hayward Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 11 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Ya. They haven’t really made there way over here from China and they are a bit more expensive which will reduce the importers market and audiences bit. Doubt the importers of these would make as much moneys they do on the gas ones they are selling. I honestly didn’t know they made one till a couple weeks ago. It was a combo deal electric/ plus something else? Not sure the make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 11 minutes ago, BOHICA said: They sell tons in the US on all these auctions as well. Nothing from Mexico here as it’s all Chinese. the little Chinese skid steers are a great value for a home owner as well and the auctions are selling gobs of those. Attachments for these and bigger unit attachments, garage work benches, decorative fence panels and a host of other stuff including the multidoor 40ft container vans make the importers huge money. Every auction around here is loaded with that stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 14 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, hayward said: I honestly didn’t know they made one till a couple weeks ago. It was a combo deal electric/ plus something else? Not sure the make? Chinese. You can order them off Alibaba…. Europe has them coming in at a good clip and you can find YouTube vids on them. Seem like pretty nice units for the price if you want to tackle the import fees and hassle and such and wait months. Otherwise monthly auctions you can find gas with Briggs and Stratton clones on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 20 minutes ago, BOHICA said: On Facebook marketplace about $1k more then I paid. sounds like a win then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 14 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 14 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: sounds like a win then The H15 they call a 1.5 ton…. But it’s in the 2300-2400 lb range. It has dual stage hydraulic pump or what ever you call it, has hydraulic filter and also pilot controls. Typically $4-5k on auction. Most I think go for on Facebook for $6500-7500. The 12 series models have single stage hydraulic pumps, no hydraulic filters and also the controls are mechanical to the valve body and are around 500 lbs lighter. around $3-4k on auction and $5-6k on Facebook. they are great for a home owner and beats the shit out of a shovel or rental equipment which mini’s in my area are $200-250 a day on Facebook in my area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Got this from Ritchies. It’s Mexican made. Around 1/2 price of local built 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICG Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It's old and Japanese.. and only three. more payments before it's all mine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Sany is making a run for the construction industry, See a few of them on some sites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, ICG said: It's old and Japanese.. and only three. more payments before it's all mine Might want to put a couple shots of grease in the adjusters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted April 15 Gold Member Share Posted April 15 On 4/13/2024 at 9:44 PM, BOHICA said: Lots of great deals on the auctions. Picked this little gem up on the very cheap. About 2300 lb machine immediately changed the engine oil, hydraulic oil, and pulled the fuel bowl and suprisingly it was junk free in the carb bowl. Greased the hell out of it. Had to get into the valve body and move some lines to switch it from ISO to SAE controls. Added a couple fans as online says they will run pretty darn hot and vapor lock and boil fuel. May add a hydraulic cooler in the future and a normal hydraulic filter setup. overall tear apart and putting it back together it is fairly nice quality at the price point. Nice I see those online all the time and thought it be perfect for around the yard moving small rocks and making trails. A YouTuber i sometimes watch got one a while back and I was pretty impressed at what the little thing could do lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFMAN Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I have been eyeballing one of these for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rod Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 12 hours ago, toslow said: Sany is making a run for the construction industry, See a few of them on some sites Basically all industrial manufacturers are at zero or near zero interest now governments can try but they can’t hide a bad economy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Tesla is cutting manufacturing as sales plummet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, toslow said: Tesla is cutting manufacturing as sales plummet Dodge was paying Tesla millions so they could sell a hemi. Apparently they had pretty bad emissions. But now the hemi is gone and so are those millions in credit dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 15 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rod said: Dodge was paying Tesla millions so they could sell a hemi. Apparently they had pretty bad emissions. But now the hemi is gone and so are those millions in credit dollars Nobody pays Tesla for emission credits. You can not violate emission regulations as you would be stopped from selling vehicles that violate emissions…. See VW diesels. Now Fuel Economy (CAFE) credits is what manufactures are buying from Tesla. That won’t change as the replacement for the Hemi is like 1 mpg better in fuel economy but also the CAFE requirements as well as the fines for missing those targets are going up bigly over the next few years which will bring up the value of the fuel economy credits. Rivian even sold $39 million of them in the 4th quarter of 2023. GM even pays Tesla for CAFE credits and will continue to pay them for every vehicle they sell. Edited April 15 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 15 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Nobody pays Tesla for emission credits. You can not violate emission regulations as you would be stopped from selling vehicles that violate emissions…. See VW diesels. Now Fuel Economy (CAFE) credits is what manufactures are buying from Tesla. That won’t change as the replacement for the Hemi is like 1 mpg better in fuel economy but also the CAFE requirements as well as the fines for missing those targets are going up bigly over the next few years which will bring up the value of the fuel economy credits. Rivian even sold $39 million of them in the 4th quarter of 2023. GM even pays Tesla for CAFE credits and will continue to pay them for every vehicle they sell. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 15 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 15 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Rod said: Link 2024 model years are $14 per tenth mpg under the CAFE requirements. Up from $5.50 per tenth it was since 1990 adjustment. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/05/02/2022-07200/corporate-average-fuel-economy-standards-for-model-years-2024-2026-passenger-cars-and-light-trucks courts decisions enforcing CAFE fines and increasing it. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2022-04-01/pdf/2022-06648.pdf George bush is the one that sign CAFE credits that can be bought and sold between manufactures into law instead of paying the fine to government for not meeting the standard. 3. CAFE Credits Should Be Tradable. Manufacturers should be able to trade fuel economy credits to ensure fuel savings are achieved at the lowest possible cost to consumers and automakers. If a manufacturer surpasses its CAFE standard, that company should receive credits they can sell to other manufacturers that find it more expensive to meet the standards. A similar market-based system works effectively for power plants and many other regulated industries. https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/04/20060428-9.html https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-536 I think 2032 standards are close to being finalized which GM’s get like the worst and are set up for the largest fines…. They can buy credits cheaper from the likes of Tesla though then pay fines. EPA changed the rating recently on the economy of an EV so they net less credit value to CAFE for selling an EV. So every Bolt, Lyriq, E pickup GM sells they get less credit towards CAFE. CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) FYI Edited April 15 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 19 minutes ago, BOHICA said: 2024 model years are $14 per tenth mpg under the CAFE requirements. Up from $5.50 per tenth it was since 1990 adjustment. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/05/02/2022-07200/corporate-average-fuel-economy-standards-for-model-years-2024-2026-passenger-cars-and-light-trucks courts decisions enforcing CAFE fines and increasing it. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2022-04-01/pdf/2022-06648.pdf George bush is the one that sign CAFE credits that can be bought and sold between manufactures into law instead of paying the fine to government for not meeting the standard. 3. CAFE Credits Should Be Tradable. Manufacturers should be able to trade fuel economy credits to ensure fuel savings are achieved at the lowest possible cost to consumers and automakers. If a manufacturer surpasses its CAFE standard, that company should receive credits they can sell to other manufacturers that find it more expensive to meet the standards. A similar market-based system works effectively for power plants and many other regulated industries. https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/04/20060428-9.html https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-536 I think 2032 standards are close to being finalized which GM’s get like the worst and are set up for the largest fines…. They can buy credits cheaper from the likes of Tesla though then pay fines. EPA changed the rating recently on the economy of an EV so they net less credit value to CAFE for selling an EV. So every Bolt, Lyriq, E pickup GM sells they get less credit towards CAFE. CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) FYI Do you have a legit source 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 15 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 15 34 minutes ago, Rod said: Do you have a legit source Government policy and regulation…. Currently, for GM and Stellantis, they’ve gotten away with disinvesting in efficiency improvements under EPA’s program because they can obtain credits from manufacturers like Honda and Tesla that are well-exceeding the standards (see graph below). https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-cooke/automakers-opt-out-of-cleaning-up-their-vehiclesbut-at-what-cost/ The proposal by U.S. President Joe Biden's administration to hike fuel economy standards through 2032 would cost General Motors (GM.N), opens new tab $6.5 billion in fines and Chrysler parent Stellantis (STLAM.MI), opens new tab $3 billion, according to a letter seen by Reuters. Automakers buy credits or pay fines if they cannot meet CAFE requirements. In June, Reuters first reported Stellantis and GM paid a total of $363 million in CAFE fines for failing to meet U.S. fuel economy requirements for prior model years. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-stellantis-face-95-billion-fuel-economy-fines-letter-2023-10-02/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 15 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 15 On 4/14/2024 at 10:44 AM, Stephen Hawking said: It's just one more purchase he feels the need to have validation from the forum on. I didn’t even post this on the other site and couple people are talking about it. It makes me giggle as the validation is the comedic value the retards bring to responses to my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 15 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 15 7 hours ago, MILFMAN said: I have been eyeballing one of these for myself. I would get an h15, diggit 15, or any with pilot control as they are a bit smoother. I went back and forth on getting like a h12 but I didn’t like the fact that they had a single stage hydraulic pump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted April 15 Gold Member Share Posted April 15 33 minutes ago, BOHICA said: I didn’t even post this on the other site and couple people are talking about it. It makes me giggle as the validation is the comedic value the retards bring to responses to my post. You decided to make a second comment on my post so I must have hit close to home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 15 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Stephen Hawking said: You decided to make a second comment on my post so I must have hit close to home. No. Just enjoy the comical comments…. Like the op. Post a mini excavator and look at the first page comments even. 😂. It’s awesome to even see it carry over into multiple threads. I will start another thread soon that will get some riled up and some good comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 It's another stupid ev subsidy. This shit has to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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