Whoa fucking whoa!!!

[Zambroski]

2 minutes ago, Frostynuts said:

Enjoy !

 

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/534-turbo-4-stroke/1764602-turbo-dynamics-2018-new-tune-testing-knock-light-testing.html

"But the DOO 850!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Remember the Polaris shit talking about how the new Axys was faster than the Cat turbo?  HOLY SHIT!!!  That was just awesome!..  Some of those videos of them racing made me laugh until I pissed.  FUCKING BEAT DOWNS!!!!!

 

[Anler]

4 minutes ago, Frostynuts said:

Enjoy !

 

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/534-turbo-4-stroke/1764602-turbo-dynamics-2018-new-tune-testing-knock-light-testing.html

Are you trying to compare a tuned 4stroke turbo to a stock 800 2 stroke?

[Frostynuts]

Yup, I,ve got a couple of riding buddies in our group that had a 850 doo, and a poolaris.

The 850 was gone after a couple of rides, and the poolaris vibrator in our group constantly gets beat by every other sled in our group.

Hey, nothing wrong with being the 4th fastest sled out there, and getting the worst gas mileage to boot, in a group of 4. LOL

[Anler]

absolute bullshit.

 

[Frostynuts]

6 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

Are you trying to compare a tuned 4stroke turbo to a stock 800 2 stroke?

Nope, I,m trying to show you sleds, that real men ride.

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, Frostynuts said:

Yup, I,ve got a couple of riding buddies in our group that had a 850 doo, and a poolaris.

The 850 was gone after a couple of rides, and the poolaris vibrator in our group constantly gets beat by every other sled in our group.

Hey, nothing wrong with being the 4th fastest sled out there, and getting the worst gas mileage to boot, in a group of 4. LOL

I find the 800 straight line racers just a notch above the hilarity line over the 600 engine mod guys.  Actual racers excluded of course.  "What kind of HP can I can with a new dome, pipe, "rage cage" and a can in my 600?"   For half the money and twice the gain...trade for an 800 you meatloaf!!!

 

 

[Anler]

Just now, Frostynuts said:

Nope, I,m trying to show you sleds, that real men ride.

Those turbos are mid life crisis / small dick guy sleds. Unless you have a unique application for them (ie. Racing) the 2 stroke is a better suited trail/mountain sled. 

And I have to laugh out loud some more about your non-sensicle garble about the poo 800 being a slow vibrator. Nobody who has ridden one would say that. You're a troll.

 

[Anler]

1 minute ago, Zambroski said:

I find the 800 straight line racers just a notch above the hilarity line over the 600 engine mod guys.  Actual racers excluded of course.  "What kind of HP can I can with a new dome, pipe, "rage cage" and a can in my 600?"   For half the money and twice the gain...trade for an 800 you meatloaf!!!

 

 

I never understood that either. 

[Frostynuts]

I only comment on what I see first hand, not read on the internet. Your results may vary. 

[Anler]

1 minute ago, Frostynuts said:

I only comment on what I see first hand, not read on the internet. Your results may vary. 

That's funny because I have ridden all but the new 850. The poo 800 is not slow. And the axys chassis (having not ridden the g4 yet) is arguably the best in the biz right now. That real world analysis right there spanky. And I'm a Doo guy. 

[Frostynuts]

Best in the biz, at what ? Our group are all groomed trail riders. Any new sled out there werxs great on groomed trails, and that is what we do.

It,s all about having some extra power on tap for me. The 2 strokes don,t have it, especially above 60-70 mph.

 

[Kev144]

50 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

That's funny because I have ridden all but the new 850. The poo 800 is not slow. And the axys chassis (having not ridden the g4 yet) is arguably the best in the biz right now. That real world analysis right there spanky. And I'm a Doo guy. 

Agreed. The axys is a great sled not sure what frosty is on.  I've ridden a bunch of the xs doos and they are top notch. If the g4 is better it is a bug win for doo. Cataha chassis wise is way too far behind and their 2003 2 stroke sdi tec 

[Zambroski]

10 minutes ago, Kev144 said:

Agreed. The axys is a great sled not sure what frosty is on.  I've ridden a bunch of the xs doos and they are top notch. If the g4 is better it is a bug win for doo. Cataha chassis wise is way too far behind and their 2003 2 stroke sdi tec 

USXC Results 2016-2017

 PRO STOCK - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Zach Herfindahl               Arctic Cat

2.            Aaron Christensen          Polaris

3.            Re Wadena         #52         Arctic Cat

4.            Alex Hetteen     #154      Polaris

5.            Ross Erdman      #311      Arctic Cat

 PRO OPEN

1.            Zach Herfindahl               Arctic Cat

2.            Aaron Christensen          Polaris

3.            Wes Selby           #15         Arctic Cat

4.            Ben Langaas       #231      Arctic Cat

5.            Taylor Bunke      #14         Polaris

POLARIS SEMI-PRO - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Ryan Trout          #105      Arctic Cat

2.            Dustin Dohrn     #29         Skidoo

3.            Craig Ritzinger   #196      Skidoo

4.            Timmy Kallock   #48K      Skidoo

5.            Dan Revering     #101      Polaris

SEMI-PRO IMPROVED - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Dustin Dohrn     #29         Skidoo

2.            Dalton Fredrickson          Arctic Cat

3.            Andy Junglen     #31         Skidoo

4.            Brian Brodehl     #33         Arctic Cat

5.            Jared Christensen             Polaris

I-500 CLASS - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Ryan Trout          #105      Arctic Cat

2.            Joseph Wood    #157      Arctic Cat

3.            Craig Ritzinger   #196      Skidoo

4.            Tyler Oettinger #227      Arctic Cat

5.            Austin Lunde     #519      Arctic Cat

 EXPERT 85

1.            David Brown      #871      Arctic Cat

2.            Ryan Weidemann            Arctic Cat

3.            Ean Voigt             #48         Arctic Cat

4.            Cody Wolter       #143      Arctic Cat

5.            Thomas Junglen              Arctic Cat

EXPERT 85 IMPROVED

1.            David Brown      #871      Arctic Cat

2.            Ean Voigt             #48        Arctic Cat

3.            Nathan Joyce     #240      Arctic Cat

4.            Cody Wolter       #143      Polaris

5.            Thomas Junglen               Arctic Cat

 40+ - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Gabe Bunke       #74         Polaris

2.            Brian Brodehl     #33         Arctic Cat

3.            Chad Lian             #681      Arctic Cat

4.            Justin Tate          #28         Polaris

5.            Mike Dirkman    #186      Arctic Cat

FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Jim Sobeck          #44         Skidoo

2.            Jon Arneson       #190      Arctic Cat

3.            Erik Nymann      #404      Arctic Cat

4.            Eric Christenesen             #84         Polaris

5.            David Wandschneider    Arctic Cat

 ARCTIC CAT SPORT 85

1.            Blaise Potucek  #33B      Arctic Cat

2.            Eli Nelson            #203      Arctic Cat

3.            Keaton Black      #132      Arctic Cat

4.            Justin Olson        #606      Arctic Cat

5.            Blair Herfindahl #393      Arctic Cat

 SPORT 600 - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Garet Grzadzielewski    Arctic Cat

2.            Jeff Hayford       #211      Polaris

3.            Jacob Dahle        #102      Skidoo

4.            Dan Herberg      #558      Polaris

5.            Skyler Soyring    #166      Skidoo

 PRO TRAIL

1.            Morgan Nyquist               Arctic Cat

2.            Steve Martinson              Arctic Cat

3.            Lucas Burnside  #013      Arctic Cat

4.            Andy Mack         #679      Skidoo

5.            Ben Thomas       #97         Arctic Cat

VINTAGE

1.            Gary Tintes         #7X        Arctic Cat

2.            Paul Sillerud       #522      Arctic Cat

3.            Adam Geisler     #282      Skidoo

4.            Bill Young             #754      Arctic Cat

5.            Caroline Allard   #690      Kawasaki

 VINTAGE 50+

1.            Gary Tintes         #7X        Arctic Cat

2.            Pete Mattison   #442      Arctic Cat

3.            Mike Bedard      #275      Polaris

4.            Glen Wasmuth  #361      John Deere

5.            David Bakke       #77         Polaris

 IFS 18-50

1.            Brian Brown       #313      Arctic Cat

2.            Kellin Geisler      #987      Polaris

3.            Ryan Nelson       #18         Polaris

4.            Tory Severson   #8           Polaris

5.            Don Killian           #204      Polaris CLASSIC IFS 50

CLASSIC IFS 50+

1.            Brian Brown       #313      Arctic Cat

2.            Don Killian           #204      Polaris

3.            Scott Ilstrup        #35         Arctic Cat

4.            Steve Sherwood              Arctic Cat

5.            Dave Chambers                #911      Arctic Cat

 WOMEN'S

1.            Jill Tangen           #4J         Polaris

2.            Lydia Sobeck      #444      Skidoo

3.            Savannah Landrus           Arctic Cat

4.            Jolene Bute        #22         Arctic Cat

5.            Leah Bauer         #07         Skidoo

 JUNIOR 10-13

1.            Nicholas Nyquist             Arctic Cat

2.            Abe Olson           #223      Arctic Cat

3.            Caleb Nymann  #162      Arctic Cat

4.            Lucas Houle        #222      Arctic Cat

5.            Cooper Kangas  #29         Arctic Cat

 JUNIOR 14-17

1.            Blaise Potucek  #33B      Arctic Cat

2.            Keaton Black      #132      Arctic Cat

3.            Lucas Burnside  #013      Arctic Cat

4.            Dawson Diesen #88         Arctic cat

5.            Braden Sillerud #217      Arctic Cat

JUNIOR GIRLS 14-17 (600CC)

1.            Sara Larson         #6X        Arctic Cat

2.            Hanna Black        #321      Arctic Cat

3.            Hannah Diesen #8           Arctic Cat

[Kev144]

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

USXC Results 2016-2017

 PRO STOCK - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Zach Herfindahl               Arctic Cat

2.            Aaron Christensen          Polaris

3.            Re Wadena         #52         Arctic Cat

4.            Alex Hetteen     #154      Polaris

5.            Ross Erdman      #311      Arctic Cat

 PRO OPEN

1.            Zach Herfindahl               Arctic Cat

2.            Aaron Christensen          Polaris

3.            Wes Selby           #15         Arctic Cat

4.            Ben Langaas       #231      Arctic Cat

5.            Taylor Bunke      #14         Polaris

POLARIS SEMI-PRO - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Ryan Trout          #105      Arctic Cat

2.            Dustin Dohrn     #29         Skidoo

3.            Craig Ritzinger   #196      Skidoo

4.            Timmy Kallock   #48K      Skidoo

5.            Dan Revering     #101      Polaris

SEMI-PRO IMPROVED - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Dustin Dohrn     #29         Skidoo

2.            Dalton Fredrickson          Arctic Cat

3.            Andy Junglen     #31         Skidoo

4.            Brian Brodehl     #33         Arctic Cat

5.            Jared Christensen             Polaris

I-500 CLASS - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Ryan Trout          #105      Arctic Cat

2.            Joseph Wood    #157      Arctic Cat

3.            Craig Ritzinger   #196      Skidoo

4.            Tyler Oettinger #227      Arctic Cat

5.            Austin Lunde     #519      Arctic Cat

 EXPERT 85

1.            David Brown      #871      Arctic Cat

2.            Ryan Weidemann            Arctic Cat

3.            Ean Voigt             #48         Arctic Cat

4.            Cody Wolter       #143      Arctic Cat

5.            Thomas Junglen              Arctic Cat

EXPERT 85 IMPROVED

1.            David Brown      #871      Arctic Cat

2.            Ean Voigt             #48        Arctic Cat

3.            Nathan Joyce     #240      Arctic Cat

4.            Cody Wolter       #143      Polaris

5.            Thomas Junglen               Arctic Cat

 40+ - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Gabe Bunke       #74         Polaris

2.            Brian Brodehl     #33         Arctic Cat

3.            Chad Lian             #681      Arctic Cat

4.            Justin Tate          #28         Polaris

5.            Mike Dirkman    #186      Arctic Cat

FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Jim Sobeck          #44         Skidoo

2.            Jon Arneson       #190      Arctic Cat

3.            Erik Nymann      #404      Arctic Cat

4.            Eric Christenesen             #84         Polaris

5.            David Wandschneider    Arctic Cat

 ARCTIC CAT SPORT 85

1.            Blaise Potucek  #33B      Arctic Cat

2.            Eli Nelson            #203      Arctic Cat

3.            Keaton Black      #132      Arctic Cat

4.            Justin Olson        #606      Arctic Cat

5.            Blair Herfindahl #393      Arctic Cat

 SPORT 600 - FACTORY STOCK 600

1.            Garet Grzadzielewski    Arctic Cat

2.            Jeff Hayford       #211      Polaris

3.            Jacob Dahle        #102      Skidoo

4.            Dan Herberg      #558      Polaris

5.            Skyler Soyring    #166      Skidoo

 PRO TRAIL

1.            Morgan Nyquist               Arctic Cat

2.            Steve Martinson              Arctic Cat

3.            Lucas Burnside  #013      Arctic Cat

4.            Andy Mack         #679      Skidoo

5.            Ben Thomas       #97         Arctic Cat

VINTAGE

1.            Gary Tintes         #7X        Arctic Cat

2.            Paul Sillerud       #522      Arctic Cat

3.            Adam Geisler     #282      Skidoo

4.            Bill Young             #754      Arctic Cat

5.            Caroline Allard   #690      Kawasaki

 VINTAGE 50+

1.            Gary Tintes         #7X        Arctic Cat

2.            Pete Mattison   #442      Arctic Cat

3.            Mike Bedard      #275      Polaris

4.            Glen Wasmuth  #361      John Deere

5.            David Bakke       #77         Polaris

 IFS 18-50

1.            Brian Brown       #313      Arctic Cat

2.            Kellin Geisler      #987      Polaris

3.            Ryan Nelson       #18         Polaris

4.            Tory Severson   #8           Polaris

5.            Don Killian           #204      Polaris CLASSIC IFS 50

CLASSIC IFS 50+

1.            Brian Brown       #313      Arctic Cat

2.            Don Killian           #204      Polaris

3.            Scott Ilstrup        #35         Arctic Cat

4.            Steve Sherwood              Arctic Cat

5.            Dave Chambers                #911      Arctic Cat

 WOMEN'S

1.            Jill Tangen           #4J         Polaris

2.            Lydia Sobeck      #444      Skidoo

3.            Savannah Landrus           Arctic Cat

4.            Jolene Bute        #22         Arctic Cat

5.            Leah Bauer         #07         Skidoo

 JUNIOR 10-13

1.            Nicholas Nyquist             Arctic Cat

2.            Abe Olson           #223      Arctic Cat

3.            Caleb Nymann  #162      Arctic Cat

4.            Lucas Houle        #222      Arctic Cat

5.            Cooper Kangas  #29         Arctic Cat

 JUNIOR 14-17

1.            Blaise Potucek  #33B      Arctic Cat

2.            Keaton Black      #132      Arctic Cat

3.            Lucas Burnside  #013      Arctic Cat

4.            Dawson Diesen #88         Arctic cat

5.            Braden Sillerud #217      Arctic Cat

JUNIOR GIRLS 14-17 (600CC)

1.            Sara Larson         #6X        Arctic Cat

2.            Hanna Black        #321      Arctic Cat

3.            Hannah Diesen #8           Arctic Cat

The cat does one thing well.  The age old saying of what wins on Sunday sells on Monday is no longer true as cat needed a Textron buyout to stay in business.  They already went bankrupt once. Fact is the ctec is 2003 tech and the pro cross chassis is showing it's age. And I have a 2016 cat.  

[Zambroski]

3 minutes ago, Kev144 said:

The cat does one thing well.  The age old saying of what wins on Sunday sells on Monday is no longer true as cat needed a Textron buyout to stay in business.  They already went bankrupt once. Fact is the ctec is 2003 tech and the pro cross chassis is showing it's age. And I have a 2016 cat.  

1st.  Racing has always been their "thang".  It's why they have a hard time trying to transition their sleds into more "consumer friendly" models, IMO.

2nd:  You may want to tell Poo to update their sales brochure then.  Somebody isn't paying atteniont to what is true or not.  

 

[Edmo]

4 minutes ago, Kev144 said:

The cat does one thing well.  The age old saying of what wins on Sunday sells on Monday is no longer true as cat needed a Textron buyout to stay in business.  They already went bankrupt once. Fact is the ctec is 2003 tech and the pro cross chassis is showing it's age. And I have a 2016 cat.  

Even my lifer cat buds are looking at the doo 850 and the Axys. Cat really needs that new sled out soon before their faithful lose interest.

[DriftBusta]

2 hours ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

Those turbos are mid life crisis / small dick guy sleds. Unless you have a unique application for them (ie. Racing) the 2 stroke is a better suited trail/mountain sled. 

And I have to laugh out loud some more about your non-sensicle garble about the poo 800 being a slow vibrator. Nobody who has ridden one would say that. You're a troll.

 

I rode a Freeride for 4000 miles with the etec, and the SKS for 2400 miles. I'd have to say the Polaris 800 HO felt a little snortier seat of the pants.  The new 850 I'm sure is a runner, I'll get to line up with Dmann on his new Freeride 850 137 1.75",  should be a good match up for my Assault with the 2"  I'm gonna venture to guess that I'll get him out of the whole for a couple lengths, and then he'll finger walk by on top end.  We'll see I guess.  But at the end of the day, a couple sled lengths at top end really means diddly in the scheme of things imo.  

[Anler]

5 minutes ago, Edmo said:

Even my lifer cat buds are looking at the doo 850 and the Axys. Cat really needs that new sled out soon before their faithful lose interest.

You can chalk up to bullshit when a die hard Doo guy tells you the 850 is awesome. But when everybody says it, there is substance there. Zambroni and ezra have butthurt...

[Kev144]

2 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

You can chalk up to bullshit when a die hard Doo guy tells you the 850 is awesome. But when everybody says it, there is substance there. Zambroni and ezra have butthurt...

100% butthurt.  

[Dave]

10 minutes ago, Edmo said:

Even my lifer cat buds are looking at the doo 850 and the Axys. Cat really needs that new sled out soon before their faithful lose interest.

Im guessing 2022 will 2012 all over again for cat...doo will already be releasing the gen 5 and cat will have a copy of the gen 4.

[Skidooski]

2 hours ago, Zambroski said:

I find the 800 straight line racers just a notch above the hilarity line over the 600 engine mod guys.  Actual racers excluded of course.  "What kind of HP can I can with a new dome, pipe, "rage cage" and a can in my 600?"   For half the money and twice the gain...trade for an 800 you meatloaf!!!

 

 

 I'm doing just that to the GF's carb'd 600 as it will be my back up sled most times. 

[s pump]

2 hours ago, Zambroski said:

I find the 800 straight line racers just a notch above the hilarity line over the 600 engine mod guys.  Actual racers excluded of course.  "What kind of HP can I can with a new dome, pipe, "rage cage" and a can in my 600?"   For half the money and twice the gain...trade for an 800 you meatloaf!!!

 

 

In all actuality, who gives a fuck about horsepower on the new 800? They all are mod 800 sled horsepower from 5 years ago. I very rarely have mine clamped and when I do it's plenty fast.

[Reevester]

13 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

You can chalk up to bullshit when a die hard Doo guy tells you the 850 is awesome. But when everybody says it, there is substance there. Zambroni and ezra have butthurt...

Pretty much. I ride with 2 guys that have them and although 1 was a lemon and had I think a bolt come loose internally and grenade the motor at 1500 miles and was eating belts every 500 miles. It absolutely had the best fit and finish and smoothest motor. Hes got an 18 xrs this season. 

[Angry ginger]

3 hours ago, jammin said:

Drag a Tcat wins

Trails a G4 wins

Gas a G4 wins

Oil a G4 wins

Looking badass on a 2000-2002 Tcat- priceless   

  sure wear some pink and green leathers as well so people laugh even more than they would anywyas at the guy riding the old hoopty   

[Angry ginger]

30 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

1st.  Racing has always been their "thang".  It's why they have a hard time trying to transition their sleds into more "consumer friendly" models, IMO.

2nd:  You may want to tell Poo to update their sales brochure then.  Somebody isn't paying atteniont to what is true or not.  

 

great advertising for the handful of ricky racers,  whats tha tmodel account for between the 600 and 800 1% of overall sales