frenchy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Can you provide any science textbook or school curriculum that states that the big bang created the universe? I contend you are absolutely incorrect and that you can't provide either of the aforementioned items to show the big bang as a creation path. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: The same people who think the earth is flat , or 6000 years old or that we cant see lightyears into space or that a big bang never happened etc etc. They think that because they celebrate the rejection of science and glorify ignorance. You've jumped in their wagon it seems you obviously haven't listened to or read a word I've said. Fundamentalists are abject retards. I've never waivered from that position. Thankfully they are the minority in the Christian faith outside of America. You can believe in a higher power without taking the bible literally. Talk about jumping in wagons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, frenchy said: you obviously haven't listened to or read a word I've said. Fundamentalists are abject retards. I've never waivered from that position. Thankfully they are the minority in the Christian faith outside of America. You can believe in a higher power without taking the bible literally. Talk about jumping in wagons. You are babbling away assigning positions to scientific theories which have never been pushed. You're jumping the shark and Neal is bludgeoning you. Take a break 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, frenchy said: you obviously haven't listened to or read a word I've said. Fundamentalists are abject retards. I've never waivered from that position. Thankfully they are the minority in the Christian faith outside of America. You can believe in a higher power without taking the bible literally. Talk about jumping in wagons. I don't know of many christians who take the bible literally. Born agains and evangelicals though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Science can provide evidence for earth being an oblate spheroid. Reasonable certainty, but solipsism comes into play with "certain". Neal What about youtube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 29, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 29, 2020 16 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Sure I engage in the actions and mental states (can be shown via brain scan) that we use to define love. Neal Really....can it be measured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, f7ben said: You are babbling away assigning positions to scientific theories which have never been pushed. You're jumping the shark and Neal is bludgeoning you. Take a break ah yes with his lug flick mentality. Yeah, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Really....can it be measured? Indeed, we can measure brain response and map feelings we use to qualify love. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, frenchy said: Can you? Or is it yet again more bluster from you with no evidence to support the claim? Kinda like a god... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, frenchy said: you obviously haven't listened to or read a word I've said. Fundamentalists are abject retards. I've never waivered from that position. Thankfully they are the minority in the Christian faith outside of America. You can believe in a higher power without taking the bible literally. Talk about jumping in wagons. So kind of a lukewarm faith, or a buffet of religion, picking only bits you like... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Anler said: What about youtube? Is da bomb. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Can you? Or is it yet again more bluster from you with no evidence to support the claim? Kinda like a god... Neal there is no bluster. I know what the theory is. But how it is spoken about while discussed in the media, or how it is presented when taught in school it is presented as absolute fact (with regards to how our universe was created) when it is not. Difference is I know the existence of a higher power can never be proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: So kind of a lukewarm faith, or a buffet of religion, picking only bits you like... Neal keep trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, frenchy said: there is no bluster. I know what the theory is. But how it is spoken about while discussed in the media, or how it is presented when taught in school it is presented as absolute fact (with regards to how our universe was created) when it is not. Difference is I know the existence of a higher power can never be proven. You have proved here multiple times you don't. Can you provide a discussion from the media, or any school curriculum that presents the big bang theory as a origin path? Any at all? Because I think you are 100% full of shit wrong. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, frenchy said: keep trying. No need, you are making a show of it on your own. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: You have proved here multiple times you don't. Can you provide a discussion from the media, or any school curriculum that presents the big bang theory as a origin path? Any at all? Because I think you are 100% full of shit wrong. Neal so to clarify your position is that the Big Bang isn't referred to as the phenomena that created the universe when discussed in print or video? Edited January 29, 2020 by frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, frenchy said: so to clarify your position is that the Big Bang isn't referred to as the phenomena that created the universe when discussed in print or video? Are you still frantically searching on google and this is stalling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 12:16 PM, f7ben said: I mean I cant see an atom , am I supposed to just believe that massive energy can be released from something microscopic? How am I supposed to know who to believe? Scientists tell me why 100 megatons of energy can be released from something the size of a coffee can.... But religious people tell me that's the power of god exploding from the warhead? Or are the videos just fake and atomic energy is a make believe story like the round earth or galaxies and stars??? I'm so confused , I don't know who to trust anymore????? Great post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kev144 said: Are you still frantically searching on google and this is stalling? just trying to figure out what he's asking for. If lug flick has taught us anything it's that he can never be wrong even when proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 29, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Reality is we do not know the size of this universe, if its the only one, what caused it or if there is a higher power. We don't know what we don't know. Part of so called science is as known as whether or not their is a God. Edited January 29, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, Highmark said: Reality is we do not know the size of this universe, if its the only one, what caused it or if there is a higher power. We don't know what we don't know. I mean we can find alot about earth itself by the minerals miles below us. All we know of a higher power is books written by men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 29, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kev144 said: I mean we can find alot about earth itself by the minerals miles below us. All we know of a higher power is books written by men. Absolutely. There is no proof to many that God exists but I've yet to see anything that proves without a shadow of a doubt he/she/it doesn't exist. Is it not strange that thru the millions of years of evolution only human's have evolved into the level of intelligence and sophistication? Is it not possible that the similarities in species (internal organs for example) might indicate intelligent design in some way? I'm not saying creationism but it does make one think. Edited January 29, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Reality is we do not know the size of this universe, if its the only one, what caused it or if there is a higher power. We don't know what we don't know. Part of so called science is as known as whether or not their is a God. That's why science refers to it as YHE KNOWN UNIVERSE fucking A man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Reality is we do not know the size of this universe, if its the only one, what caused it or if there is a higher power. We don't know what we don't know. Part of so called science is as known as whether or not their is a God. This was basically my point in my initial post in this thread before I got Neal'ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Absolutely. There is no proof to many that God exists but I've yet to see anything that proves without a shadow of a doubt he/she/it doesn't exist. Prove spiderman doesn't exist GO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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