motonoggin Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Oh it's absolutely a bad idea to tell someone they're a victim, but white privilege isn't really victimizing anyone, it's really just a description of circumstances that are problematic. Maybe a better term would be "normal privilege" because it really isn't just about race, it's about people being nicer to people that remind them of themselves than people who look or act differently than they're used to. White privilege is the term we have right now though and it's not meant to paint white people in a bad light or tell black people they are victims, it's just meant to say, "Hey there's a problem over there we should probably try to fix." I definitely wasn't looking for attention Sal. I lost interest in coming on here for a good while, and when I wasn't around is when I came to accept who I was, and then when I came back getting called a faggot didn't roll off as easily as it used to. I didn't want to make a big deal about it, but it was honestly affecting my ability to enjoy having these arguments and I realized I had to either address it or leave. That was a while back and it went pretty smoothly at first. Someone called me a faggot, I said who cares that I'm gay, that person usually didn't call me a faggot again. After a while I noticed certain members start interpreting these occasional requests to not be called a faggot as attention seeking behavior and then they started bringing up my sexuality in nearly every conversation. This honestly would not have happened if people had just respected my request not to be called that word. That's how it works here. You reveal one personal thing and people use it as a base for every argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Oh it's absolutely a bad idea to tell someone they're a victim, but white privilege isn't really victimizing anyone, it's really just a description of circumstances that are problematic. Maybe a better term would be "normal privilege" because it really isn't just about race, it's about people being nicer to people that remind them of themselves than people who look or act differently than they're used to. White privilege is the term we have right now though and it's not meant to paint white people in a bad light or tell black people they are victims, it's just meant to say, "Hey there's a problem over there we should probably try to fix." I definitely wasn't looking for attention Sal. I lost interest in coming on here for a good while, and when I wasn't around is when I came to accept who I was, and then when I came back getting called a faggot didn't roll off as easily as it used to. I didn't want to make a big deal about it, but it was honestly affecting my ability to enjoy having these arguments and I realized I had to either address it or leave. That was a while back and it went pretty smoothly at first. Someone called me a faggot, I said who cares that I'm gay, that person usually didn't call me a faggot again. After a while I noticed certain members start interpreting these occasional requests to not be called a faggot as attention seeking behavior and then they started bringing up my sexuality in nearly every conversation. This honestly would not have happened if people had just respected my request not to be called that word. Yeah but you are taking the name calling to heart as if these guy's are serious . Everyone is just fucking around . Look at the names that we call each other , you don't really think that we are all being serious and trying to hurt each other , do you ? C'mon , guy . Maybe 2 in 50 guy's on here are being serious when they say that to you . The other 48 of us could care less what your sexual preferences are . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Yeah but it's got a plot twist at the end because I don't think I've called a political ally out like that on here before, it's probably going to be an important footnote for my ongoing character development Do yourself a favor and set aside any notion of political allies here .....be prepared to call anyone a faggot at any point. That said it is important to know that there are a few logical thinkers here and when your opinion is counter to theirs it may be at least a decent exercise to give extra consideration to your position. I dont agree with moto's off the rail view of race and his condemnation of every single thing white people do. But I have read between the lines of his opinions and they have been of value to me in considering just what privileges exist for white people and how they may be viewed by non-whites Edited December 5, 2017 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Sal Rosenberg said: Yeah but you are taking the name calling to heart as if these guy's are serious . Everyone is just fucking around . Look at the names that we call each other , you don't really think that we are all being serious and trying to hurt each other , do you ? C'mon , guy . Maybe 2 in 50 guy's on here are being serious when they say that to you . The other 48 of us could care less what your sexual preferences are . It pains me deeply all the times youve told me to STFU over the yrs... Just sayin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Yeah but it's got a plot twist at the end because I don't think I've called a political ally out like that on here before, it's probably going to be an important footnote for my ongoing character development I will give it a look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 5, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, motonoggin said: That's how it works here. You reveal one personal thing and people use it as a base for every argument. Are you playing the victim now? You openly admit that you cheat on your wife and then lecture us about human decency and say that most here are not decent people and you wonder why your adultery comes into play....SMH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, DAVE said: It pains me deeply all the times youve told me to STFU over the yrs... Just sayin... Oh just STFU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Are you playing the victim now? You openly admit that you cheat on your wife and then lecture us about human decency and say that most here are not decent people and you wonder why your adultery comes into play....SMH. Don't be such a sensitive snowflake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Yeah but it's got a plot twist at the end because I don't think I've called a political ally out like that on here before, it's probably going to be an important footnote for my ongoing character development Calling out perceived allies is definitely part of the path to real freedom. This is why slinger hates me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, motonoggin said: My grandparents shot fascists. They should consider themselves lucky. Really Gran Ma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 54 minutes ago, odot1 said: I like open to attract members and prevent stagnation.. And yes.. It is Freedom Sledder but that doesn't mean absolutely everything goes... Just like free speech there are some limits... But in the end..it's your site and your right to do with it as you please. I personally don't miss this banned member. He was very personal and direct in his attacks and unable to accept it in return. I truly believe he has legitimate mental health issues. Showing all the classic signs and symptoms of schizophrenia and bipolar. Just my $0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Oh...nice pile on Moto thread too. Hey Moto...I'm not sure WB is taking your recruitment bait either...you may have to go for the "hard set". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, motonoggin said: They were comparing me to a white guy with dreads. That's why I responded the way I did. White people appropriating Black Culture is not something I approve of. The whole concept is idiotic. I can't do my hair a certain way because some people with different skin color do it more prevalently? Fuck that nonsense. Neal Edited December 5, 2017 by NaturallyAspirated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Wildboer said: If only you understood how to apply this concept to economics and politics instead of vindictively obsessing over how poor people deserve to be poor because you think they're all lazy. You suck ass a subliminal disses by the way. I've made it abundantly clear I was trying to make the point that he wouldn't say that shit in real life because he wouldn't want to be held accountable for it, not threatening to make some attempt to get him held accountable for anything he's said on here. Do you not realize I have a stake in the anonymity to? I don't want anyone poking around my post history and publicly linking it to me just as much as everyone else dude. "If I understood..." Impressive. As far as the rest goes, I actually wasn't referring to you at all. But glad you know what you did and admitted it (while backpeddling like hell). Sooooooooooooooo....still waiting on that apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, DAVE said: What reason did he have to threaten someone? He didn't threaten anyone, other than posting gay porn... That's the point. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted December 5, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: The whole concept is idiotic. I can't do my hair a certain way because some people with different skin color do it more prevalently? Fuck that nonsense. Neal Not to mention that refusing to allow other cultures to adopt some of your own culture's aspects is a good way to hep keep the divide between cultures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: He didn't threaten anyone, other than posting gay porn... That's the point. Neal He did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Only of FSCE can you watch an ignorant idiot demand an apology from an openly gay man for calling him a faggot sweet fuck the iq is hovering around 90 in this joint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, DAVE said: He did no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: no Ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 So what if he did? Are you ashamed of something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 5, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 5, 2017 45 minutes ago, motonoggin said: That's how it works here. You reveal one personal thing and people use it as a base for every argument. 24 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Don't be such a sensitive snowflake. Sounds like you need to work on that not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: Only of FSCE can you watch an ignorant idiot demand an apology from an openly gay man for calling him a faggot sweet fuck the iq is hovering around 90 in this joint You're so fucking stupid. You don't know anything that went on in that thread but jumped in to white knight for Boars head. Jesus fucking christ already....just ask him out. Don't be afraid...here....I'll write a note for you and give it to him. Hey WB, from BennyTooFuckingMany: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Sounds like you need to work on that not me. Just stating a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, Zambroski said: You're so fucking stupid. You don't know anything that went on in that thread but jumped in to white knight for Boars head. Jesus fucking christ already....just ask him out. Don't be afraid...here....I'll write a note for you and give it to him. Hey WB, from BennyTooFuckingMany: I read the whole thread dummy ......you are ignorant and dumb. Tom and Dave were way out of line and acting like complete retards which seems to be the norm lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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