mnstang Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 14 hours ago, AK440 said: And yet Polaris went with a 136” skid on their Cross Country 600 and won everything. Still waiting to read your enlightened reply why Herf was hitting the bottom of the whoops in this video. Come on buddy! It’s common knowledge that the general riding public holds the opinion of an unknown, amateur class racer like yourself in the highest regard. You're so right, didn't you see my updated diagrams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted November 27, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted November 27, 2022 Poor @AK440 ... Such a whiney little cunt that still is too embarrassed to say what Sled he actually owns and rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, krom said: Hate to go back on topic... both sleds in that pic are 137's The rear arm is mounted forward on the rails, and the lower pivot is shorter Front arm is moved forward a lot, as has the shock which looks to be at a different angle. Driveshaft, steering post, and rider are all moved forward too. Front suspension is moved forward, has more caster, and the different top a arm geometry will make the caster decrease as the suspension compresses (or increase as it extends) are we thinking easier to compress and faster transfer in the skid? looking at the spindles I'm compelled to think Cat guys are going to start shimming their skis like the Polaris guys have been. would be interesting to see a side angle with someone actually sitting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, krom said: Hate to go back on topic... both sleds in that pic are 137's The rear arm is mounted forward on the rails, and the lower pivot is shorter Front arm is moved forward a lot, as has the shock which looks to be at a different angle. Driveshaft, steering post, and rider are all moved forward too. Front suspension is moved forward, has more caster, and the different top a arm geometry will make the caster decrease as the suspension compresses (or increase as it extends) Ahhh I assumed the Procross was a 129 vs 137. That definitely changes everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, mnstang said: You're so right, didn't you see my updated diagrams? No. How about replying to a post with them? Looks like your amateur racing experience also applies to the lack of Internet forum skills as well. 1 hour ago, EvilBird said: Poor @AK440 ... Such a whiney little cunt that still is too embarrassed to say what Sled he actually owns and rides Why so angry? Do you lash out with name calling because you can’t debate intelligently? 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: you're doubting me? she's told me in the past you have multiple personality disorder and are a bed wetter @SnowRider https://www.freedomsledder.com/index.php?/profile/32-snowrider/ https://www.freedomsledder.com/index.php?/profile/1343-ak440/ Ahhh…. so you are going to use deflection and ignore my response to you about your moronic statement about 136 tipped rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Guess I'm doing something right, I have a "lack of internet forum skills". Hey professional forum guy I'd love to learn more of your forum ways but I have to continue changing my garage up for winter, then I have some snowmobiles to work on and maybe tune if I am lucky. Maybe later on I'll practice my forum skills if I pull an all nighter. Keep kicking ass bud! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that would be a tipped rail 136... are you familiar with what that means or does it require explanation? read what I said about the rails 15 hours ago, AK440 said: So you also can’t measure apparently. Last time I checked, snow was soft and everything sinks down into it a little bit. You are actually arguing the minuscule amount the 136 rails are tipped up that the rear of the track won’t touch going through the bumps or whoops. Just so I understand completely, you are saying the rails are tipped up what amount, 1”? Or is it 2”? Hell maybe 3”? Now, I don’t have your reading glasses equipped calibrated eyeballs but I can’t tell that the rails are tipped up to any discernible degree with their Polaris Cross Country sled sitting on a hard flat floor in photos. So how in the fuck would the entire length of the rail not come into contact going through whoops? where in the above statement do you see me posting anything about whatever the fuck it is you are ranting about in your following post? please point it out... use your crayons or a black sharpie if need be. the tipped rails (according to Polaris or a company like Ice Age) is between 2-3 degrees at the end of the rail to make it turn on hard pack like a sled with a shorter skid... in the case of the 136 with tipped rails it's supposed to handle and turn like a 128 under those circumstances. so what kind of sled do you have? i'm dying to know, hardly slept and couldn't finish my filet mignon last night because of it. Edited November 27, 2022 by Crnr2Crnr backpeddle initiated :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted November 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: read what I said about the rails where in the above statement do you see me posting anything about whatever the fuck it is you are ranting about in your following post? please point it out... use your crayons or a black sharpie if need be. the tipped rails (according to Polaris or a company like Ice Age) is between 2-3 degrees at the end of the rail to make it turn on hard pack like a sled with a shorter skid... in the case of the 136 with tipped rails it's supposed to handle and turn like a 128 under those circumstances. so what kind of sled do you have? i'm dying to know, hardly slept and couldn't finish my filet mignon last night because of it. why are you hiding behind this alias @SnowRider or do you prefer @AK440 ? that's pretty fucking cowardly in my book... but carry on. WTF are you babbling about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: WTF are you babbling about? too busy to change user ID's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted November 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 27, 2022 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: too busy to change user ID's ? You’re barking up the wrong tree. @ckf if I have any dupes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym Ramstud Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Gym was wondering about this AK feller. Gym figured he was some sort of athlete or maybe knew a thing or two. Gym is going back to reading technical articles and recall information about Polaris snowmobiles as there is nothing new or relevant in this thread. Gym just got done spreading more gravel on the driveway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, SnowRider said: You’re barking up the wrong tree. @ckf if I have any dupes. Nope, you have never had a dupe on FS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, SnowRider said: You’re barking up the wrong tree. @ckf if I have any dupes. my bad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 7 hours ago, mnstang said: Guess I'm doing something right, I have a "lack of internet forum skills". Hey professional forum guy I'd love to learn more of your forum ways but I have to continue changing my garage up for winter, then I have some snowmobiles to work on and maybe tune if I am lucky. Maybe later on I'll practice my forum skills if I pull an all nighter. Keep kicking ass bud! Tune sleds, for what? Running in the ditch banger class against 20 year old Pro-X’s? 😂🤣 The only requirement for that class is you have your safety gear, the sled has a working head, tail & brake light and be equipped with a teather. Fricking hardcore racer we’ve got here. 6 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: read what I said about the rails where in the above statement do you see me posting anything about whatever the fuck it is you are ranting about in your following post? please point it out... use your crayons or a black sharpie if need be. the tipped rails (according to Polaris or a company like Ice Age) is between 2-3 degrees at the end of the rail to make it turn on hard pack like a sled with a shorter skid... in the case of the 136 with tipped rails it's supposed to handle and turn like a 128 under those circumstances. so what kind of sled do you have? i'm dying to know, hardly slept and couldn't finish my filet mignon last night because of it. What the fuck does turning have to do with bridging whoops? First rule of holes is to quit digging if you don’t want to go any deeper. Oh, oh! what kind of sled do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune46x Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Holy fuck.. I cant believe I read all of this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, AK440 said: Tune sleds, for what? Running in the ditch banger class against 20 year old Pro-X’s? 😂🤣 The only requirement for that class is you have your safety gear, the sled has a working head, tail & brake light and be equipped with a teather. Fricking hardcore racer we’ve got here. What the fuck does turning have to do with bridging whoops? First rule of holes is to quit digging if you don’t want to go any deeper. Oh, oh! what kind of sled do you have? No, not tuning a sled for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, AK440 said: What the fuck does turning have to do with bridging whoops? First rule of holes is to quit digging if you don’t want to go any deeper. Oh, oh! what kind of sled do you have? that's how the conversation about skid length began in the first place genius is it fan cooled? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that's how the conversation about skid length began in the first place genius is it fan cooled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, AK440 said: 3 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that's how the conversation about skid length began in the first place genius is it fan cooled? Expand good one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, fortune46x said: Holy fuck.. I cant believe I read all of this. I needed a dirty 30 of Hamm's to get through the last 3 pages or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: good one ? Uh huh, and how longer skids don’t drop down into whoops, bumps, whatever it is you want to call them. Try rereading your nonsensical posts and get back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that's how the conversation about skid length began in the first place genius is it fan cooled? Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 You sure are invested in this place, given how "pathetic" it is What's even more pathetic is a non-snowmobiler trolling a current events/political forum that has minimal snowmobile topics LOL On 11/10/2021 at 3:42 PM, AK440 said: This forum is so pathetic. No traffic, just a bunch of aging, bitter guys who got banned from HCS months ago and still bitch about it every week. I have an account on HCS and that forum is so much better now that the sand-in-vag crowd was banished to here. Getting you sad fucks riled up is way too easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, AK440 said: Uh huh, and how longer skids don’t drop down into whoops, bumps, whatever it is you want to call them. Try rereading your nonsensical posts and get back to me. I'm too busy still laughing at your retarded snowbike thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I'm too busy still laughing at your retarded snowbike thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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