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Angry ginger Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 15 hours ago, spin_dry said: Fox News is saying, chance it! Give them the planes. of course they are. they love them some war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 16 hours ago, Carlos Danger said: I think 28 planes plus the remainder of Ukraine's air force coupled with the surveillance assets the US has on theater could end the war in Ukraine's favor. So it comes back to what do we think Putin will do if cornered. Imo....there isn't much difference in sending in planes than there is providing them with Javelins and stinger missiles to destroy tanks and planes.....but it won't happen under this wishi-washi and weak administration...they think it is too provoking and have coward to Putin in every situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Imo....there isn't much difference in sending in planes than there is providing them with Javelins and stinger missiles to destroy tanks and planes.....but it won't happen under this wishi-washi and weak administration...they think it is too provoking and have coward to Putin in every situation. It would definitely lead to escalation according to many…Jets are much more provocative then shoulder fired weapons IMO. I thought we were tired of being the worlds policeman? 🤷🏻 Edited March 10, 2022 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: It would definitely lead to escalation according to many…Jets are much more provocative then shoulder fired weapons IMO. I understand the resistance to providing a no-fly zone but I still think we should send in the planes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: I understand the resistance to providing a no-fly zone but I still think we should send in the planes Right…a no fly zone would absolutely result in a US/Russian confrontation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I thought we were tired of being the worlds policeman? 🤷🏻 Nah I'm sorry, once they started purposely bombing hospitals and killing children etc.....we need to give them all the help within reason and providing them with planes is within reason. Its time to stop bowing down to the war criminal Putin. He is laughing his ass off at us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Nah I'm sorry, once they started purposely bombing hospitals and killing children etc.....we need to give them all the help within reason and providing them with planes is within reason. Its time to stop bowing down to the war criminal Putin. He is laughing his ass off at us Why do we have to do it? Let the EU handle it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Why do we have to do it? Let the EU handle it. For the most part they are…..but of course America is supposed to lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, spin_dry said: For the most part they are…..but of course America is supposed to lead. Has the EU provided fighter jets to Ukraine?🤷🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 6 hours ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Imo....there isn't much difference in sending in planes than there is providing them with Javelins and stinger missiles to destroy tanks and planes.....but it won't happen under this wishi-washi and weak administration...they think it is too provoking and have coward to Putin in every situation. The Javelins are only going to make the war longer and more costly for the Russians where the planes could make their goals unobtainable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 hours ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Nah I'm sorry, once they started purposely bombing hospitals and killing children etc.....we need to give them all the help within reason and providing them with planes is within reason. Its time to stop bowing down to the war criminal Putin. He is laughing his ass off at us Russia has been doing that and worse for years in Syria, SA had starved to death 10's of thousands in Yemin. Let the EU handle it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 11, 2022 41 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Russia has been doing that and worse for years in Syria, SA had starved to death 10's of thousands in Yemin. Let the EU handle it. Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Right…a no fly zone would absolutely result in a US/Russian confrontation. 8 hours ago, spin_dry said: For the most part they are…..but of course America is supposed to lead. You guys should let Joe Lieberman know. He was in the WSJ today calling for a no fly zone. Mr. moderate Democrat. But the neocons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: You guys should let Joe Lieberman know. He was in the WSJ today calling for a no fly zone. Mr. moderate Democrat. But the neocons. Let the EU do it we don't need to take the lead on any of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 11, 2022 Why does the US even needs to be involved in this Poland should just send them the Migs. Especially if they are worried about Putin continuing to keep rolling west. By the time these idiot politicians are done talking, or listening to Kamala laugh like stooge, it'll be too late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Skidooski said: Why does the US even needs to be involved in this Poland should just send them the Migs. Especially if they are worried about Putin continuing to keep rolling west. By the time these idiot politicians are done talking, or listening to Kamala laugh like stooge, it'll be too late. Poland doesn't want to piss off the Ruskies, they want us to piss them off.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Poland doesn't want to piss off the Ruskies, they want us to piss them off.. Yeah but either way the jets would be coming from Poland in this case. If there's concerns about Russia coming into Poland, stopping them in Ukraine isn't such a bad idea. Keep it all contained there. A lot of countries have been sending all kinds of military hardware to Ukraine but somehow jets are crossing a line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Skidooski said: Yeah but either way the jets would be coming from Poland in this case. If there's concerns about Russia coming into Poland, stopping them in Ukraine isn't such a bad idea. Keep it all contained there. A lot of countries have been sending all kinds of military hardware to Ukraine but somehow jets are crossing a line I know, it's silly fodder for politicians..Like trying to get someone to lick the frozen street sign pole..No you, no you, no you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 18 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Has the EU provided fighter jets to Ukraine?🤷🏻 They tried...poland did anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted March 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 11, 2022 11 hours ago, 1jkw said: Russia has been doing that and worse for years in Syria, SA had starved to death 10's of thousands in Yemin. Let the EU handle it. Yeah.....I guess. It's hard not to let emotions play a role in this, especially with all the cellphone footage that we are seeing that we've never really seen in other wars. I think what bothers me the most is the indecisiveness of it all.... just last Sunday on all the morning news shows Blinken was saying it was a green light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Yeah.....I guess. It's hard not to let emotions play a role in this, especially with all the cellphone footage that we are seeing that we've never really seen in other wars. I think what bothers me the most is the indecisiveness of it all.... just last Sunday on all the morning news shows Blinken was saying it was a green light. I agree. For me it is much harder when the citizens are fighting back with everything they have, unlike Iraq and Afg. where not only won't they fight for themselves they will turn on our troops. I'd rather our country be willing to change strategies depending on conditions rather than do something to make matters worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Skidooski said: Why does the US even needs to be involved in this Poland should just send them the Migs. Especially if they are worried about Putin continuing to keep rolling west. By the time these idiot politicians are done talking, or listening to Kamala laugh like stooge, it'll be too late. Poles are not stupid, they are not looking to be attacked next. by funnneling them through the US it commits the US to the conflict. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 20 hours ago, spin_dry said: For the most part they are…..but of course America is supposed to lead. And pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Anler said: And pay I just read we are sending them 14 billion dollars............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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