Rod Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 And everyone being fags for EV's don't even have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 16, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 16, 2022 No way states or the US in general can upgrade the electrical grid in time for that. Even Musk and Toyota CEO admit this and they are likely the most knowledgeable EV people in the world. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2020/12/21/toyota-ceo-agrees-with-elon-musk-we-dont-have-enough-electricity-to-electrify-all-the-cars-n1222999 Let’s stipulate one more fact: Whether cars keep burning gas or run on electricity, Toyota is poised to make and sell millions of electric vehicles. It already has the game-changing solid-state battery coming on line. It launched the Prius way back in 1997. Toyota has not only not resisted the adaptation of EVs, it has led the way. Fundamentally, Toyota does not care if cars are powered by gas or nuclear fusion engines as long as it maintains its position and sells millions of them. So Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda’s comments at the company’s year-end press conference deserve notice and no little amount of respect. He knows more about cars and their economic ecosystem than just about anyone else on the planet. The Wall Street Journal was in attendance and noted the CEO’s disdain for EVs boils down to his belief they’ll ruin businesses, require massive investments, and even emit more carbon dioxide than combustion-engined vehicles. “The current business model of the car industry is going to collapse,” he said. “The more EVs we build, the worse carbon dioxide gets… When politicians are out there saying, ‘Let’s get rid of all cars using gasoline,’ do they understand this?” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 11 hours ago, BOHICA said: Starting after 2035…. https://cleantechnica.com/2022/08/15/massachusetts-enacts-a-climate-law-of-its-own/ new law bans the sale of gasoline- and diesel-powered cars and trucks after 2035. Idiots you can cheer for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 16, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 16, 2022 My House in CT on the Mass border just went up in value I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 “Citing ‘significant material cost increases and other factors,’ Ford’s announcement revealed price hikes between $6,000 and $8,500 for its electric vehicles. The F-150 Lightning Pro, for example, will sell for $46,974 — a $7,000 increase from the $39,947 charged for last year’s model. GM likewise increased the cost of its electric Hummer by $6,250 last month. “The price hikes are comparable to the $7,500 tax credits for new electric vehicles included in the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, which currently awaits President Joe Biden’s signature.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: “The price hikes are comparable to the $7,500 tax credits for new electric vehicles included in the $740 billion Inflation Reduction Act, which currently awaits President Joe Biden’s signature.” Imagine that. Edited August 18, 2022 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 9:39 AM, EvilBird said: My House in CT on the Mass border just went up in value I guess 3 of the 4 property lines at my home are in CT and one is Mass. Don't kid yourself CT is every bit as stupid and will follow suit soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 New York State's got that out-stupided.. They're looking to ban gas hookups to all new housing. Considering the lock on politics NYC has on the state, they'll probably get it. Once everything is all electric, imagine the chaos and mayhem when Russian/NK/Chinese/etc hackers shut down the grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 8:21 AM, racer254 said: I think this is great, let one or 2 states try this out and see how it works for them. we will look like Cuba in no time with 50 year old gas cars cobbled together all over the place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 18, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said: 3 of the 4 property lines at my home are in CT and one is Mass. Don't kid yourself CT is every bit as stupid and will follow suit soon enough. Yeah I am sure you are right, its coming everywhere eventually I guess if things keep going like its going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Internal combustion fossil fueled engines will be a thing of the past in 25 years. They are dirty as fuck and fuel efficiency has not improved much. My 2012 Expy V8 gets 15 mpg. My 1970 Chevelle V8 got 15 mpg. So in 52 years there’s no improvement because of big oil. im happy state government steps up and mandates a phase out of fossil fueled vehicles. think of this……back when Henry Ford started selling gas cars horse owners said their won’t be enough gas stations to fuel those cars it’s gonna fail. So after 120 years it’s time to get off the tits of big oil. FUCK THEM UP THE ASS WITH A STILLSON WRENCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: Internal combustion fossil fueled engines will be a thing of the past in 25 years. They are dirty as fuck and fuel efficiency has not improved much. My 2012 Expy V8 gets 15 mpg. My 1970 Chevelle V8 got 15 mpg. So in 52 years there’s no improvement because of big oil. im happy state government steps up and mandates a phase out of fossil fueled vehicles. think of this……back when Henry Ford started selling gas cars horse owners said their won’t be enough gas stations to fuel those cars it’s gonna fail. So after 120 years it’s time to get off the tits of big oil. FUCK THEM UP THE ASS WITH A STILLSON WRENCH You're an absolute idiot in every way imaginable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 9:39 AM, EvilBird said: My House in CT on the Mass border just went up in value I guess doubtful, people want to live in MA no one really want to live in CT outside NYers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 None of my 5.3's were great on fuel. Just ok. Not terrible or good.this 6.2 suburban is ridiculous on fuel and has good power The last family trip it averaged around 24 mpg over 1600 miles over city and highway I'd say the last 10 years things really improved. I can get over 600:miles on a tank of fuel. EV's have a long row to hoe to beat that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ford-f-150-lightning-ownership-costs-calculated-electricity-vs-gasoline/#:~:text=Using all this information, the,and 6.7 cents per mile. Mitchell from Town and Country TV used the mileage of 16,500 miles driven per year, with about 55% of that being city driving for these numbers. The timeline used is 10 years. The cost of electricity used in the equation is $0.14 kWh, and the price of gas used is $4.99 per gallon. That’s the average cost in the area for electricity and gas at the time. Using all this information, the cost of charging the Ford F-150 Lightning home is $1,107 per year. That breaks down to $92 a month, $21 a week, and 6.7 cents per mile. Over 10 years that works out to be $11,070 in electricity. For the gasoline-powered Ford F-150, the cost of gas works out to be $4,333 per year. That’s $361 a month and $83 a week. That works out to 26.3 cents per mile and $43,330 over 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 18, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Angry ginger said: doubtful, people want to live in MA no one really want to live in CT outside NYers. Are you retarded ? I have three people in my neighborhood alone who just moved here and all told me they had to get the fuck outta Mass Massachusetts fucking sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 18, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Mainecat said: Internal combustion fossil fueled engines will be a thing of the past in 25 years. They are dirty as fuck and fuel efficiency has not improved much. My 2012 Expy V8 gets 15 mpg. My 1970 Chevelle V8 got 15 mpg. So in 52 years there’s no improvement because of big oil. im happy state government steps up and mandates a phase out of fossil fueled vehicles. think of this……back when Henry Ford started selling gas cars horse owners said their won’t be enough gas stations to fuel those cars it’s gonna fail. So after 120 years it’s time to get off the tits of big oil. FUCK THEM UP THE ASS WITH A STILLSON WRENCH So when You buying a EV ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted August 18, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, EvilBird said: Are you retarded ? I have three people in my neighborhood alone who just moved here and all told me they had to get the fuck outta Mass Massachusetts fucking sucks Mass does suck. but there are a real lot of high paying jobs there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 18, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Mass does suck. but there are a real lot of high paying jobs there. Yeah same with Connecticut. I look at Mass just like CT for the most part , same climate , same basic area, same type of people for the most part. Both states have their advantages. ...im 5 min from the border.....Its not really a jab rather than calling out the stupidness of saying people want to live in MA and nobody wants to live in CT . Greenwich CT hasn't been consistently ranked one of the richest parts of the Nation for years and years because nobody except NYers want to live here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 18, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 18, 2022 funny thing I notice my whole life , Only people from MA seem to hate CT . And people from CT seem to hate Massholes usually. We are like step brothers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 55 minutes ago, EvilBird said: Are you retarded ? I have three people in my neighborhood alone who just moved here and all told me they had to get the fuck outta Mass Massachusetts fucking sucks I think that is a mixed bag. A buddy of mine moved 1100 feet which took him from Granby CT to Southwick Mass. Those 1100 feet cut his property tax by half or more which around here is quite a few bucks every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 18, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: I think that is a mixed bag. A buddy of mine moved 1100 feet which took him from Granby CT to Southwick Mass. Those 1100 feet cut his property tax by half or more which around here is quite a few bucks every year. I bet I know Him . thats basically where im at Is he on the lake now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, EvilBird said: funny thing I notice my whole life , Only people from MA seem to hate CT . And people from CT seem to hate Massholes usually. We are like step brothers and as a commercial driver I hate both massholes and coneticunts equally, no different than canadians 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, EvilBird said: I bet I know Him . thats basically where im at Is he on the lake now ? No he is a horse guy. Lives out behind the big Y. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 18, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, 01mxz800 said: and as a commercial driver I hate both massholes and coneticunts equally, no different than canadians Yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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