Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 8, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Why did this person do this and how can it be prevented going forward? Why do we have this issue on such a massive scale? Instead we get...what type of gun, what color, is it scary looking and how many bullets does it hold? If he is indeed a Marine suffering from PTSD it’s yet another VA Failure...government loves sending them off to the meat grinder but after that....pffftt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Why did this person do this and how can it be prevented going forward? Why do we have this issue on such a massive scale? Instead we get...what type of gun, what color, is it scary looking and how many bullets does it hold? Perhaps we can never know why. Knowing a person's mind is difficult. To get to know it (and all those who may engage in such actions) in the manner to predict these types of actions we must yield rights protected by the Constitution. Same goes for preventing these instances. We could remove all guns from citizens, or make owning a firearm exceedingly difficult, however again at the cost of rights. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: If he is indeed a Marine suffering from PTSD it’s yet another VA Failure...government loves sending them off to the meat grinder but after that....pffftt. Yup. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted November 8, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: If he is indeed a Marine suffering from PTSD it’s yet another VA Failure...government loves sending them off to the meat grinder but after that....pffftt. So this was a California resident apparently suffering from PTSD in possession of a non-compliant firearm? Sounds like it may have been more then just the VA that failed. I see my dad try and deal with the VA and it disconcerting. I wish our politicians that send troops into all these situations that lead to PTSD and suicide would step up and take care of them better once they come back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Perhaps we can never know why. Knowing a person's mind is difficult. To get to know it (and all those who may engage in such actions) in the manner to predict these types of actions we must yield rights protected by the Constitution. Same goes for preventing these instances. We could remove all guns from citizens, or make owning a firearm exceedingly difficult, however again at the cost of rights. Neal I don’t think it’s worth losing our gun rights. And I don’t even own a gun. These events are minuscule compared to the big city deaths on a daily basis like Baltimore, Detroit, and Chicago. The media just sensationalizes these events just like anything else they cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Defund the war machine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So this was a California resident apparently suffering from PTSD in possession of a non-compliant firearm? Sounds like it may have been more then just the VA that failed. I see my dad try and deal with the VA and it disconcerting. I wish our politicians that send troops into all these situations that lead to PTSD and suicide would step up and take care of them better once they come back I wish every member of the U.S. house and the U.S. club senate would be forced by law to get their health care needs at the V.A. Only then would the lip service come to a end, and much needed reforms for veteran patient care would begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So this was a California resident apparently suffering from PTSD in possession of a non-compliant firearm? Sounds like it may have been more then just the VA that failed. I see my dad try and deal with the VA and it disconcerting. I wish our politicians that send troops into all these situations that lead to PTSD and suicide would step up and take care of them better once they come back Some are simply too damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: Some are simply too damaged. Sadly , yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted November 8, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, hwytohell said: I wish every member of the U.S. house and the U.S. club senate would be forced by law to get their health care needs at the V.A. Only then would the lip service come to a end, and much needed reforms for veteran patient care would begin. Excellent idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, hwytohell said: I wish every member of the U.S. house and the U.S. club senate would be forced by law to get their health care needs at the V.A. Only then would the lip service come to a end, and much needed reforms for veteran patient care would begin. My father in law was well taken care of by the VA. I have no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Nobody wants to ask the right questions because nobody want to hear the correct answers. Hint #1: “Toxic masculinity”. Hint #2 “Bullying”. Hint #3: “Celebrate Diverstiy”. Hint #4: “Racism” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Nobody wants to ask the right questions because nobody want to hear the correct answers. Hint #1: “Toxic masculinity”. Hint #2 “Bullying”. Hint #3: “Celebrate Diverstiy”. Hint #4: “Racism” Hint #5 “Word vomit” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Hint #5 “Word vomit” I didn't expect you to get it. You are a liberal in the mental health field. Holy moly! John Gacy teaching 8th gradel! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I didn't expect you to get it. You are a liberal in the mental health field. Holy moly! John Gacy teaching 8th gradel! Your silly mind expeditions remind me of the dead bodies on mount Everest. Edited November 8, 2018 by ActionfigureJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Your silly mind expeditions remind me of the dead bodies on mount Everest. Go "help" people. lololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 8, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 8, 2018 Besides the obvious possible mental issues sounds like revenge over something that that also took place in a bar in the area. Article doesn't say the same bar. He was the victim of a battery at a local Thousand Oaks bar and also had been involved in two traffic accidents. Deputies were called to his home last year because of a domestic dispute, where he was "somewhat irate and acting irrationally," said Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/08/ian-long-gunman-thousand-oaks-california-borderline-bar-grill/1928231002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Ez ryder said: really you sniveling little cunt . I can her it now oh those mean r republicans are going to start locking people up just because they stoped taking there meds . Fuck YOU Some DO need a place to live where they can get through life without harming themselves or others. without these places we have created dangers that dont need to be. when most of hospitals closed around here it was EXTREMELY sad what happend to many, many people. a lot of suffering no one wants to address. but ya , it is a very slippery slope as you point out, the reasons some would use to lock others up, and that slope is getting steeper. labels.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Is your news feed blowing up? Mass shootout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Zambroski said: Nobody wants to ask the right questions because nobody want to hear the correct answers. Hint #1: “Toxic masculinity”. Hint #2 “Bullying”. Hint #3: “Celebrate Diverstiy”. Hint #4: “Racism” Hint #5: "Right wing faggot" Hint #6: "Gun nut" Hint #7: "Scared of muslims, mexicans, blacks, liberals" No doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Anler said: No doubt Moron. There’s a theme developing within the libertarian party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 The Glock 45 is a very effective killing device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 8, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 hours ago, old indy said: Some DO need a place to live where they can get through life without harming themselves or others. without these places we have created dangers that dont need to be. when most of hospitals closed around here it was EXTREMELY sad what happend to many, many people. a lot of suffering no one wants to address. but ya , it is a very slippery slope as you point out, the reasons some would use to lock others up, and that slope is getting steeper. labels.. Unfortunatly they end up being 80 % of the people law enforcement end up dealing with. Most will end up in a jail or prison that isn't set up to deal with the issues they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Cold War said: Is your news feed blowing up? Mass shootout! What is your point here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: What is your point here? I thought it was news worthy. Sure the fuck would be if it happened in your neighborhood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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