Angry ginger Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Anler said: That is a very nice looking machine. If it was only more Axys like I would be back on a skidoo next week. new front and rear suspension is prob going to be 10000x better than an axys. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snopro31 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: I should go buy that thing when i saw the add i was thinking hmmm that would be a nice sled to burn around the fields and lakes with (with a new under the hood and tunnel changes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: new front and rear suspension is prob going to be 10000x better than an axys. Now you just sound dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Wouldn't it be an ass kicker if Poo put a 140HP N/A and or a 200HP Turbo 4S in an AXYS chassis and none of that monkey bar wheelchair Polio crutches bullshit out back Edited February 13, 2020 by Tinker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Wildboer said: From Old Forge we can loop trail 6 to Boonville, chase the conditions basically anywhere on the Hill, and head back via brantingham and 10 mile crossing or vice versa. There's even a nice cutoff that brings you from Stillwater road to the midpoint of 10 mile crossing so you don't have to spend an eternity riding down an overtrafficed logging road anymore. They're so overloaded they shut down the builder, it gives you a "coming soon" message right now. It helps to know you’re way around for sure. I really never did. Just followed my buddies around. 2 hours ago, Woodtick said: I thought they would come out with something to compete with the Poo? 2 hours ago, f7ben said: Well the g4 will never be an axys, that’s for sure Dont kid yourself, the G4 is top of the heap right now. 3 minutes ago, snopro31 said: my expedition is perfect for what i use it for. and surprisingly it goes good on the trails for a 153. but i want something that was like my 1200 with a bit more kick. maybe that 1200 wont sell this winter here in town I put 260 miles on a 900 ace Expedition a couple years ago. I couldnt believe the pace I could carry on that lumber wagon. Forget getting stuck, that thing went almost anywhere. Great sled. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, DriftBusta said: It helps to know you’re way around for sure. I really never did. Just followed my buddies around. Dont kid yourself, the G4 is top of the heap right now. I put 260 miles on a 900 ace Expedition a couple years ago. I couldnt believe the pace I could carry on that lumber wagon. Forget getting stuck, that thing went almost anywhere. Great sled. Nah , I have thousands of miles on both and the axys is better. They are both so far ahead of cat though it’s ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, snopro31 said: when i saw the add i was thinking hmmm that would be a nice sled to burn around the fields and lakes with (with a new under the hood and tunnel changes) If they were 150ish hp I’d still have one for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Anler said: Now you just sound dumb Yeah. Ski doo had about the worst handling and suspension out of them all. I still can’t see their front end being that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 The Anys is for non-riders who need maximum forgiveness in their machine to cover their extreme shortfalls in riding talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, ACE said: Yeah. Ski doo had about the worst handling and suspension out of them all. I still can’t see their front end being that good Skidoos have always been twitchy, every one who rides skidoo knows this. Their front axle is in front of where you put your feet even. Thats just too far forward for great handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Zambroski said: The Anys is for non-riders who need maximum forgiveness in their machine to cover their extreme shortfalls in riding talent. Oh for sure. real riders ride out dated stuff that makes their chiropractors money cuz, MAGA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Anler said: Skidoos have always been twitchy, every one who rides skidoo knows this. Their front axle is in front of where you put your feet even. Thats just too far forward for great handling. I found the XP handled ok but you REALLY had to ride it. If you just sat up the front end was all over the place this cat rides a lot quicker, a lot easier. That front end just stays down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 “The Ski Doos are too twitchy.” “The Cats are too harsh.” ”The Anys is juuuuust ryte! Plus, SnowGoer stuff!!!” Sweet fuck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: new front and rear suspension is prob going to be 10000x better than an axys. The front suspension, no. Minor tweaks to geometry and a wider ski stance aren't going to make the G4 corner like an Axys. Doo needs to completely overhaul the front suspension the next time they come out with a new chassis. The redesigned rear skid looks extremely promising though. As good as the original rMotion is it still didn't address the fact that rider forward sleds put all the weight on the front arm. By focusing on the front end of the skid I think Doo could reclaim the title of undisputed best rear end in the industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, ACE said: I found the XP handled ok but you REALLY had to ride it. If you just sat up the front end was all over the place this cat rides a lot quicker, a lot easier. That front end just stays down. Rode them for 25 years and they ride good but have always been twitchy. AXYS is just a better chassis all around. Stronger, better ergos, better handling and most powerful engines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Wildboer said: The front suspension, no. Minor tweaks to geometry and a wider ski stance aren't going to make the G4 corner like an Axys. Doo needs to completely overhaul the front suspension the next time they come out with a new chassis. The redesigned rear skid looks extremely promising though. As good as the original rMotion is it still didn't address the fact that rider forward sleds put all the weight on the front arm. By focusing on the front end of the skid I think Doo could reclaim the title of undisputed best rear end in the industry. I havent seen it yet, what did they change to the rear suspension? If they didnt move the front arm mount back then it isnt going to handle better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snopro31 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, ACE said: If they were 150ish hp I’d still have one for sure I kinda regret selling my 1200. Was a fun sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Zambroski said: “The Ski Doos are too twitchy.” “The Cats are too harsh.” ”The Anys is juuuuust ryte! Plus, SnowGoer stuff!!!” Sweet fuck. I don’t find the RR too harsh at all. In fact the rear suspension is the best I’ve rode for being soft in the small bumps but not bottoming out in the harsh stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, snopro31 said: I kinda regret selling my 1200. Was a fun sled I liked that they were almost zero maintenance. Besides the primary clutch lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, ACE said: I don’t find the RR too harsh at all. In fact the rear suspension is the best I’ve rode for being soft in the small bumps but not bottoming out in the harsh stuff I’ve heard that about the new ones. They’ve been constantly refining the chassis for sure. But still, it’s still a race derived platform. That’s why it took so long and that’s also why it’s still not as forgiving as the Doo or Poo consumer chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: I don’t find the RR too harsh at all. In fact the rear suspension is the best I’ve rode for being soft in the small bumps but not bottoming out in the harsh stuff Zammy is just flying his retard flag extra high today. Pro cross is a good sled for short guys. And they ride fine now that they finally put good shocks on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Anler said: I havent seen it yet, what did they change to the rear suspension? If they didnt move the front arm mount back then it isnt going to handle better. They made the front arm longer and you can adjust its angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Anler said: Zammy is just flying his retard flag extra high today. Pro cross is a good sled for short guys. And they ride fine now that they finally put good shocks on them. Procross is really good now. Glad I never bought the first few years. If cat game out with a new 900 I’d jizz in my pants. Not sure I want to make the jump to turbo 4 stroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, ACE said: Procross is really good now. Glad I never bought the first few years. If cat game out with a new 900 I’d jizz in my pants. Not sure I want to make the jump to turbo 4 stroke The first few years were good too just a bit harsh. My 13 RR was a mash up of SX and CC parts. It was very close to a race sled with an 800 in it and a fancier gauge. It’s biggest problem was the skid’s geometry that really didn’t work very well on the trail unless you were pounding 3-5 footers all day....or it was smooth as butter. That leaves a lot of trail out. Even my SX rode better than that at its race settings. Still, that RR was a fucking beast....and the way I hs it clutches and geared....well, fun factor meets fear factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Wildboer said: They made the front arm longer and you can adjust its angle. Ok so I went to the website to check it out and yeah looks pretty good. So I priced it up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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