Ziemann Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 hours ago, mnstang said: Nobody ever said they didn't want to sell. They are responsibly limiting sales orders to what production can handle. Any objective person would think that's a good move for all. But that's not you and the other haters here. If cat was so bad you could think of actual bad things to slam them for. You guys are mental midgets. I'll own the Mental Midget title if you own the Ramstad Family title......... I am sure that you're right. They are forced to limit production, but probably don't want to limit production. My guess is that they no longer have the materials and supplier relationships needed to produce a large number of sleds. Supplier have probably moved on from Cat. I'm sure Fox was more than happy to sell a record number of Fox QS3 shocks to Polaris. It's loud and clear that they're not committed to sleds and could care less whether they sell more sleds. They're obviously not putting a whole lot of effort in to it. I must have missed the part of the '22 sled reveal where they went over the ZR & RR or 60th Anniversary Editions..... At least they cleaned up the work shop where they did their '22 sled reveal. When cat was in their prime, they could produce A LOT of sleds in Thief River Falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I agree with @Deephaven A ton of us would still be on Cat if they actually cared about snowmobiles and their core ZR/RR trail riding market. There were 3 choices: 1. Buy a Blast 2. Buy a ThunderCat with Power Steering (Yamaha had that idea 10 years ago for their ill handling 4 strokes) 3. Buy the same old damn ZR/RR that they have been offering for years Gee, thanks for the exciting options..... *yawn* I am sad to see Cat in this condition in the market. I would have gladly ordered a new '22 if they could have offered something that I actually wanted ( maybe something different that the last 5 sleds I've purchased?). They neglected me as a customer and I'm pissed. I bought 29 new Cats for my wife and I since 1990, but my patience had a limit.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Ziemann said: The good news is that it is an easy job..... You only need to know one color..... He'll do good as long as he wears his special glasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Ziemann said: I'll own the Mental Midget title if you own the Ramstad Family title......... I am sure that you're right. They are forced to limit production, but probably don't want to limit production. My guess is that they no longer have the materials and supplier relationships needed to produce a large number of sleds. Supplier have probably moved on from Cat. I'm sure Fox was more than happy to sell a record number of Fox QS3 shocks to Polaris. It's loud and clear that they're not committed to sleds and could care less whether they sell more sleds. They're obviously not putting a whole lot of effort in to it. I must have missed the part of the '22 sled reveal where they went over the ZR & RR or 60th Anniversary Editions..... At least they cleaned up the work shop where they did their '22 sled reveal. When cat was in their prime, they could produce A LOT of sleds in Thief River Falls. I agree with this part combined with how fucked the manufacturing is currently because of covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 12 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Are you good at picking out colors? If so... You're hired! I really liked the primer gray from my 2017 and 2018 race sleds. It was a bitch to keep the exhaust side clean though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 19 hours ago, Ziemann said: I agree with @Deephaven A ton of us would still be on Cat if they actually cared about snowmobiles and their core ZR/RR trail riding market. There were 3 choices: 1. Buy a Blast 2. Buy a ThunderCat with Power Steering (Yamaha had that idea 10 years ago for their ill handling 4 strokes) 3. Buy the same old damn ZR/RR that they have been offering for years Gee, thanks for the exciting options..... *yawn* I am sad to see Cat in this condition in the market. I would have gladly ordered a new '22 if they could have offered something that I actually wanted ( maybe something different that the last 5 sleds I've purchased?). They neglected me as a customer and I'm pissed. I bought 29 new Cats for my wife and I since 1990, but my patience had a limit.... Nothing new or special for the dirt segment either. Country Cat and other dealers are smartly taking on Kawasaki. @Not greg b 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Nothing new or special for the dirt segment either. Country Cat and other dealers are smartly taking on Kawasaki. @Not greg b Nope! Ramstad says he's never seen a kawi atv riding around.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sled_Hed said: Nope! Ramstad says he's never seen a kawi atv riding around.... Just like he says he sees packs of blasts ripping the trail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Just like he says he sees packs of blasts ripping the trail. That's why I asked him what dome he lives in where there is no new polaris or doo sleds on the trail or no kawi's. Besides the cats don't have any problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Jim Ramstad's idea of Cat innovation: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Ziemann said: Jim Ramstad's idea of Cat innovation: Was that picture taken in the middle of Bumfucknowhere MN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Was that picture taken in the middle of Bumfucknowhere MN? Ramstad City. Where nothing but Arctic Cats roam free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Was that picture taken in the middle of Bumfucknowhere MN? No. To many hills spaced closely together. 2 hours ago, Doug said: Ramstad City. Where nothing but Arctic Cats roam free. More commonly known as dumbshit city. Edited April 21, 2021 by Deephaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Deephaven said: No. To many hills spaced closely together. More commonly known as dumbshit city. Where the cats are green and the blasts run freely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Who is this "Ramstad" guy? I know people at Cat still and haven't heard of him. I know a lot more former Cat employees, that being said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, racinfarmer said: Who is this "Ramstad" guy? I know people at Cat still and haven't heard of him. I know a lot more former Cat employees, that being said. the defender of Arctic Cat https://www.hardcoresledder.com/members/jim_ramstad-yahoo-com.441570/#latest-activity he's on @Bontz's bowling team and is @Zambroski's third cousin once removed on his mom's side. Edited April 22, 2021 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, racinfarmer said: Who is this "Ramstad" guy? I know people at Cat still and haven't heard of him. I know a lot more former Cat employees, that being said. We call him ram rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Also crn2crn slapped sponsure ship grfixs on my car. Fucker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: the defender of Arctic Cat https://www.hardcoresledder.com/members/jim_ramstad-yahoo-com.441570/#latest-activity he's on @Bontz's bowling team and is @Zambroski's third cousin once removed on his mom's side. He reminds me of Tricky Ricky. Wait, does he have his own clutch kit too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Not greg b said: Also crn2crn slapped sponsure ship grfixs on my car. Fucker Wait until I get the primer gray wrap that's on backorder with no eta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: He reminds me of Tricky Ricky. Wait, does he have his own clutch kit too? Only for the Blast but it does beat all the 850's and turbo plus all the factory teams are running it. No need for any other clutch kit. Tested it with a Potty tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: the defender of Arctic Cat https://www.hardcoresledder.com/members/jim_ramstad-yahoo-com.441570/#latest-activity he's on @Bontz's bowling team and is @Zambroski's third cousin once removed on his mom's side. Well, he certainly talks enough bullshit to fit on the bowling team. I don't know if his liver could survive with the crew I "roll with" though - you gotta be a real trained professional!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Doug said: Only for the Blast but it does beat all the 850's and turbo plus all the factory teams are running it. No need for any other clutch kit. Tested it with a Potty tree Yeah it’s a steal. It’s less than 10 cents for his clutch mod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Sorry it’s 12 cents. My god http://www.arcticinsider.com/Article/TECH-TIP-How-To-Tune-Your-Blast-for-12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 4:41 PM, Zambroski said: I believe this is true. Poo and Doo are running limits also if I understand it correctly. Textron probably didn't care enough to order in mass like the other two. Poo is limiting what a dealer can order to sell in season to like 36 total units. Sales guys are sniveling but tough to feel sorry for those guys after the yr they had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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