Crnr2Crnr Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, MnDean said: How would person figure out how much power they are utilizing? With out some sort of data recording/ reading software. For me could I look at the miles vs hours, that might tell me something, if I had to make a guess I would say less than 40% Next time I start my sled I’m going to look at the hour and miles and see what the average MPH is. mileage divided by engine hours will tell you average mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnDean Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: mileage divided by engine hours will tell you average mph Yes , I think that is what I said ,without saying it. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdsky Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The gauge has always reported average MPH. Somewhere around 5 average because of having to stop and pull the sled around corners. That and most of the parking lot hero shit is normally done at low speeds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, MnDean said: Yes , I think that is what I said ,without saying it. Funny. C2C seems like a nice guy. I kinda see him as the Cliff Claven, Cheers actor for some of you young guys, of the FS sitcom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: Funny. C2C seems like a nice guy. I kinda see him as the Cliff Claven, Cheers actor for some of you young guys, of the FS sitcom. let's get something perfectly straight here... I am not a nice guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favoritos Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 10:52 AM, MnDean said: How would person figure out how much power they are utilizing? With out some sort of data recording/ reading software. For me could I look at the miles vs hours, that might tell me something, if I had to make a guess I would say less than 40% Next time I start my sled I’m going to look at the hour and miles and see what the average MPH is. Most riders would be surprised if they actually figured out their real average MPH with that calculation. It's lower than they think. We tend to see higher numbers based on riding area and a demented mentality in our group. We generally check at the end of each day to see how much the number changed. I don't know how the OEM gauges do the average speed. I see riders post high numbers and I bet those are moving averages. I also run a NS1 setup with one sled and look at the graphing when I get a chance. It surprises me how much throttle position varies even then I thought I was really hauling the mail. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, favoritos said: Most riders would be surprised if they actually figured out their real average MPH with that calculation. It's lower than they think. We tend to see higher numbers based on riding area and a demented mentality in our group. We generally check at the end of each day to see how much the number changed. I don't know how the OEM gauges do the average speed. I see riders post high numbers and I bet those are moving averages. I also run a NS1 setup with one sled and look at the graphing when I get a chance. It surprises me how much throttle position varies even then I thought I was really hauling the mail. I've checked mine over 6K+ miles on the 500... 28.6mph. Maybe I need to get a Boost or Thundercat? A big part of it is the type of trails one rides in my opinion. Idle and warmup time get counted on the hour meter as well. Ours trails locally are pretty twisty and windy. @Not greg b can attest to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted December 11, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 11, 2022 Been riding my buds backup 1100t past 3 years and I’m always in the boost love the pull then out of boost because I like hearing that bov 😂. For a cat it’s a blast in northern Maine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnDean Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I've checked mine over 6K+ miles on the 500... 28.6mph. Maybe I need to get a Boost or Thundercat? A big part of it is the type of trails one rides in my opinion. Idle and warmup time get counted on the hour meter as well. Ours trails locally are pretty twisty and windy. @Not greg b can attest to that. Checked my 850 today 32.16 average mph. I'm sure that number will decrease as I put more miles on it. Should of got a 600, would be perfect my age bracket. Edited December 11, 2022 by MnDean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, MnDean said: Checked my 850 today 32.16 average mph. I'm sure that number will decrease as I put more miles on it. Should of got a 600, would be perfect my age bracket. 160hp+... to average 32mph. it's sorta silly when you really think about it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: 160hp+... to average 32mph. it's sorta silly when you really think about it right? No more than a 707 hp Truck and your average over all speed is 45-55 mph town and Highway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Badger** said: No more than a 707 hp Truck and your average over all speed is 45-55 mph town and Highway. yeah, but you've GOT it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnDean Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 49 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: 160hp+... to average 32mph. it's sorta silly when you really think about it right? Not silly at all, what could be better than riding around in the cold, hoping you can find some gas or looking for a place to go in and warm up. Makes perfect sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I used all the throttle on my 600 to run rail grades. I use about 60% throttle to run rail grades on the 800. The 600 used more belts, oil and gas than the 800. 800 is more cheaper to ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Not greg b said: 800 is more cheaper to ride at consistenly higher speeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 So 800's are for budget boys and 600's for ballers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: at consistenly higher speeds? Yes. They always have been. It tight woods like your area they are about the same as the smaller sleds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, mnstang said: So 800's are for budget boys and 600's for ballers Yes and 700's are for budget ballers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favoritos Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 17 hours ago, MnDean said: Checked my 850 today 32.16 average mph. I'm sure that number will decrease as I put more miles on it. Should of got a 600, would be perfect my age bracket. That's actually higher than most sleds on the trail. In fact, I'd call it scootin along with that kind of number. Why do you think the number will decrease? I usually see the average go up after break in and early season junk riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I haven't looked at my XCR, but I know when we've kind of joked about this topic within our riding group - most of us were around 26mph to 30mph average (odometer / hours math). I bet my XCR is incredibly low, given how long it takes to warm up vs. my previous 800's and 850's. I think the highest number I saw for a 2-season sled was 29-point-something & that was on my 2016 Pro-X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnDean Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, favoritos said: That's actually higher than most sleds on the trail. In fact, I'd call it scootin along with that kind of number. Why do you think the number will decrease? I usually see the average go up after break in and early season junk riding. As I get older, I seem to get a little slower every year. 😒 but I do ride in small groups 3-4 people at most, so that helps keeping things moving. Most of the time it's just me and my son, so I have to scoot along or he will pass me, not quite ready to let that happen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) My pros 850 is around 34 mph average and my xcr was just under 35 average last time I checked. Tight twisty stuff mostly. Edited December 12, 2022 by X2700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 hey Tony, trying to figure out how to increase my average speed based upon crushing moguls. pretty certain there's a resident physicist here to help us sort the math and wear and tear. so, bare with my fifth attempt GED education level... EO = engine hours M =miles traveled SOT = stay on throttle TAB = throttle and brakes we're riding a mile long section of trail, there's 21-37" bumps/moguls with tops spaced 52" on average over the distance. to ascertain the best overall mph average should we up our mph average, and aim to hit the tops of the moguls and skip across tops of them, OR use judicious amounts throttle and brake trying to hit and clean as many as possible at the bottom? I'm certain there may be opinions and conjecture with the given parameters but math never lies. @mnstang & @AK440 wHUt d0 y0U d0?!!!!???¿? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: hey Tony, trying to figure out how to increase my average speed based upon crushing moguls. pretty certain there's a resident physicist here to help us sort the math and wear and tear. so, bare with my fifth attempt GED education level... EO = engine hours M =miles traveled SOT = stay on throttle TAB = throttle and brakes we're riding a mile long section of trail, there's 21-37" bumps/moguls with tops spaced 52" on average over the distance. to ascertain the best overall mph average should we up our mph average, and aim to hit the tops of the moguls and skip across tops of them, OR use judicious amounts throttle and brake trying to hit and clean as many as possible at the bottom? I'm certain there may be opinions and conjecture with the given parameters but math never lies. @mnstang & @AK440 wHUt d0 y0U d0?!!!!???¿? Your calculations are all off because the 129 is spinning up the face of each one while the 137 dead hooks. Track speed ≠ land speed. Unless you're on a 137. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: hey Tony, trying to figure out how to increase my average speed based upon crushing moguls. pretty certain there's a resident physicist here to help us sort the math and wear and tear. so, bare with my fifth attempt GED education level... EO = engine hours M =miles traveled SOT = stay on throttle TAB = throttle and brakes we're riding a mile long section of trail, there's 21-37" bumps/moguls with tops spaced 52" on average over the distance. to ascertain the best overall mph average should we up our mph average, and aim to hit the tops of the moguls and skip across tops of them, OR use judicious amounts throttle and brake trying to hit and clean as many as possible at the bottom? I'm certain there may be opinions and conjecture with the given parameters but math never lies. @mnstang & @AK440 wHUt d0 y0U d0?!!!!???¿? What about a mountain sled that spins the track at 90 mph all the time but only moves about 10mph across the snow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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