Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 29, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 29, 2019 Bernie Sanders doesn't plan on releasing a detailed plan of how to finance his single-payer Medicare for All plan, he told CNBC's John Harwood on Tuesday. "You're asking me to come up with an exact detailed plan of how every American — how much you're going to pay more in taxes, how much I'm going to pay," he said. "I don't think I have to do that right now." The Vermont senator explained that before getting to his detailed financing plan, he wants Americans to understand that they currently pay more for health care than people in other countries. "The fight right now is to get the American people to understand that we're spending twice as much per capita — that of course, we can pay for it," he said. "We're paying it now in a very reactionary, regressive way. I want to pay for it in a progressive way." His comments come as Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren — who backs Sanders' Medicare for All plan — is being pressed on how she would want the country to pay for such a plan. She has said she will be releasing a plan for financing Medicare for All in the coming weeks. Harwood asked Sanders if he thinks it's foolish for Warren to release her own detailed plan. Sanders said he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Their plans are rape Americans No one deserves to accumulate money except the people like crazy Bernie and chief spreading bull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, Pete said: Their plans are rape Americans No one deserves to accumulate money except the people like crazy Bernie and chief spreading bull And Trumpco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mainecat said: And Trumpco At what point would you personally walk up to someone and tell them they made enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 29, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 29, 2019 He’s the only one that even comes close to admitting that taxes will go up for middle class to support it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 we currently pay more for medical insurance than any other country on earth. The funds already exist and are being taken from either the employer or employee or both through HC premiums. Those premiums go away and then you pay it in taxes. properly run it nets out the same to lower for the majority and your nor beholden to an employer for your insurance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: we currently pay more for medical insurance than any other country on earth. The funds already exist and are being taken from either the employer or employee or both through HC premiums. Those premiums go away and then you pay it in taxes. properly run it nets out the same to lower for the majority and your nor beholden to an employer for your insurance. You are paying likely 4 times more than other comparable countries for the same HC coverage with less deductable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 30, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 30, 2019 Cut medical costs 50% was a part of his previous plan. Good luck with that Bernie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: we currently pay more for medical insurance than any other country on earth. The funds already exist and are being taken from either the employer or employee or both through HC premiums. Those premiums go away and then you pay it in taxes. properly run it nets out the same to lower for the majority and your nor beholden to an employer for your insurance. Americans think it actually costs $5000 to fix a broken arm. It doesn't, it costs about $700 but because there are so many people with their hands out between the patient and the doctor it costs 5 grand to set and cast an arm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Pete said: Their plans are rape Americans No one deserves to accumulate money except the people like crazy Bernie and chief spreading bull Who pays for the healthcare now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 30, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Pete said: Their plans are rape Americans No one deserves to accumulate money except the people like crazy Bernie and chief spreading bull 4 minutes ago, Anler said: Who pays for the healthcare now? Yeah Pete....who pays now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: we currently pay more for medical insurance than any other country on earth. The funds already exist and are being taken from either the employer or employee or both through HC premiums. Those premiums go away and then you pay it in taxes. properly run it nets out the same to lower for the majority and your nor beholden to an employer for your insurance. You trust the government to properly run it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, racinfarmer said: You trust the government to properly run it? tbh the system is so failed at this point it would be worth trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: tbh the system is so failed at this point it would be worth trying. As far as I'm concerned, the government couldn't wheel a tire down a hill without fucking it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: As far as I'm concerned, the government couldn't wheel a tire down a hill without fucking it up. so true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 30, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 30, 2019 Simple create NHC and let people choose if they want to stay with private HI. Don't force anyone in and don't tax those that opt out. Doctors also cannot be forced to charge less than the private system. See how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 30, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted October 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, Anler said: Who pays for the healthcare now? Those that have health insurance??? or those that don’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Those that have health insurance??? or those that don’t? You decide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Of Course, Bernie has a plan he just doesn't want to say it , I read an article on yahoo saying 42% national tax to fund this shit so when you buy booze, snowmobiles, etc its gonna be basically nook taxing setup. Fuck Bernie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 30, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Anler said: You decide Well.... the employee does then. Edited October 30, 2019 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Well.... the employee does then. Right so you are just like the people who want govt healthcare, you just want someone else to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 30, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 30, 2019 Honest question. What do you do with the value of the private HI companies currently in business? "Fuck them" is not a legitimate, realistic answer. What does the govt do buy them at FMV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 30, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted October 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, Anler said: Right so you are just like the people who want govt healthcare, you just want someone else to pay for it. I’ve never complained about paying for my Cadillac plan..... it’s well worth it to pay for it with my labor. Just don’t want to have to pay for sub standard healthcare that the government would provide in a Medicare for all plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, BOHICA said: I’ve never complained about paying for my Cadillac plan..... it’s well worth it to pay for it with my labor. Just don’t want to have to pay for sub standard healthcare that the government would provide in a Medicare for all plan. I think everyone should pay for their own healthcare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Honest question. What do you do with the value of the private HI companies currently in business? "Fuck them" is not a legitimate, realistic answer. What does the govt do buy them at FMV? government would need to buy a couple to administer a single payer plan. The rest can branch out to supplemental insurance ducts, those that don't want to adapt will die off just like many other jobs/companies have in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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