snoughnut Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Deephaven said: PPP was dumb but basically available for anyone smart enough to grab it. That was horrendous, however allowing people to bail on their financial obligations doesn't make that better. You really can't be this dumb. .. PPP should have never happened or it should have been very limited. Both my wife and I could have taken PPP but like many other businesses at the time we didn't need it and there's also integrity and honesty in play there also. I know plenty of people who took PPP and most are well enough off that they didn't need it. PPP was a perfect example to reveal the greedy slob side of people and boy did it ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 7, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, SnowRider said: Cry me a river Same with a small business who makes it while a large corporate competitor sucks of the government tit. Again - gotta have a grievance and boogieman. No shit dummy I am against that too . See that is my point of you not being Smart. You cant focus without going "ya but ya but" ... Just a bias hack stuck in the Dem circle jerk. This nonsense doesn't teach Young People shit , hand me outs dont work for longevity for most people. The struggle is what makes you strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, SnowRider said: How about all the poor fucks who never received PPP dollars or government subsidies? Repugs always have a grievance and need boogieman. fyi, most people regardless of political affiliations here disagree with the free PPP handouts as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, snoughnut said: PPP should have never happened or it should have been very limited. Both my wife and I could have taken PPP but like many other businesses at the time we didn't need it and there's also integrity and honesty in play there also. I know plenty of people who took PPP and most are well enough off that they didn't need it. PPP was a perfect example to reveal the greedy slob side of people and boy did it ever. how many elected officials took it? MTG comes to mind, Gaetz? Some Dems? Covid, if it was one thing I feel most here can agree with was the biggest $ grab in the history of mankind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/09/06/fact-check-ppp-loans-forgiven-republicans-matt-gaetz-marjorie-taylor-greene/65470173007/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I havent read this proposal but does this mean Biden is going to pay off all the lenders? ONce again, just like the last round of this bullshit. he can say hes excusing the borrowers responsibility but who eats the debt? the lenders beat this back once how can he do it again..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 23 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 23 You take out a loan, you pay it back plain and simple. Has nothing to do with free education in other countries. That’s a different conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted April 23 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 23 8 minutes ago, Skidooski said: You take out a loan, you pay it back plain and simple. Has nothing to do with free education in other countries. That’s a different conversation It's not free in other countries. Nothing is free, you're paying for it one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 23 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: It's not free in other countries. Nothing is free, you're paying for it one way or another. No argument there but tell MC that 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted April 23 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 23 Just now, Skidooski said: No argument there but tell MC that 👍 I like it the way it is here. Mind you there should be a cap on what they can charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bontz Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Just now, Steve753 said: I like it the way it is here. Mind you there should be a cap on what they can charge. Yep - the universities and what they charge are more of the problem than anything else. It's absurd. And yes - you took out a loan, you freaking pay for it. Screw this debt forgiveness bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 It’s money well spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: It’s money well spent. Explain ... use your own words big boy, don't look for a copy/paste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 23 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, Mainecat said: It’s money well spent. On an education, sure provided you pick something that gives you the opportunity to pay back the loans after. I don’t want to pay for anyone’s education with my tax dollars. Already taxed enough 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 4 minutes ago, Bontz said: Explain ... use your own words big boy, don't look for a copy/paste Because Joe said so...................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Skidooski said: You take out a loan, you pay it back plain and simple. Has nothing to do with free education in other countries. That’s a different conversation What about all those wealthy greedy slobs who took the PPP loans? PPP had a far greater price tag than SL’s. All those capitalists who took it are now socialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Bontz said: Explain ... use your own words big boy, don't look for a copy/paste If I have to explain it that says it all about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Just now, Mainecat said: If I have to explain it that says it all about you. Use your words. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, racinfarmer said: Use your words. Must of phoned a friend for that none answer. Joe........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 14 minutes ago, Mainecat said: If I have to explain it that says it all about you. So you can’t explain it … shocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, snoughnut said: What about all those wealthy greedy slobs who took the PPP loans? PPP had a far greater price tag than SL’s. All those capitalists who took it are now socialists. Sort of an idiot if you don't take free money. Policy was jacked and dumb as fuck, but even more stupid to not take what is offered to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, Deephaven said: Sort of an idiot if you don't take free money. Policy was jacked and dumb as fuck, but even more stupid to not take what is offered to you. Some of us have integrity and don’t trust govt. and you’re a complete moron if you think that money was free, super stupid for you to say that. Yet you missed the point of my post, not surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Didn't miss the point. To you it is free. Outside of the portion you'll be paying back in taxes, but now instead you get to pay without getting the free part to you. Idiotic. Blaming that shit on trust is sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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