racer254 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Just now, Mainecat said: As I have said here before most here do not understand politics. Vince nailed it. We understand it just fine, that is why trump is the candidate. We are sick of the politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mainecat said: As I have said here before most here do not understand politics. Vince nailed it. With these two as candidates, I would say you can extend that statement and paint a very large brush to the majority of the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 19, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: Bernie Sanders understands that the best opportunity for his progressive values to be realized is by having HRC in the WH vs Trump, smart people would view this as a reasonable and prudent decision by Bernie in trying to insure that his values and platform have the best possible chance of coming to fruition. The exact same thing could be said about Conservatives and Trump. He's far from perfect but he is the only chance we have at some version of a conservative in the WH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 19, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) I don't know Moto, sounds like he's telling them who to vote for to me. Democratic National Convention Day One: Bernie Sanders tells supporters, 'Hillary Clinton must become the next president of the United States' Edited September 19, 2016 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: Bernie Sanders understands that the best opportunity for his progressive values to be realized is by having HRC in the WH vs Trump, smart people would view this as a reasonable and prudent decision by Bernie in trying to insure that his values and platform have the best possible chance of coming to fruition. 1 hour ago, Kivalo said: Did you write with a straight face? Supporting HRC goes against all the values Sanders claimed to hold as a candidate. He is a sell out and a fraud, nothing more. A true "team player" and not the independent force he pretends to be. Which candidate in the WH gives Sanders the best hope for furthering his progressive agenda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 19, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: Which candidate in the WH gives Sanders the best hope for furthering his progressive agenda? Considering the vast amount of the Sanders campaign focused on big money in politics no matter what the political motivation is he looks like a complete hypocrite supporting the candidate who accepts big money as much if not more than any previous candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: The exact same thing could be said about Conservatives and Trump. He's far from perfect but he is the only chance we have at some version of a conservative in the WH. To some degree he does, but his trade policy is anything but the free market that has been a stalwart of conservative policy, and his foreign absolutely horrifies the best and brightest the conservatives have on that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Considering the vast amount of the Sanders campaign focused on big money in politics no matter what the political motivation is he looks like a complete hypocrite supporting the candidate who accepts big money as much if not more than any previous candidate. Which candidate in the WH gives Sanders the best hope for furthering his progressive agenda? At the end of the day the smart man who lost picks the winner who give him the best opportunity to see his vision succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Trump has flip flopped on every issue so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 11 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Which candidate in the WH gives Sanders the best hope for furthering his progressive agenda? At the end of the day the smart man who lost picks the winner who give him the best opportunity to see his vision succeed. Well, I'm not sure his "vision" was do able. But it was entertaining and interesting. And you are correct. He really had nowhere else to go. But if I were him and under the shameful circumstances in which he was ousted. I would have waited to endorse her until after the Dem convention. But, then again, that's why I'm not in politics. I wouldn't be offered a chair at the table afterwords. Should she win, he'll be in good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 the op hasn't nailed anything in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Which candidate in the WH gives Sanders the best hope for furthering his progressive agenda? At the end of the day the smart man who lost picks the winner who give him the best opportunity to see his vision succeed. Hillary is no progressive. Policy wise she is more in the middle. This is more about the Democratic Party and of course his disdain for Trump. Let's be honest here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 19 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Trump Hillary has flip flopped on every issue so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, oleroule said: It's called "evolving" when the dems do it silly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 19, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 55 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Which candidate in the WH gives Sanders the best hope for furthering his progressive agenda? At the end of the day the smart man who lost picks the winner who give him the best opportunity to see his vision succeed. There is plenty different between Sanders and Clinton. Clinton is hardly the Political Revolution Sanders so strongly campaigned on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 19, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: To some degree he does, but his trade policy is anything but the free market that has been a stalwart of conservative policy, and his foreign absolutely horrifies the best and brightest the conservatives have on that issue. I think sometimes you confuse neoconservative with conservatives. IMHO not one in the same. Kennedy was a neoconservative. Reagan was not. http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/reagan-was-no-neocon Ask yourself if the R's supporting Hillary are neocon's or real conservatives? Edited September 19, 2016 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted September 19, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: Which candidate in the WH gives Sanders the best hope for furthering his progressive agenda? Neither. Wall Street has Clinton in their back pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, Kivalo said: Neither. Wall Street has Clinton in their back pockets. The ONLY reason she adopted some of Bernies policies was she saw he was getting traction with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted September 19, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Edmo said: The ONLY reason she adopted some of Bernies policies was she saw he was getting traction with them. Lip service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted September 19, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 8 hours ago, Skidooski said: Yet again you claim to want to discuss and debate but come out of the gate with insults? FAIL Yo - I'm still waiting for you to post a few examples of your discussions and debates.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Just now, SnowRider said: Yo - I'm still waiting for you to post a few examples of your discussions and debates.... Theres no debating that you have more then a few issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted September 19, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Yo - I'm still waiting for you to post a few examples of your discussions and debates.... Start more threads with insults right off the bat and I'm sure you'll get just that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted September 19, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Mikeadoo said: From the title, I thought maybe Shitrider finally got laid. You'd love to have my past experiences and still have a hot wife 3 hours ago, oleroule said: the op hasn't nailed anything in years. I have a hot wife.....what do you have Ol' Drule....??? Does your catheter make you hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted September 19, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Skidooski said: Start more threads with insults right off the bat and I'm sure you'll get just that I'm simply asking for some examples.....surely there are several Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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