f7ben Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 55 minutes ago, Wildboer said: That's what I said, the Mach Z is a gimmick to introduce that engine to the lineup. It’s been in the lineup for 2 years already lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, f7ben said: It’s been in the lineup for 2 years already lol no shit, not sure what he's talking about. The tune is new and the shocks. This was covered yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) now I am hearing rumors of etecs is being slowly dying, which explains why we are seeing more ACES motor options, NA , 130 , 150 and 180 HP options , BRP already killed their 2S outboards , not saying 2022 could be the last year 2S options for the sled but may be getting close getting axed. Edited February 19, 2021 by Beavis and Butt-Head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Beavis and Butt-Head said: now I am hearing rumors of etecs is being slowly dying, which explains why we are seeing more ACES motor options, NA , 130 , 150 and 180 HP options , BRP already killed their 2S outboards , not saying 2022 could be the last year for etech motors for the sled but may be getting close getting axed. They just came out with a new 600 EFI 2 stroke for the 500 class with the 900 NA. They will still need the 850 for the mountains. Evinrude ETEC was cancel cultured completely. They are probably positioning themselves for the future, unlike Polaris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Fireball 440 said: They just came out with a new 600 EFI 2 stroke for the 500 class with the 900 NA. They will still need the 850 for the mountains. Evinrude ETEC was cancel cultured completely. They are probably positioning themselves for the future, unlike Polaris. Polaris just did a deal with zero motorcycles. Apparently they’re skipping the 4 strokes and going right to electric.😮😮😮 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Edmo said: Polaris just did a deal with zero motorcycles. Apparently they’re skipping the 4 strokes and going right to electric.😮😮😮 No thanks for this guy , its hard enough as it is just to find premium non ethanol gas on trails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Beavis and Butt-Head said: No thanks for this guy , its hard enough as it is just to find premium non ethanol gas on trails. Not saying I like it...but this is what’s up. The battery systems lose a lot of range in the cold weather. I don’t know how they’re going to give you decent range with current technology. Will be interesting to see what they come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Fireball 440 said: They just came out with a new 600 EFI 2 stroke for the 500 class with the 900 NA. They will still need the 850 for the mountains. Evinrude ETEC was cancel cultured completely. They are probably positioning themselves for the future, unlike Polaris. The irony with the Evinrude outboards is that they quit just as boat sales went way up. If they held on for a few more months they might have been ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Mandatory Ethanol will kill 2 stroke production Be interesting to learn about the "Cable Throttle Housing" on every model of the 900R. My 2016 eventually went back to BRP over the drive by wire that couldn't be fixed and I haven't owned a DBW since. The Mach with a production Anti-Lag motor is pretty impressive, hopefully it ain't tin foil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Ethanol is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted February 19, 2021 Taiga’s are going be much quicker then the new Mach z’s with launch control engaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Edmo said: Not saying I like it...but this is what’s up. The battery systems lose a lot of range in the cold weather. I don’t know how they’re going to give you decent range with current technology. Will be interesting to see what they come up with. If they can get decent range out of one they are going to rule. Think about the mountain guys. Not only no loss of power but gobs more power and torque AND lighter. Trail sleds with a 200 mile range would be the shizz too. I mean I'll miss the sound and the smell of 2 stroke on all of my gear but would be some wicked machines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Anler said: If they can get decent range out of one they are going to rule. Think about the mountain guys. Not only no loss of power but gobs more power and torque AND lighter. Trail sleds with a 200 mile range would be the shizz too. I mean I'll miss the sound and the smell of 2 stroke on all of my gear but would be some wicked machines They could lower and further center the mass too....could improve handling significantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: They could lower and further center the mass too....could improve handling significantly Oh yeah the potential is huge. battery range and availability of charging is the only issues I see right now. Lots less parts, No more coolant, pistons, pipes, oil, maybe even no more clutches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Anler said: Oh yeah the potential is huge. battery range and availability of charging is the only issues I see right now. Lots less parts, No more coolant, pistons, pipes, oil, maybe even no more clutches. For sure no more clutches and belts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, Anler said: If they can get decent range out of one they are going to rule. Think about the mountain guys. Not only no loss of power but gobs more power and torque AND lighter. Trail sleds with a 200 mile range would be the shizz too. I mean I'll miss the sound and the smell of 2 stroke on all of my gear but would be some wicked machines range anxiety would have me tweaking out by the side of the trail. Sunday i was figuring a 225 mile ride, 340 miles later i was back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: range anxiety would have me tweaking out by the side of the trail. Sunday i was figuring a 225 mile ride, 340 miles later i was back. Nothing sucks worse than looking at that last blinking bar as you feather the flipper hoping like hell you can make it. Suck city...and shit ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: range anxiety would have me tweaking out by the side of the trail. Sunday i was figuring a 225 mile ride, 340 miles later i was back. Think of all the money the bars and restaurant could make charging sleds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Nothing sucks worse than looking at that last blinking bar as you feather the flipper hoping like hell you can make it. Suck city...and shit ride. i had the gauge flashing heading to our first fuel stop for about 30 miles. i knew the gauge was off but even then i still worried a bit. Same when the oil light started flashing that night so i took us out of the way to grab a quart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Nothing sucks worse than looking at that last blinking bar as you feather the flipper hoping like hell you can make it. Suck city...and shit ride. Fuck my last etec would be hollering " low fuel!!!!" get to the pump and it only takes 6.5 gallons in a 10 gallon tank. Fucking hated that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Anler said: Think of all the money the bars and restaurant could make charging sleds... i don't go to bars when i ride and there is not a ton of them trailside in maine or NH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Angry ginger said: i don't go to bars when i ride and there is not a ton of them trailside in maine or NH. Well that sounds really gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Anler said: Fuck my last etec would be hollering " low fuel!!!!" get to the pump and it only takes 6.5 gallons in a 10 gallon tank. Fucking hated that my doo was better than my poo is. 8 gallons taken 30 miles after the gauge started flashing. Reminded me of how bad the Rev was with the compass in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Anler said: Well that sounds really gay. it's bad this year for stops with the Covid. planned on late breakfast sunday morning only to get there and have it be closed for the season. waited 30 minutes at a lunch stop since there was not much open as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Anler said: Well that sounds really gay. X1000000 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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