Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 6, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Sludgey said: See the OP. 6.2 decimates the competition. The rest are running with the 5.3 ya its an old 2016 comparo... Not a 2017... Much has been updated in 2017 from various manufactures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just now, BOHICA said: ya its an old 2016 comparo... Not a 2017... Much has been updated in 2017 from various manufactures Still not convinced it'll be enough to run with gm's old tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Wow, that is now his bitch. How about this one, gotta hurt the stang pride. Not at all. But if it makes you feel better, go with it I guess 53 minutes ago, BOHICA said: wonder when they are going to test the 2017's since this is an old comparison Pout Fudgy 13 minutes ago, Sludgey said: What's different? MORE Fudgy cluelessness. BIG SHOCKER! 13 minutes ago, Sludgey said: Imagine how lazy the hemi is then My '11 FX4 5.0 DESTROYED my brothers friends Ram Hemi with 3.92 gears. I thought it was going to be a close race. Lol, NOT 9 minutes ago, Sludgey said: So really nothing to make up the big gap SMH Pour Fudgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 6, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sludgey said: Still not convinced it'll be enough to run with gm's old tech the old 3.5 is older tech then the gm 6.2. The newer 2.7 is faster then the 6.2 gm. the new 3.5 in the oversized raptor is faster then the gm 6.2. http://www.tfltruck.com/tfltruck-hall-of-solo-0-60-mph/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Gm is circling the toilet bowl. Good for them but I doubt if they will even be in business in 10 years. Just a distant memory. SBYL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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02sled Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sludgey said: They did loaded and unloaded tests. Who cares! Loaded or unloaded! I still don't buy a truck based on accelerating a fraction of a second faster over a quarter mile. Totally irrelevant. Who in their right mind would sit at the lights with a load of lumber or bricks and be concerned with their ability to squeal the tires. Maybe a total fool. I wonder why they didn't compare the performance of the production Ford Raptor to the GM. Maybe they knew the GM would become an embarrassment. Edited January 6, 2017 by 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rw06GT Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I've seen a few of the new f250 and f350's on the road now. Fuck are they ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, 02sled said: Who cares! Loaded or unloaded! I still don't buy a truck based on accelerating a fraction of a second faster over a quarter mile. Totally irrelevant. Who in their right mind would sit at the lights with a load of lumber or bricks and be concerned with their ability to squeal the tires. Maybe a total fool. Morons like Fudgy 9 minutes ago, 02sled said: I wonder why they didn't compare the performance of the production Ford Raptor to the GM. Maybe they knew the GM would become an embarrassment. Because Gubernment Motors doesn't have anything even close to being able to compete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Im a life long GM guy and when I drove the 2015 GMC with the 5.3 it wasnt even in the same league as the Ram HEMI. In fact the rest of the truck was no match for the Ram. It was a no brainer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: the old 3.5 is older tech then the gm 6.2. The newer 2.7 is faster then the 6.2 gm. the new 3.5 in the oversized raptor is faster then the gm 6.2. http://www.tfltruck.com/tfltruck-hall-of-solo-0-60-mph/ I bought the 2.7 this summer. Wasn't my plan when I looked at them but took one for a drive thinking it was the 3.5 EB and was amazed at the power. Wasn't until I got back from the test drive that I found out it was a 2.7. still hate the sound of it though lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Sludgey said: Turd but smokes the ram and toyotah somehow. So what's the real turd? Read below. Like I mentioned earlier, that link/info was paid for by GM or there was something going on with them that aren't part of their normal production models. Like I told you a couple years ago, my 13 Ram would simply embarrass that POS 5.3 I owned, and get better gas milage while doing so. Like Analer stated, the Ram is in another league. How many links/info due you require to accept the fact the 5.3 is a turd and should have never went into production? Besides it being a Turd, what about all the other problems that engine has like using oil, the AMF issue, etc, etc, etc? Accept it Sludgey, it's a dog. Read these if you dare? There right from the horses mouth and not some fabbed up/B.S. article like you posted. http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=275099 http://www.silveradosierra.com/vortec-5-3l-v8/a-very-sluggish-5-3-t14142.html http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/77609-2008-53-motor-under-powered/ http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168791-why-i-hate-my-2014-sierra/ http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/82578-53l-seams-weak/ http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/gm-engine-exhaust-performance-21/help-gutless-05-5-3l-278168/ 6 hours ago, MSAREV said: The 5.3 is a turd. NO Torque still - Fucking terrible throttle response - i've had my 2015 looked at for the Slow throttle response and all they do is give me a copy of a bulletin and say its "Normal" - transmission shifts turtle slow....should i continue? Looks like i should have gone 6.2 - doesn't it require Premium Fuel ? This has been my 6th 5.3 in a GM Truck....hopefully my last. Wow - this article is a year old. Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Just for you, Sludgey. "The throttle position vs throttle opening calibration also sucks. It takes way too much pedal to get the truck moving. Several friends and family member have bought new trucks this year - none were GM, they all bought Rams. Interestingly enough, all test drove either the Silverado or Sierra and didn't buy them. The main reason was the Ram felt much more powerful. They told me the GMs felt sluggish or slow. I recently drove a 2015 Hemi and It doesn't have the throttle response issues anywhere near as bad. Part throttle was night and day different than my Sierra. At wide open throttle the Ram was faster, but not substantially so. I can see why my friends and family rejected the GM" http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168791-why-i-hate-my-2014-sierra/ Hard to imagine these same issues still exist today. My only regret is I didn't read about them before I bought my 09. Call it blind faith, and despite the few issue I had with my 97, I thought my 09 would be similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 8 hours ago, BOHICA said: the old 3.5 is older tech then the gm 6.2. The newer 2.7 is faster then the 6.2 gm. the new 3.5 in the oversized raptor is faster then the gm 6.2. http://www.tfltruck.com/tfltruck-hall-of-solo-0-60-mph/ So the Ford is heavily updated with new tech but it's old tech. So since the 6.2 destroys it then what you're saying is it will continue to do so. Got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, irv said: Just for you, Sludgey. "The throttle position vs throttle opening calibration also sucks. It takes way too much pedal to get the truck moving. Several friends and family member have bought new trucks this year - none were GM, they all bought Rams. Interestingly enough, all test drove either the Silverado or Sierra and didn't buy them. The main reason was the Ram felt much more powerful. They told me the GMs felt sluggish or slow. I recently drove a 2015 Hemi and It doesn't have the throttle response issues anywhere near as bad. Part throttle was night and day different than my Sierra. At wide open throttle the Ram was faster, but not substantially so. I can see why my friends and family rejected the GM" http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168791-why-i-hate-my-2014-sierra/ Hard to imagine these same issues still exist today. My only regret is I didn't read about them before I bought my 09. Call it blind faith, and despite the few issue I had with my 97, I thought my 09 would be similar. You seen that your precious hemi got beat by a turd 5.3 right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 7, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sludgey said: So the Ford is heavily updated with new tech but it's old tech. So since the 6.2 destroys it then what you're saying is it will continue to do so. Got it 6.2 losses to the 2.7. The 3.5 in the test you post was last decade tech. The GM 6.2 was the newest motor in the test. 2017 is a new more powah 3.5 ecoboost. The new raptor dominates the chevy 6.2 in ever metric. Powah, torque, speed all on 35 inch offroad tires vs the drag radials they put on the GM trucks. thanks Playing and losing sludgey!!!!! Edited January 7, 2017 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 7, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 700 pages of people coming out of their own pocket to fix the horrible vibration in GM pickups. They have spent alot of money trying to get their trucks right without much help from GMhttp://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/153186-shake-or-vibration-issues/page-695. Edited January 7, 2017 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, Sludgey said: You seen that your precious hemi got beat by a turd 5.3 right I see, that even after all these years you're still in denial and you will go to great lengths to find one lone tidbit, among all the negative truths/facts, that use unfair means and lies to showcase the product you blindly praise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 With TX so close to Mexico GM had home field advantage . fast or not still junk for soft hand shake truck buyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Zambroski said: IDGAF....Tundra for the fucking win bitches! I had an 07 Tundra Crewmax, and from what i'm reading, that power train is still more than equal to most any motor out there, 10 years later. Did 0-60 in the high 6's, and towed like a bitch even back then. 9 hours ago, 02sled said: Who cares! Loaded or unloaded! I still don't buy a truck based on accelerating a fraction of a second faster over a quarter mile. Totally irrelevant. Who in their right mind would sit at the lights with a load of lumber or bricks and be concerned with their ability to squeal the tires. Maybe a total fool. I wonder why they didn't compare the performance of the production Ford Raptor to the GM. Maybe they knew the GM would become an embarrassment. Exactly. Torque rules. 9 hours ago, Rw06GT said: I've seen a few of the new f250 and f350's on the road now. Fuck are they ugly. Honestly, they've been growing on me. 925 lbs. of torque and 445 hp is pretty unbelievable power compared to my old 95 and 99 Powerstrokers. Edited January 7, 2017 by DriftBusta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted January 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2017 15 hours ago, Anler said: Im a life long GM guy and when I drove the 2015 GMC with the 5.3 it wasnt even in the same league as the Ram HEMI. In fact the rest of the truck was no match for the Ram. It was a no brainer... Finally something other then the Ford vs Chevy shit we get nonstop from the same 3 people over and over and over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 17 hours ago, 02sled said: Who cares! Loaded or unloaded! I still don't buy a truck based on accelerating a fraction of a second faster over a quarter mile. Totally irrelevant. Who in their right mind would sit at the lights with a load of lumber or bricks and be concerned with their ability to squeal the tires. Maybe a total fool. I wonder why they didn't compare the performance of the production Ford Raptor to the GM. Maybe they knew the GM would become an embarrassment. I could just use the rear bumper of my F150 to satisfy my towing needs, but at the time I was looking (2010), I wanted a 6.5' bed and a centre console/third seat, Ford stood alone unless I went up to a 250. Now they all have them so it would be a toss between F150 and Ram. 17 hours ago, Rw06GT said: I've seen a few of the new f250 and f350's on the road now. Fuck are they ugly. I like them, in fact they all look pretty good, but many times that's the deciding factor as most of these trucks are way under utilized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Holy fuck Toyler Buttcocks got owned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: Holy fuck Toyler Buttcocks got owned To the maximum max!!! Meet behind Sandy's sub shop!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 21 hours ago, Sludgey said: Still not convinced it'll be enough to run with gm's old tech yep those taco benders can build a truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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