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"Our hospitals look like war zones": Texas battling influx of COVID-19 cases


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Gotta enforce mask wearing and close down high risk activities for a while.  AZ was getting crushed two weeks ago but there's cautious optimism we've turned a corner here.  Hospitalizations are down.  Testing is still kindof a mess.

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Since January I said we need a federal plan. The virus does not stop at the state line.

Fuck Trump and his amateur staff.

You Trump supporters are seeing the results of a presidency with zero government experience.

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2 hours ago, spin_dry said:

That’s reassuring :lol: 

CDC also has done a study of 6000 people for coronavirus antibodies that show as many as 24 to 1 vs positive cases.   Want to know what that drops the mortality rate to?

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3 minutes ago, Highmark said:

CDC also has done a study of 6000 people for coronavirus antibodies that show as many as 24 to 1 vs positive cases.   Want to know what that drops the mortality rate to?

Sure. It’s all an overreaction. 

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3 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Sure. It’s all an overreaction. 

For those with certain pre existing conditions no....for everyone else....fuck yes.   

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2 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

10x the death rate of seasonal flu. 

Not even fucking close and the season flu we have significant success with vaccines.

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15 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Not even fucking close and the season flu we have significant success with vaccines.

Sure it is. Seasonal flu has a 80% silent infection rate. You need to be honest about this stuff. The significant success you talk about is laughable. I don’t even get a vaccine because the success rate is so low. 

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4 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Sure it is. Seasonal flu has a 80% silent infection rate. You need to be honest about this stuff. 

Dude do you have any idea how the calculate influenza deaths in the US?  Its nothing like what is being done with Covid.

From the CDC website.

Influenza-Associated Deaths in the U.S.

What methods are used to estimate the number of influenza-associated deaths in the U.S.?

The methods to estimate the annual number of influenza-associated deaths  have been described in detail elsewhere (1-2). The model uses a ratio of deaths-to-hospitalizations in order to estimate the total influenza-associated deaths from the estimated number of influenza-associated hospitalizations.

We first look at how many in-hospital deaths were observed in FluSurv-NET. The in-hospital deaths are adjusted for under-detection of influenza using methods similar to those described above for hospitalizations using data on the frequency and sensitivity of influenza testing. Second, because not all deaths related to influenza occur in the hospital, we use death certificate data to estimate how likely  deaths are to occur outside the hospital.  We look at death certificates that have pneumonia or influenza causes (P&I), other respiratory and circulatory causes (R&C), or other non-respiratory, non-circulatory causes of death, because deaths related to influenza may not have influenza listed as a cause of death. We use information on the causes of death from FluSurv-NET to determine the mixture of P&I, R&C, and other coded deaths to include in our investigation of death certificate data. Finally, once we estimate the proportion of influenza-associated deaths that occurred outside of the hospital, we can estimate the deaths-to-hospitalization ratio.

Data needed to estimate influenza-associated deaths may lag for up to two years after the season ends. When this is not yet available for the season being estimated, we adjust based on values observed in prior seasons (e.g., the 2010-2011 season through the 2016-2017 season) and update the estimates when more current data become available.

 

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12 hours ago, spin_dry said:

Sure it is. Seasonal flu has a 80% silent infection rate. You need to be honest about this stuff. The significant success you talk about is laughable. I don’t even get a vaccine because the success rate is so low. 

Uhhhh do you even know how the flu vaccine is developed every year? And then correlate that with the annual success rate of said vaccine? Then compare that with your above statement 

The success rate is a crap shoot as no body knows what strain of virus will be the main infector for the year. Sometimes they hit it sometimes they dont.

 

You sure like to spread your propaganda you spew daily.

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21 minutes ago, Roosting said:

Uhhhh do you even know how the flu vaccine is developed every year? And then correlate that with the annual success rate of said vaccine? Then compare that with your above statement 

The success rate is a crap shoot as no body knows what strain of virus will be the main infector for the year. Sometimes they hit it sometimes they dont.

 

You sure like to spread your propaganda you spew daily.

The vaccination rate is around 30-35%. efficacy is around 35%. Do the long math and you’ll see how poor it’s effectiveness proves to be. It’s a major cash cow for pharmaco. The formula of a chosen flu vaccine is extrapolated from sampling data in other parts of the world where the flu virus is emerging. Data collected from the WHO. It’s proven to be highly inaccurate. 

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So in the drive through this morning i am reading an article about covid deaths.

 

For all the claims of these states fucking up the worst death tolls per 100,000 that exist are in none of the states being talked about.  NY still is the leader in killing people with Covid per 100k.  Florida and Maine with the oldest populations are in the single digits,  NYC over 100 per along with MA.    

Reality is deaths per 100k is what should be looked at along with hospitalizations.  Confirmed cases is immaterial.  

People need to stop panicking until those start climbing to unacceptable levels.  

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17 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Since January I said we need a federal plan. The virus does not stop at the state line.

Fuck Trump and his amateur staff.

You Trump supporters are seeing the results of a presidency with zero government experience.

First that is complete fucking bullshit you were making that claim in January.   You bitched when Trump shut down travel from China at the end of January.

 

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

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