Zambroski Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Frostynuts said: Enjoy ! http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/534-turbo-4-stroke/1764602-turbo-dynamics-2018-new-tune-testing-knock-light-testing.html "But the DOO 850!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Remember the Polaris shit talking about how the new Axys was faster than the Cat turbo? HOLY SHIT!!! That was just awesome!.. Some of those videos of them racing made me laugh until I pissed. FUCKING BEAT DOWNS!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Frostynuts said: Enjoy ! http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/534-turbo-4-stroke/1764602-turbo-dynamics-2018-new-tune-testing-knock-light-testing.html Are you trying to compare a tuned 4stroke turbo to a stock 800 2 stroke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Yup, I,ve got a couple of riding buddies in our group that had a 850 doo, and a poolaris. The 850 was gone after a couple of rides, and the poolaris vibrator in our group constantly gets beat by every other sled in our group. Hey, nothing wrong with being the 4th fastest sled out there, and getting the worst gas mileage to boot, in a group of 4. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 absolute bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Are you trying to compare a tuned 4stroke turbo to a stock 800 2 stroke? Nope, I,m trying to show you sleds, that real men ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Frostynuts said: Yup, I,ve got a couple of riding buddies in our group that had a 850 doo, and a poolaris. The 850 was gone after a couple of rides, and the poolaris vibrator in our group constantly gets beat by every other sled in our group. Hey, nothing wrong with being the 4th fastest sled out there, and getting the worst gas mileage to boot, in a group of 4. LOL I find the 800 straight line racers just a notch above the hilarity line over the 600 engine mod guys. Actual racers excluded of course. "What kind of HP can I can with a new dome, pipe, "rage cage" and a can in my 600?" For half the money and twice the gain...trade for an 800 you meatloaf!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, Frostynuts said: Nope, I,m trying to show you sleds, that real men ride. Those turbos are mid life crisis / small dick guy sleds. Unless you have a unique application for them (ie. Racing) the 2 stroke is a better suited trail/mountain sled. And I have to laugh out loud some more about your non-sensicle garble about the poo 800 being a slow vibrator. Nobody who has ridden one would say that. You're a troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: I find the 800 straight line racers just a notch above the hilarity line over the 600 engine mod guys. Actual racers excluded of course. "What kind of HP can I can with a new dome, pipe, "rage cage" and a can in my 600?" For half the money and twice the gain...trade for an 800 you meatloaf!!! I never understood that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I only comment on what I see first hand, not read on the internet. Your results may vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Frostynuts said: I only comment on what I see first hand, not read on the internet. Your results may vary. That's funny because I have ridden all but the new 850. The poo 800 is not slow. And the axys chassis (having not ridden the g4 yet) is arguably the best in the biz right now. That real world analysis right there spanky. And I'm a Doo guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Best in the biz, at what ? Our group are all groomed trail riders. Any new sled out there werxs great on groomed trails, and that is what we do. It,s all about having some extra power on tap for me. The 2 strokes don,t have it, especially above 60-70 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: That's funny because I have ridden all but the new 850. The poo 800 is not slow. And the axys chassis (having not ridden the g4 yet) is arguably the best in the biz right now. That real world analysis right there spanky. And I'm a Doo guy. Agreed. The axys is a great sled not sure what frosty is on. I've ridden a bunch of the xs doos and they are top notch. If the g4 is better it is a bug win for doo. Cataha chassis wise is way too far behind and their 2003 2 stroke sdi tec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kev144 said: Agreed. The axys is a great sled not sure what frosty is on. I've ridden a bunch of the xs doos and they are top notch. If the g4 is better it is a bug win for doo. Cataha chassis wise is way too far behind and their 2003 2 stroke sdi tec USXC Results 2016-2017 PRO STOCK - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Zach Herfindahl Arctic Cat 2. Aaron Christensen Polaris 3. Re Wadena #52 Arctic Cat 4. Alex Hetteen #154 Polaris 5. Ross Erdman #311 Arctic Cat PRO OPEN 1. Zach Herfindahl Arctic Cat 2. Aaron Christensen Polaris 3. Wes Selby #15 Arctic Cat 4. Ben Langaas #231 Arctic Cat 5. Taylor Bunke #14 Polaris POLARIS SEMI-PRO - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Ryan Trout #105 Arctic Cat 2. Dustin Dohrn #29 Skidoo 3. Craig Ritzinger #196 Skidoo 4. Timmy Kallock #48K Skidoo 5. Dan Revering #101 Polaris SEMI-PRO IMPROVED - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Dustin Dohrn #29 Skidoo 2. Dalton Fredrickson Arctic Cat 3. Andy Junglen #31 Skidoo 4. Brian Brodehl #33 Arctic Cat 5. Jared Christensen Polaris I-500 CLASS - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Ryan Trout #105 Arctic Cat 2. Joseph Wood #157 Arctic Cat 3. Craig Ritzinger #196 Skidoo 4. Tyler Oettinger #227 Arctic Cat 5. Austin Lunde #519 Arctic Cat EXPERT 85 1. David Brown #871 Arctic Cat 2. Ryan Weidemann Arctic Cat 3. Ean Voigt #48 Arctic Cat 4. Cody Wolter #143 Arctic Cat 5. Thomas Junglen Arctic Cat EXPERT 85 IMPROVED 1. David Brown #871 Arctic Cat 2. Ean Voigt #48 Arctic Cat 3. Nathan Joyce #240 Arctic Cat 4. Cody Wolter #143 Polaris 5. Thomas Junglen Arctic Cat 40+ - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Gabe Bunke #74 Polaris 2. Brian Brodehl #33 Arctic Cat 3. Chad Lian #681 Arctic Cat 4. Justin Tate #28 Polaris 5. Mike Dirkman #186 Arctic Cat FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Jim Sobeck #44 Skidoo 2. Jon Arneson #190 Arctic Cat 3. Erik Nymann #404 Arctic Cat 4. Eric Christenesen #84 Polaris 5. David Wandschneider Arctic Cat ARCTIC CAT SPORT 85 1. Blaise Potucek #33B Arctic Cat 2. Eli Nelson #203 Arctic Cat 3. Keaton Black #132 Arctic Cat 4. Justin Olson #606 Arctic Cat 5. Blair Herfindahl #393 Arctic Cat SPORT 600 - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Garet Grzadzielewski Arctic Cat 2. Jeff Hayford #211 Polaris 3. Jacob Dahle #102 Skidoo 4. Dan Herberg #558 Polaris 5. Skyler Soyring #166 Skidoo PRO TRAIL 1. Morgan Nyquist Arctic Cat 2. Steve Martinson Arctic Cat 3. Lucas Burnside #013 Arctic Cat 4. Andy Mack #679 Skidoo 5. Ben Thomas #97 Arctic Cat VINTAGE 1. Gary Tintes #7X Arctic Cat 2. Paul Sillerud #522 Arctic Cat 3. Adam Geisler #282 Skidoo 4. Bill Young #754 Arctic Cat 5. Caroline Allard #690 Kawasaki VINTAGE 50+ 1. Gary Tintes #7X Arctic Cat 2. Pete Mattison #442 Arctic Cat 3. Mike Bedard #275 Polaris 4. Glen Wasmuth #361 John Deere 5. David Bakke #77 Polaris IFS 18-50 1. Brian Brown #313 Arctic Cat 2. Kellin Geisler #987 Polaris 3. Ryan Nelson #18 Polaris 4. Tory Severson #8 Polaris 5. Don Killian #204 Polaris CLASSIC IFS 50 CLASSIC IFS 50+ 1. Brian Brown #313 Arctic Cat 2. Don Killian #204 Polaris 3. Scott Ilstrup #35 Arctic Cat 4. Steve Sherwood Arctic Cat 5. Dave Chambers #911 Arctic Cat WOMEN'S 1. Jill Tangen #4J Polaris 2. Lydia Sobeck #444 Skidoo 3. Savannah Landrus Arctic Cat 4. Jolene Bute #22 Arctic Cat 5. Leah Bauer #07 Skidoo JUNIOR 10-13 1. Nicholas Nyquist Arctic Cat 2. Abe Olson #223 Arctic Cat 3. Caleb Nymann #162 Arctic Cat 4. Lucas Houle #222 Arctic Cat 5. Cooper Kangas #29 Arctic Cat JUNIOR 14-17 1. Blaise Potucek #33B Arctic Cat 2. Keaton Black #132 Arctic Cat 3. Lucas Burnside #013 Arctic Cat 4. Dawson Diesen #88 Arctic cat 5. Braden Sillerud #217 Arctic Cat JUNIOR GIRLS 14-17 (600CC) 1. Sara Larson #6X Arctic Cat 2. Hanna Black #321 Arctic Cat 3. Hannah Diesen #8 Arctic Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: USXC Results 2016-2017 PRO STOCK - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Zach Herfindahl Arctic Cat 2. Aaron Christensen Polaris 3. Re Wadena #52 Arctic Cat 4. Alex Hetteen #154 Polaris 5. Ross Erdman #311 Arctic Cat PRO OPEN 1. Zach Herfindahl Arctic Cat 2. Aaron Christensen Polaris 3. Wes Selby #15 Arctic Cat 4. Ben Langaas #231 Arctic Cat 5. Taylor Bunke #14 Polaris POLARIS SEMI-PRO - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Ryan Trout #105 Arctic Cat 2. Dustin Dohrn #29 Skidoo 3. Craig Ritzinger #196 Skidoo 4. Timmy Kallock #48K Skidoo 5. Dan Revering #101 Polaris SEMI-PRO IMPROVED - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Dustin Dohrn #29 Skidoo 2. Dalton Fredrickson Arctic Cat 3. Andy Junglen #31 Skidoo 4. Brian Brodehl #33 Arctic Cat 5. Jared Christensen Polaris I-500 CLASS - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Ryan Trout #105 Arctic Cat 2. Joseph Wood #157 Arctic Cat 3. Craig Ritzinger #196 Skidoo 4. Tyler Oettinger #227 Arctic Cat 5. Austin Lunde #519 Arctic Cat EXPERT 85 1. David Brown #871 Arctic Cat 2. Ryan Weidemann Arctic Cat 3. Ean Voigt #48 Arctic Cat 4. Cody Wolter #143 Arctic Cat 5. Thomas Junglen Arctic Cat EXPERT 85 IMPROVED 1. David Brown #871 Arctic Cat 2. Ean Voigt #48 Arctic Cat 3. Nathan Joyce #240 Arctic Cat 4. Cody Wolter #143 Polaris 5. Thomas Junglen Arctic Cat 40+ - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Gabe Bunke #74 Polaris 2. Brian Brodehl #33 Arctic Cat 3. Chad Lian #681 Arctic Cat 4. Justin Tate #28 Polaris 5. Mike Dirkman #186 Arctic Cat FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Jim Sobeck #44 Skidoo 2. Jon Arneson #190 Arctic Cat 3. Erik Nymann #404 Arctic Cat 4. Eric Christenesen #84 Polaris 5. David Wandschneider Arctic Cat ARCTIC CAT SPORT 85 1. Blaise Potucek #33B Arctic Cat 2. Eli Nelson #203 Arctic Cat 3. Keaton Black #132 Arctic Cat 4. Justin Olson #606 Arctic Cat 5. Blair Herfindahl #393 Arctic Cat SPORT 600 - FACTORY STOCK 600 1. Garet Grzadzielewski Arctic Cat 2. Jeff Hayford #211 Polaris 3. Jacob Dahle #102 Skidoo 4. Dan Herberg #558 Polaris 5. Skyler Soyring #166 Skidoo PRO TRAIL 1. Morgan Nyquist Arctic Cat 2. Steve Martinson Arctic Cat 3. Lucas Burnside #013 Arctic Cat 4. Andy Mack #679 Skidoo 5. Ben Thomas #97 Arctic Cat VINTAGE 1. Gary Tintes #7X Arctic Cat 2. Paul Sillerud #522 Arctic Cat 3. Adam Geisler #282 Skidoo 4. Bill Young #754 Arctic Cat 5. Caroline Allard #690 Kawasaki VINTAGE 50+ 1. Gary Tintes #7X Arctic Cat 2. Pete Mattison #442 Arctic Cat 3. Mike Bedard #275 Polaris 4. Glen Wasmuth #361 John Deere 5. David Bakke #77 Polaris IFS 18-50 1. Brian Brown #313 Arctic Cat 2. Kellin Geisler #987 Polaris 3. Ryan Nelson #18 Polaris 4. Tory Severson #8 Polaris 5. Don Killian #204 Polaris CLASSIC IFS 50 CLASSIC IFS 50+ 1. Brian Brown #313 Arctic Cat 2. Don Killian #204 Polaris 3. Scott Ilstrup #35 Arctic Cat 4. Steve Sherwood Arctic Cat 5. Dave Chambers #911 Arctic Cat WOMEN'S 1. Jill Tangen #4J Polaris 2. Lydia Sobeck #444 Skidoo 3. Savannah Landrus Arctic Cat 4. Jolene Bute #22 Arctic Cat 5. Leah Bauer #07 Skidoo JUNIOR 10-13 1. Nicholas Nyquist Arctic Cat 2. Abe Olson #223 Arctic Cat 3. Caleb Nymann #162 Arctic Cat 4. Lucas Houle #222 Arctic Cat 5. Cooper Kangas #29 Arctic Cat JUNIOR 14-17 1. Blaise Potucek #33B Arctic Cat 2. Keaton Black #132 Arctic Cat 3. Lucas Burnside #013 Arctic Cat 4. Dawson Diesen #88 Arctic cat 5. Braden Sillerud #217 Arctic Cat JUNIOR GIRLS 14-17 (600CC) 1. Sara Larson #6X Arctic Cat 2. Hanna Black #321 Arctic Cat 3. Hannah Diesen #8 Arctic Cat The cat does one thing well. The age old saying of what wins on Sunday sells on Monday is no longer true as cat needed a Textron buyout to stay in business. They already went bankrupt once. Fact is the ctec is 2003 tech and the pro cross chassis is showing it's age. And I have a 2016 cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kev144 said: The cat does one thing well. The age old saying of what wins on Sunday sells on Monday is no longer true as cat needed a Textron buyout to stay in business. They already went bankrupt once. Fact is the ctec is 2003 tech and the pro cross chassis is showing it's age. And I have a 2016 cat. 1st. Racing has always been their "thang". It's why they have a hard time trying to transition their sleds into more "consumer friendly" models, IMO. 2nd: You may want to tell Poo to update their sales brochure then. Somebody isn't paying atteniont to what is true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kev144 said: The cat does one thing well. The age old saying of what wins on Sunday sells on Monday is no longer true as cat needed a Textron buyout to stay in business. They already went bankrupt once. Fact is the ctec is 2003 tech and the pro cross chassis is showing it's age. And I have a 2016 cat. Even my lifer cat buds are looking at the doo 850 and the Axys. Cat really needs that new sled out soon before their faithful lose interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Those turbos are mid life crisis / small dick guy sleds. Unless you have a unique application for them (ie. Racing) the 2 stroke is a better suited trail/mountain sled. And I have to laugh out loud some more about your non-sensicle garble about the poo 800 being a slow vibrator. Nobody who has ridden one would say that. You're a troll. I rode a Freeride for 4000 miles with the etec, and the SKS for 2400 miles. I'd have to say the Polaris 800 HO felt a little snortier seat of the pants. The new 850 I'm sure is a runner, I'll get to line up with Dmann on his new Freeride 850 137 1.75", should be a good match up for my Assault with the 2" I'm gonna venture to guess that I'll get him out of the whole for a couple lengths, and then he'll finger walk by on top end. We'll see I guess. But at the end of the day, a couple sled lengths at top end really means diddly in the scheme of things imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Edmo said: Even my lifer cat buds are looking at the doo 850 and the Axys. Cat really needs that new sled out soon before their faithful lose interest. You can chalk up to bullshit when a die hard Doo guy tells you the 850 is awesome. But when everybody says it, there is substance there. Zambroni and ezra have butthurt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: You can chalk up to bullshit when a die hard Doo guy tells you the 850 is awesome. But when everybody says it, there is substance there. Zambroni and ezra have butthurt... 100% butthurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Edmo said: Even my lifer cat buds are looking at the doo 850 and the Axys. Cat really needs that new sled out soon before their faithful lose interest. Im guessing 2022 will 2012 all over again for cat...doo will already be releasing the gen 5 and cat will have a copy of the gen 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted November 22, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Zambroski said: I find the 800 straight line racers just a notch above the hilarity line over the 600 engine mod guys. Actual racers excluded of course. "What kind of HP can I can with a new dome, pipe, "rage cage" and a can in my 600?" For half the money and twice the gain...trade for an 800 you meatloaf!!! I'm doing just that to the GF's carb'd 600 as it will be my back up sled most times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Zambroski said: I find the 800 straight line racers just a notch above the hilarity line over the 600 engine mod guys. Actual racers excluded of course. "What kind of HP can I can with a new dome, pipe, "rage cage" and a can in my 600?" For half the money and twice the gain...trade for an 800 you meatloaf!!! In all actuality, who gives a fuck about horsepower on the new 800? They all are mod 800 sled horsepower from 5 years ago. I very rarely have mine clamped and when I do it's plenty fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevester Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: You can chalk up to bullshit when a die hard Doo guy tells you the 850 is awesome. But when everybody says it, there is substance there. Zambroni and ezra have butthurt... Pretty much. I ride with 2 guys that have them and although 1 was a lemon and had I think a bolt come loose internally and grenade the motor at 1500 miles and was eating belts every 500 miles. It absolutely had the best fit and finish and smoothest motor. Hes got an 18 xrs this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 hours ago, jammin said: Drag a Tcat wins Trails a G4 wins Gas a G4 wins Oil a G4 wins Looking badass on a 2000-2002 Tcat- priceless sure wear some pink and green leathers as well so people laugh even more than they would anywyas at the guy riding the old hoopty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 30 minutes ago, Zambroski said: 1st. Racing has always been their "thang". It's why they have a hard time trying to transition their sleds into more "consumer friendly" models, IMO. 2nd: You may want to tell Poo to update their sales brochure then. Somebody isn't paying atteniont to what is true or not. great advertising for the handful of ricky racers, whats tha tmodel account for between the 600 and 800 1% of overall sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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