The Statue of Liberty

[ICEMAN!]

Just now, Ez ryder said:

I am all for immigration of people . why is it we need to open the doors to country's on terror watch lists that the last administration listed as hot spots? what is the prob with a new administration putting on the breaks to review the proses in place to make dam sure it is the best it can be? 90 days is not the end of the word.

and IMHO we have enough issues with people living in poverty already here not sure why we need to take people with no skills  or real chance to contribute to society.

I believe 100% on a 3mo max on assistance for any new imports . I have contracts with some small towns public housing I see how a lot of this shit works out 1st hand.

 

Fine, impose a 3 month ban if the goal is to "keep America safe," but if that was actually the goal, wouldn't you consult with the agencies that are responsible for screening to see if this was even necessary?  Nobody even knew this was coming....weird eh?  Implement a solution for a problem that doesn't exist so you have time to see if a problem exists....   wtf is that?  Why would you do it in such a haphazard, disorganized and unprepared fashion so that people that have been already security cleared to the point that they have green cards end up gettinh caught up in it?  Why not put actual terrorist harbouring countries on the list like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc?  

This isn't about keeping America safe.  It's about Steve Bannon and his ideology and throwing red meat to the alt right whacko base.

[Ez ryder]

9 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

I guess it's just a cool story.

a story put in place before the libs turned the gate in to a registration station for life long public assistance . now the huddled masses of poor homeless and downtrodden have no real reason to contribute to society  

[Ez ryder]

2 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

Fine, impose a 3 month ban if the goal is to "keep America safe," but if that was actually the goal, wouldn't you consult with the agencies that are responsible for screening to see if this was even necessary?  Nobody even knew this was coming....weird eh?  Implement a solution for a problem that doesn't exist so you have time to see if a problem exists....   wtf is that?  Why would you do it in such a haphazard, disorganized and unprepared fashion so that people that have been already security cleared to the point that they have green cards end up gettinh caught up in it?  Why not put actual terrorist harbouring countries on the list like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc?  

This isn't about keeping America safe.  It's about Steve Bannon and his ideology and throwing red meat to the alt right whacko base.

no u would not when people are delaying confirmations of  the people u picked to run those agency's . pointlessly delaying because they know they don't have the votes to stop them to top it all off.

and every one knew it was coming he promised it for a yr when he was running . shocking I know a politician keeping all his promises

Edited January 31, 2017 by Ez ryder

[ArcticCrusher]

17 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

Fine, impose a 3 month ban if the goal is to "keep America safe," but if that was actually the goal, wouldn't you consult with the agencies that are responsible for screening to see if this was even necessary?  Nobody even knew this was coming....weird eh?  Implement a solution for a problem that doesn't exist so you have time to see if a problem exists....   wtf is that?  Why would you do it in such a haphazard, disorganized and unprepared fashion so that people that have been already security cleared to the point that they have green cards end up gettinh caught up in it?  Why not put actual terrorist harbouring countries on the list like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc?  

This isn't about keeping America safe.  It's about Steve Bannon and his ideology and throwing red meat to the alt right whacko base.

Please give it a rest.  Trudeau did not listen to the agencies when he went against them.

Nobody saw this coming?  Trump has been saying they need to vet them more.  

Would not have been a fan if he actually restricted travel on Canadian Muslims who have been here for some time and would be the first to say so.

[02sled]

13 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

Fine, impose a 3 month ban if the goal is to "keep America safe," but if that was actually the goal, wouldn't you consult with the agencies that are responsible for screening to see if this was even necessary?  Nobody even knew this was coming....weird eh?  Implement a solution for a problem that doesn't exist so you have time to see if a problem exists....   wtf is that?  Why would you do it in such a haphazard, disorganized and unprepared fashion so that people that have been already security cleared to the point that they have green cards end up gettinh caught up in it?  Why not put actual terrorist harbouring countries on the list like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc?  

This isn't about keeping America safe.  It's about Steve Bannon and his ideology and throwing red meat to the alt right whacko base.

Yeah right. Go to the people doing the screening today and ask them if they think they are doing a good job. 100% of them will tell you they're outstanding. Nobody is going to tell their boss they are doing a lousy job. The people seeking entry into the US haven't any entitlement or right to do so. They may be GRANTED permission or they may not be. It happens daily at any countries point of entry. 

So your theory is, risk letting a bunch of undesirable, possibly with links to terrorist organizations into the country while you ask the employees if they're doing a good job. 

How about learn  from the experiences of the European countries that have proven terrorists have been sneaking in as refugees and are now suffering the consequences. What? Couldn't happen in the US after all that American superiority says that it can't, just everywhere else. 

 

[ICEMAN!]

Just now, 02sled said:

Yeah right. Go to the people doing the screening today and ask them if they think they are doing a good job. 100% of them will tell you they're outstanding. Nobody is going to tell their boss they are doing a lousy job. The people seeking entry into the US haven't any entitlement or right to do so. They may be GRANTED permission or they may not be. It happens daily at any countries point of entry. 

So your theory is, risk letting a bunch of undesirable, possibly with links to terrorist organizations into the country while you ask the employees if they're doing a good job. 

How about learn  from the experiences of the European countries that have proven terrorists have been sneaking in as refugees and are now suffering the consequences. What? Couldn't happen in the US after all that American superiority says that it can't, just everywhere else. 

 

The European countries aren't screening the refugees, so your comparison makes no sense.

You guys realize that the odds of being killed by a refugee terrorist are 1 in 3.64 billion?  Of course you don't.

[02sled]

20 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

The European countries aren't screening the refugees, so your comparison makes no sense.

You guys realize that the odds of being killed by a refugee terrorist are 1 in 3.64 billion?  Of course you don't.

They are screening as best they can and are indeed turning many away. There's countless trying to sneak into th UK from France that are being blocked as an example. How about with so many wanting to claim refugee status you screen for more than just terrorist ties. Be choosy about the refugees you let in. How about selecting those that can speak the language, have job skills, are healthy and can contribute to society rather than just in the order they show up. Sorry to the ones that only speak Arabic, haven't any marketable skills or education, have health or mental issues that will be a lifelong burden on the system. There are far too many that fit the successful criteria and you can't help everyone 

Edited January 31, 2017 by 02sled

[ICEMAN!]

3 minutes ago, 02sled said:

They are screening as best they can and are indeed turning many away. There's countless trying to sneak into th UK from France that are being blocked as an example. How about with so many wanting to claim refugee status you screen for more than just terrorist ties. Be choosy about the refugees you let in. How about selecting those that can speak the language, have job skills, are healthy and can contribute to society rather than just in the order they show up. Sorry to the ones that only speak Arabic, haven't any marketable skills or education, have health or mental issues that will be a lifelong burden on the system. There are far too many that fit the successful criteria and you can't help everyone 

Great ideas!

So great in fact that someone else already thought of them and therefore we already do all that

[Sleepr2]

25 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

The European countries aren't screening the refugees, so your comparison makes no sense.

You guys realize that the odds of being killed by a refugee terrorist are 1 in 3.64 billion?  Of course you don't.

Migrants in Germany have committed 142,500 crimes in just six months, police figures have revealed

This was the equivalent of 780 crimes a day - an increase of nearly 40 percent over 2015, according to data from Germany's Federal Criminal Police Office

It comes as German chancellor Angela Merkel remains under pressure over her open-door policy on immigration amid concerns over how to integrate 900,000 newcomers who arrived last year.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3893436/Angela-Merkel-pressure-refugee-policy-revealed-migrants-committed-142-500-crimes-Germany-six-months-2016.html#ixzz4XLl7akMh 
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[ICEMAN!]

Just now, Sleepr2 said:

Migrants in Germany have committed 142,500 crimes in just six months, police figures have revealed

This was the equivalent of 780 crimes a day - an increase of nearly 40 percent over 2015, according to data from Germany's Federal Criminal Police Office

It comes as German chancellor Angela Merkel remains under pressure over her open-door policy on immigration amid concerns over how to integrate 900,000 newcomers who arrived last year.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3893436/Angela-Merkel-pressure-refugee-policy-revealed-migrants-committed-142-500-crimes-Germany-six-months-2016.html#ixzz4XLl7akMh 
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How is Germany screening their refugees?  Oh that's right, I already adresssd this, they aren't.

FAIL

[02sled]

Just now, ICEMAN! said:

Great ideas!

So great in fact that someone else already thought of them and therefore we already do all that

Obviously not since according to the media you love so much there are large numbers of refugees struggling with the language just as a starter and unemployed. 

[Sleepr2]

5 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

How is Germany screening their refugees?  Oh that's right, I already adresssd this, they aren't.

FAIL

Yeah, we really need more third world cult of death "refugees " face it, they're unwilling to become part of western society and France and Germany have learned the hard way.

[ICEMAN!]

16 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said:

Yeah, we really need more third world cult of death "refugees " face it, they're unwilling to become part of western society and France and Germany have learned the hard way.

Just do everyone a favour and  STFU about things you know nothing about, mmmmkay?

According to the Pew Research Center there are 3.3 million (or 1% of the population) Muslims living in the US. Furthermore, in the US Muslims make up 10% of US physicians, are the 2nd most educated group after the Jewish population, are as likely as other American households to report an income of $100,000 or more, and over 6,000 serve in the military[4].  The report found that Muslim Americans are “highly assimilated into American society and . . . largely content with their lives.”

http://www.fpri.org/2016/04/us-doesnt-muslim-problem-europe/

[Sleepr2]

4 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

Just do everyone a favour and  STFU about things you know nothing about, mmmmkay?

According to the Pew Research Center there are 3.3 million (or 1% of the population) Muslims living in the US. Furthermore, in the US Muslims make up 10% of US physicians, are the 2nd most educated group after the Jewish population, are as likely as other American households to report an income of $100,000 or more, and over 6,000 serve in the military[4].  The report found that Muslim Americans are “highly assimilated into American society and . . . largely content with their lives.”

http://www.fpri.org/2016/04/us-doesnt-muslim-problem-europe/

Fuck off, I don't take orders from self absorbed assholes' .

 

face it your "refugees " are not able or willingl to be part of western society and their religion of death has not place in any society that has progressed beyond the twelfth century 

Edited January 31, 2017 by Sleepr2

[Zambroski]

10 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said:

Fuck off, I don't take orders from self absorbed assholes' .

 

face it your "refugees " are not able or willingl to be part of western society and their religion of death has not place in any society that has progressed beyond the twelfth century 

That's a bingo.  And those fucking stats are skewed.  It's like the stats of being bitten by a shark.  ASTRONOMICAL.  But if you are actually in the ocean in the early morning ours around known shark "hang outs", while looking like a seal, well, you are a fucking idiot.  And so are these clowns that want to flood our cities with people that have absolutely NO INTENTION of melting into our society or acknowledging the rights of ALL of our citizens....including their own nationals.

Muslim community calendar:  

*Stoning of gays and sexual deviants on Thursday night 8-tba

*Teenage clit removals Saturday noon-8pm

*Face acid etching classes for shaming violations Sunday all day

[revkevsdi]

13 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

While they are grinding those words off of the Statue of Liberty (What did the French know anyway) the can change the national anthem. "Home of the free and land of the Brave"??????? Yeah right. 

[Zambroski]

Just now, revkevsdi said:

While they are grinding those words off of the Statue of Liberty (What did the French know anyway) the can change the national anthem. "Home of the free and land of the Brave"??????? Yeah right. 

Settle down spaz.  

[Boered]

15 hours ago, Ez ryder said:

show us all how big of a person u are and take in a family from any one of the war torn country's .

then show us your charitable giving deducts from last yr.

why don't u go over to Aston Kutchers house . u know the one behind the wall with the armed guards at the gate . u guys can talk about how accepting u both are  

Muslims would not want to live with a gay man, otherwise I am sure Ice would take in a few of them.

 

[Kivalo]

1 hour ago, revkevsdi said:

While they are grinding those words off of the Statue of Liberty (What did the French know anyway) the can change the national anthem. "Home of the free and land of the Brave"??????? Yeah right. 

Yeah lets grind them off Lady Liberty, where are they located again?

 

Oh and what french people came up with that poem anyhow?

Edited January 31, 2017 by Kivalo

[hayward]

5 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

Fine, impose a 3 month ban if the goal is to "keep America safe," but if that was actually the goal, wouldn't you consult with the agencies that are responsible for screening to see if this was even necessary?  Nobody even knew this was coming....weird eh?  Implement a solution for a problem that doesn't exist so you have time to see if a problem exists....   wtf is that?  Why would you do it in such a haphazard, disorganized and unprepared fashion so that people that have been already security cleared to the point that they have green cards end up gettinh caught up in it?  Why not put actual terrorist harbouring countries on the list like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc?  

This isn't about keeping America safe.  It's about Steve Bannon and his ideology and throwing red meat to the alt right whacko base.

So the way i'm understanding it now is, the U.S. currently feels that people from  Afg, Pak, and SA  are being vetted properly therefore the reason why they are not on the "travel ban" list (even though it's technically not a "travel ban").  It's the other 7 listed that the U.S. has a problem with the lack of information sharing going on over who is traveling from those specific countries.

If it were a muslim ban, obviously it would include all countries having muslims in them.  So I guess that rules that theory out too.

[SVT MXZ XRS]

3 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

Just do everyone a favour and  STFU about things you know nothing about, mmmmkay?

According to the Pew Research Center there are 3.3 million (or 1% of the population) Muslims living in the US. Furthermore, in the US Muslims make up 10% of US physicians, are the 2nd most educated group after the Jewish population, are as likely as other American households to report an income of $100,000 or more, and over 6,000 serve in the military[4].  The report found that Muslim Americans are “highly assimilated into American society and . . . largely content with their lives.”

http://www.fpri.org/2016/04/us-doesnt-muslim-problem-europe/

You should STFU and do the same , you little cunt 

13 minutes ago, Boered said:

Muslims would not want to live with a gay man, otherwise I am sure Ice would take in a few of them.

 

[Skidooski]

21 minutes ago, Kivalo said:

Yeah lets grind them off Lady Liberty, where are they located again?

 

Oh and what french people came up with that poem anyhow?

[Cold War]

24 minutes ago, Kivalo said:

Yeah lets grind them off Lady Liberty, where are they located again?

 

Oh and what french people came up with that poem anyhow?

 

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

Settle down spaz.  

 

[Anler]

She's from France you know. Can you say freedom fries?

[02sled]

Just for Kivalo who doesn't seem to know much about the history

https://www.nps.gov/stli/learn/historyculture/the-french-connection.htm