders peeps. Really, so the dominant variant is the same YoY? Oh wait it's not, and ones more contagious and severe than the other, but you knew that already. If the vaccines work, you'd see a rate difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Oh wait, there is a large difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Oh they are not even looking. Why when they already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, akvanden said: Really, so the dominant variant is the same YoY? Oh wait it's not, and ones more contagious and severe than the other, but you knew that already. If the vaccines work, you'd see a rate difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Oh wait, there is a large difference. Again this ain't about a virus. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 13 hours ago, EvilBird said: the Biden voter speaks Imagine being an adult and biting for Biden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 17 hours ago, Carlos Danger said: watching this exchange will make you want to throw a brick at your computer. It’s the complete lack of open discussion that’s causing all the skepticism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, ACE said: Imagine being an adult and biting for Biden Imagine being a Canadian who’s so concerned about another countries politics and policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, akvanden said: Imagine being a Canadian who’s so concerned about another countries politics and policies. But muh collusion! 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildMann Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, akvanden said: It’s easy to criticize, but not as easy to be right all of the time. ” At the current trajectory, I expect Covid will be mostly gone by April, allowing Americans to resume normal life.” https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731 (He’s the one being interviewed by Jim) Is that last April, this coming April, or 5 years from now April? Be specific please. Edited December 20, 2021 by WildMann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, akvanden said: Can we assume the unvaccinated population and those natural immunity are synonymous? If herd immunity is a real thing, it has to be at some point, right? If so, then we can use the unvaccinated vs vaccinated rates. If we know the rate in each of those populations that are going to hospital, then we also know how many are not going. Currently, there's a disparity between the two. This is where the fog comes in, at least for me. How many people were convinced to go get a shot, that probably did have natural immunity? We obviously will never know. And then the people that did get the Covid early on, but still decided to get a shot, that they probably didn't need since they already had the Covid, and their bodies have gotten smarter to now provide that natural immunity? Again, we will never know. As for heard immunity, I would think that would cover Unvaxxed Natural Immunity, as well as now Vaxxed Immunity, would it not? I mean, you either have immunity naturally, or you got a shot to try and get some. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, WildMann said: Is that last April, this coming April, or 5 years from now April? Be specific please. I suppose you’d have to read the article to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 16 hours ago, akvanden said: It’s easy to criticize, but not as easy to be right all of the time. ” At the current trajectory, I expect Covid will be mostly gone by April, allowing Americans to resume normal life.” https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731 (He’s the one being interviewed by Jim) Not even a question of being right like most here have pointed out many times tge deception and hidding of any and all information is what makes any one who can think not trust a fucking word any one in tge agency put out or the parrots who repeate it to tge lemming hr after hr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Triple vaxxed now told to stay away from double vaxxed. Again we told you so. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 20, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, akvanden said: Imagine being a Canadian who’s so concerned about another countries politics and policies. And thats the best part. He is Canadian and still knows pedo Biden is a disgrace. What is your excuse cupcake? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 9 hours ago, akvanden said: This was last April, not this coming. Just merely saying. For all those that criticize Fauci and others for not getting things correct all the time, neither do the ones casting stones. Natural immunity is a real thing, should be studied, etc. Not seeing that in the current hospitalization rates though. It’s not about a virus McFly. Hasn’t been since April…….of 2020. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 20 hours ago, Mainecat said: He’s going to jail soon. Lmfao, no he's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted December 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Carlos Danger said: Oh they are not even looking. Not even in the slightest bit. Is everyone's immune system exactly the same?? Nope, not at all, but let's vax them as if they are the same..Follow the science they say... SMH.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 21 hours ago, Mainecat said: He’s going to jail soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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