2024 Arctic Cat Catalyst 'Chassis' details?

[Not greg b]

23 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

take a picture... I'd like to see the hokeyness 

 

It’s on hcs 

[krom]

40 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

take a picture... I'd like to see the hokeyness 

 

@Palu49 will prob have an opportunity to before I do

 

This should give you an idea:

Edited November 27, 2024 by krom

[Palu49]

2 minutes ago, krom said:

@Palu49 will prob have an opportunity to before I do

I didn’t see this but I went down and looked at one a little while ago. I was imagining the old style with the 90° tube and that was kinking but obviously a complete different design. The shit tab on the actuator bending and making the cable end bind makes sense. I don’t think a new cable is needed but maybe a little gusset on the cable/actuator bracket.

[Not greg b]

Super8 posted this on hcs 

[Premium]

I cycled mine by hand and felt no resistance fwiw

[Crnr2Crnr]

 

still doesn't say anything about your sled running cooler on the new chassis? 

https://www.countrycat.com/arctic-cat-8639-505-tunnel-flares-2024-2025-m-riot-zr-catalyst?srsltid=AfmBOooQxDxwjdS8bdQZE-lTvlz51SFK_PQphfqefc7qtzXT9ETVjLto

 

[Not greg b]

1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

 

still doesn't say anything about your sled running cooler on the new chassis? 

https://www.countrycat.com/arctic-cat-8639-505-tunnel-flares-2024-2025-m-riot-zr-catalyst?srsltid=AfmBOooQxDxwjdS8bdQZE-lTvlz51SFK_PQphfqefc7qtzXT9ETVjLto

 

Of course it will. It creates a polar vortex around Uranus as it moves through the air, reducing the core temperature 

[Crnr2Crnr]

1 hour ago, Not greg b said:

Of course it will. It creates a polar vortex around Uranus as it moves through the air, reducing the core temperature 

in Norman County... 

you should have your dad order a set for you to see if they work in Michigan above 45mph

[jonlafon1]

7 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

 

still doesn't say anything about your sled running cooler on the new chassis? 

https://www.countrycat.com/arctic-cat-8639-505-tunnel-flares-2024-2025-m-riot-zr-catalyst?srsltid=AfmBOooQxDxwjdS8bdQZE-lTvlz51SFK_PQphfqefc7qtzXT9ETVjLto

 

Better then scratchers fir sure. 

[Not greg b]

4 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

in Norman County... 

you should have your dad order a set for you to see if they work in Michigan above 45mph

We had them on the 7000s. The cooling fan and radiator was more effective 

[mnstang]

 

 

It's weird that these people talk about the lay down motor like it's a new thing.  Cats been doing it to every two stroke since 2002

 

[Not greg b]

12 hours ago, mnstang said:

 

 

It's weird that these people talk about the lay down motor like it's a new thing.  Cats been doing it to every two stroke since 2002

 

They ran out of things to talk about?? 

[Premium]

On 2/15/2024 at 8:14 PM, Premium said:

Knew I couldn't be the only one that missed the Wilwoods. Excellent modulation, great power, distinct sound. The Hayes have power and nothing else. Oh and they are a complete PIA to bleed on the Procross.

Had to revive this thread after the latest Shoptalk Podcast episode. They are prepping an F7 for the pine lake ice race. Of course they raved about the speed, but also- the wilwood brake!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDbhhB-AVk

F7 Talk begins around 13:00, brake talk around 14:00.

[krom]

2 hours ago, Premium said:

Had to revive this thread after the latest Shoptalk Podcast episode. They are prepping an F7 for the pine lake ice race. Of course they raved about the speed, but also- the wilwood brake!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDbhhB-AVk

F7 Talk begins around 13:00, brake talk around 14:00.

opinions are like assholes...

but imho most of the change in feel/modulation is from the fact that they are on the driveshaft now, instead of on the jackshaft

[Premium]

7 minutes ago, krom said:

opinions are like assholes...

but imho most of the change in feel/modulation is from the fact that they are on the driveshaft now, instead of on the jackshaft

I agree that is a huge factor. That said, I've ridden Axys/Matryx sleds with the jackshaft mounted Hayes and I still didn't think they were as good

[Crnr2Crnr]

if you break a chain (or belt now) you can still stop the sled if it's mounted on the driveshaft, that and it's putting the weight lower on the mass.  found the brake on the PC RXC to be very good.

but, I like the old school Wilwood and just remembered I forgot to order a set of the new high perf pads to try.

https://wahlracing.com/product/arctic-wilwood-pad-billet-caliper/

maybe Santa will put a set under the tree? 

[mnstang]

I prefer the jackshaft brake.  The jackshaft spins more than 2x the speed of track shaft and I think that high speed helps with modulation and precision.

Edited December 12, 2024 by mnstang

[Not greg b]

9 hours ago, mnstang said:

I prefer the jackshaft brake.  The jackshaft spins more than 2x the speed of track shaft and I think that high speed helps with modulation and precision.

When procross first came out people bitched about the brakes.  I and see why. My rr brakes were very good. My 7000s weren’t. The rr brakes were way better than the rest of line and had different part numbers. The catalyst has that good feel the wilwood did. But I miss that sound of them on the older sleds 

[Crnr2Crnr]

5 hours ago, Not greg b said:

When procross first came out people bitched about the brakes.  I and see why. My rr brakes were very good. My 7000s weren’t. The rr brakes were way better than the rest of line and had different part numbers. The catalyst has that good feel the wilwood did. But I miss that sound of them on the older sleds 

you know what would go well with the new Ohlins?

Catalyst RXC brakes pads and the rotor.  You can hear and feel it.

https://www.countrycat.com/arctic-cat-3602-017-race-brake-pads-2013-2025-zr-sx-xc

https://www.countrycat.com/arctic-cat-2602-720-hayes-heavy-duty-brake-disc-2012-2025-models

 

[mnstang]

8 hours ago, Not greg b said:

When procross first came out people bitched about the brakes.  I and see why. My rr brakes were very good. My 7000s weren’t. The rr brakes were way better than the rest of line and had different part numbers. The catalyst has that good feel the wilwood did. But I miss that sound of them on the older sleds 

I agree.  The sound really helps a lot to help know what's going on 

[krom]

No one is mentioning the diamond drive brakes.  

[racinfarmer]

How many sway bar mounts will meet their maker this weekend?

[Not greg b]

13 hours ago, krom said:

No one is mentioning the diamond drive brakes.  

Mine still had the wilwood but I don’t remember it being much different. I did t have that sled that long as it was like trying to drive a dump truck through the woods. Those old crossfires did not handle very good. 

Edited December 14, 2024 by Not greg b

[Sled_Hed]

8 minutes ago, Not greg b said:

Mine still had the wilwood but I don’t remember it being much different. I did t have that sled that long as it was like trying to drive a dump truck through the woods. Those old crossfires did not handle very good. 

I'm definitely not the first guy to the lunch stop lol

[Not greg b]

4 minutes ago, Sled_Hed said:

I'm definitely not the first guy to the lunch stop lol

I bought mine new midwinter my birthday back then and put like 1500 miles on it in like a month and a 1/2. It was really fast and reliable but never could get it turn like a trail sled, so I sold it and got one of those little kid Sno pros.