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2024 Arctic Cat Catalyst 'Chassis' details?


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46 minutes ago, krom said:

you win, the pads are one year only.

They are available though 2602-870 MSRP $201.95

'13-14 use 2602-590 which supersede to 3602-017 MSRP $230.95

'16-'24 use 3602-017 MSRP $230.95

so the rxc comes with the same high $$ 'race' brake pads as the sx sled

The high $$ rotor is stock on '14-'24 SX sleds

The catalyst is the first trail sled that uses 1702-475 pads, they were new in '18 and only used on M sleds and a few riots prior to the catalyst (quick glance didn't check every model). MSRP $93.95

The rest of the pro cross sleds from 12-24, along with the blast, touring, and norseman sleds used 1702-245 MSRP $118.95

 

If jimwit wants to check out his next sled AC has published the parts book for the '25 120

I wasn't trying to win anything....  :lol:

It's mostly ironic that Premium was saying his was a 15 and then it turns out the 15 is the one oddball as far as components compared to all 27 years of the Procross.  what are the odds? 

 

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5 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

one thing that comes to mind... if you break a drive belt or chain the brake on the jackshaft isn't going to do shit... that's if it doesn't lock up the track and skid into an obstacle.  so there's that... 

 

I’ve broken exactly one chain in over 30 years of riding and it wadded itself into the bottom of the case and locked up the track. Worked like an emergency brake. Now the Polaris belt drive system… well, 🤔, let’s just say it’s a NASA quality belt made out of shit a time traveler from the future  gave to Polaris.

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https://www.arcticinsider.com/cross-country-racer-unveiled-2015-arctic-cat-zr-6000r-xc/

From the ArcticInsider write-up back in Sept 2014

Race Proven Brake Caliper and Pads for improved wear and increased stopping power:

-Same Brake Caliper as 2014 XC Race Sled

-Larger bridge bolts for increased stiffness

-Low-pressure seals for less resistance when the brake lever is pulled

-Offset friction material on brake pads for more even wear under high pressure

– New brake pad friction material has increased braking power at elevated brake temperatures

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Just now, Premium said:

https://www.arcticinsider.com/cross-country-racer-unveiled-2015-arctic-cat-zr-6000r-xc/

From the ArcticInsider write-up back in Sept 2014

Race Proven Brake Caliper and Pads for improved wear and increased stopping power:

-Same Brake Caliper as 2014 XC Race Sled

-Larger bridge bolts for increased stiffness

-Low-pressure seals for less resistance when the brake lever is pulled

-Offset friction material on brake pads for more even wear under high pressure

– New brake pad friction material has increased braking power at elevated brake temperatures

so good they only used it once!  :lol:

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2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

so good they only used it once!  :lol:

In the 2016 ACi R-XC press release :

• Brake Pads friction material has changed back to T-124 for

increased pad life

 

That suggests the pads were just wearing too quickly. Like I said, the stopping power is excellent. But no noise and not much feel :dunno:

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Just now, racinfarmer said:

Not sure where you'd find an X32 kit unless you happen across one out of luck right now.

I am sure some has one squirreled away. If you smoke enough meth at haydays you might be able to find one in the swap 

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5 minutes ago, Not greg b said:

I am sure some has one squirreled away. If you smoke enough meth at haydays you might be able to find one in the swap 

I should throw one on my friend's swap spot at Haydays and see what kind of offers I get for it.

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15 minutes ago, Premium said:

There was a kit you could buy through the racer's store back in the day.  It was a caliper, pads, rotor, and an adapter bracket.  It was not cheap.

There may have been some other stuff with it, but that is the basics of what I remember it being.

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46 minutes ago, mnstang said:

I rode my Catalyst today.  In less than ideal conditions, but it was still impressive.  

I went 108 mph with the stock belt.

hope you didn't hit any sled dogs with the quiet brake pads and... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

hope you didn't hit any sled dogs with the quiet brake pads and... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I didn't even put the ziptie on.  That kind of weight adds up.

So is there a verdict on these brakes?  Is there a pad out there that is confirmed to be noisy?

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16 minutes ago, mnstang said:

I didn't even put the ziptie on.  That kind of weight adds up.

So is there a verdict on these brakes?  Is there a pad out there that is confirmed to be noisy?

Are you asking about the brakes on a 9 year old sled or the Catalyst? :dunno:

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19 minutes ago, mnstang said:

I didn't even put the ziptie on.  That kind of weight adds up.

So is there a verdict on these brakes?  Is there a pad out there that is confirmed to be noisy?

Also would like to know. It sounds like my 2015 R-XC caliper may have different dimensions than the other R-XC sleds? If that's the case I'd imagine I'm stuck with what I got. I vaguely remember buying a different set of pads and finding they didn't fit my caliper. I'll have to dig into my spare parts.

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3 hours ago, AK440 said:

I’ve broken exactly one chain in over 30 years of riding and it wadded itself into the bottom of the case and locked up the track. Worked like an emergency brake. Now the Polaris belt drive system… well, 🤔, let’s just say it’s a NASA quality belt made out of shit a time traveler from the future  gave to Polaris.

:snack:
 

:lol:

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1 hour ago, mnstang said:

I didn't even put the ziptie on.  That kind of weight adds up.

So is there a verdict on these brakes?  Is there a pad out there that is confirmed to be noisy?

 

1 hour ago, Premium said:

Also would like to know. It sounds like my 2015 R-XC caliper may have different dimensions than the other R-XC sleds? If that's the case I'd imagine I'm stuck with what I got. I vaguely remember buying a different set of pads and finding they didn't fit my caliper. I'll have to dig into my spare parts.

 

1 hour ago, mnstang said:

Procross

 

# 3602-017 are the 'race' metallics for 2016 & up Procross & Catalyst

maybe @krom can arrange a group buy for y'all?

personally I'd want the #2602-720 drilled rotor for heat dissipation if you have the solid rotor  

 

  

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15 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

 

 

 

# 3602-017 are the 'race' metallics for 2016 & up Procross & Catalyst

maybe @krom can arrange a group buy for y'all?

personally I'd want the #2602-720 drilled rotor for heat dissipation if you have the solid rotor  

 

  

Do they whine though

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Not like the Polaris though.  I think the quiet down some once you start getting some heat in them too.  

The wavy rotors also pulse the brakes slightly too.

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16 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

Not like the Polaris though.  I think the quiet down some once you start getting some heat in them too.  

The wavy rotors also pulse the brakes slightly too.

https://www.babbittsonline.com/oemparts/a/pol/659dfa505e76d618e8eaa046/brakes-brake-system

Need to find a picture of Polaris #2209871 but only $99 ?

I see they use the expensive rotor as well but it's only $455 

Cat marks up Wildwood parts a lot as well.  

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8 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

https://www.babbittsonline.com/oemparts/a/pol/659dfa505e76d618e8eaa046/brakes-brake-system

Need to find a picture of Polaris #2209871 but only $99 ?

I see they use the expensive rotor as well but it's only $455 

Cat marks up Wildwood parts a lot as well.  

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As I've discussed before, Polaris now builds a better XC sled out of the crate then Cat does.

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