Don't forget... thanks Obama

[Snake]

[DriftBusta]

[Snoslinger]

enjoy it while you can. many americans are slow learners. thanks to trump, and some of the other repukes who want to inflict damage on many, those numbers will soon be changing. starting a year and a half from now.

oh but wait, we had the WVA gov, disguised as a dem, and a friend of trump, jump ship the other night. woo hoo!

 

 

[Anler]

would be even better if they were switching to the real conservative party...

[DriftBusta]

3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

enjoy it while you can. many americans are slow learners. thanks to trump, and some of the other repukes who want to inflict damage on many, those numbers will soon be changing. starting a year and a half from now.

oh but wait, we had the WVA gov, disguised as a dem, and a friend of trump, jump ship the other night. woo hoo!

 

 

  What a complete buffoon you are.  Your party has been losing for 8 years.  8 fucking years.  And every prediction you've made has been wrong.  Dead.   Wrong.  Bolded part is largely why

[Snoslinger]

Just now, DriftBusta said:

  What a complete buffoon you are.  Your party has been losing for 8 years.  8 fucking years.  And every prediction you've made has been wrong.  Dead.   Wrong.  Bolded part is largely why

many of those losses were brought on by the lies and misconceptions of the gop party. take a look at obamacare. many voters in the elections afterwards went to the polls with lies like "death panels" on their minds. many now see it as a plus. they also see what the GOP wants to do and don't like it one bit. believe me, you clowns are losing seats the next election.

 

[Snake]

1 minute ago, Snoslinger said:

many of those losses were brought on by the lies and misconceptions of the gop party. take a look at obamacare. many voters in the elections afterwards went to the polls with lies like "death panels" on their minds. many now see it as a plus. they also see what the GOP wants to do and don't like it one bit. believe me, you clowns are losing seats the next election.

 

For the past 8 years?

[SnowRider]

Just now, Snake said:

For the past 8 years?

[Ez ryder]

24 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

enjoy it while you can. many americans are slow learners. thanks to trump, and some of the other repukes who want to inflict damage on many, those numbers will soon be changing. starting a year and a half from now.

oh but wait, we had the WVA gov, disguised as a dem, and a friend of trump, jump ship the other night. woo hoo!

 

 

pretty sure that is what the polls were saying before this election . wire to wire baby

[Carlos Danger]

23 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

many of those losses were brought on by the lies and misconceptions of the gop party. take a look at obamacare. many voters in the elections afterwards went to the polls with lies like "death panels" on their minds. many now see it as a plus. they also see what the GOP wants to do and don't like it one bit. believe me, you clowns are losing seats the next election.

 

The Dems have done themselves in over the last dozen years or so. You give the Repubs to much credit especially at the Federal level. 

1 no clear message or agenda

2 corporate whoring for money 

3 bad leadership choices

4 alienating their traditional base.

If you are a working middle of America white guy you have to be mildly retarded to vote for a Dem.

[Rod]

Dems lost touch with middle class working Americans. Until they get that back they're fucked. 

[Skidooski]

7 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Dems lost touch with middle class working Americans. Until they get that back they're fucked. 

They have to get some leadership for their party first. Midterms will be here before you know it and they desperately need to improve

[Carlos Danger]

The Dems are losing ground in Connecticut!! They have very narrow majority in the Senate and a Gov who is universally hated. 

How long before the idiots in Illinois figure out it is time to make a change away from one party rule.

[Carlos Danger]

12 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Dems lost touch with middle class working Americans. Until they get that back they're fucked. 

How can than they do that with their current list of donors. 

[racer254]

8 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

They have to get some leadership for their party first. Midterms will be here before you know it and they desperately need to improve

They are still busy with damage control from the last elections.  Still trying to equate losing = almost WINNING which , of course, is what they had planned all along.   Then we have RUSSIA and then we have 3 million people from california that controlled the popular vote and they can't seem to understand how that narrative gives more credibility to the electoral college.

[Skidooski]

2 minutes ago, racer254 said:

They are still busy with damage control from the last elections.  Still trying to equate losing = almost WINNING which , of course, is what they had planned all along.   Then we have RUSSIA and then we have 3 million people from california that controlled the popular vote and they can't seem to understand how that narrative gives more credibility to the electoral college.

Hillary loosing was a crushing defeat so they better pray for the Russia thing to pan out in their favor and Midterms to go their way. Or else we'l be stuck with Trump for the whole 8 years 

[Anler]

25 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Dems lost touch with middle class working Americans. Until they get that back they're fucked. 

neither one of those parties gives a shit about the middle class. Everything they have done in the last 40 years has been to spite the middle class. 

[Momorider]

1 hour ago, Snoslinger said:

enjoy it while you can. many americans are slow learners. thanks to trump, and some of the other repukes who want to inflict damage on many, those numbers will soon be changing. starting a year and a half from now.

oh but wait, we had the WVA gov, disguised as a dem, and a friend of trump, jump ship the other night. woo hoo!

 

 

100%  100% of the time for over 2 fucking years  FAGGOT 

[Dave]

1 minute ago, Momorider said:

100%  100% of the time for over 2 fucking years  FAGGOT 

Youre getting as bad as slope.

[Momorider]

1 minute ago, FAT DAVE said:

Youre getting as bad as slope.

Except I am 100% correct and he is a clown  

[Rod]

13 minutes ago, Anler said:

neither one of those parties gives a shit about the middle class. Everything they have done in the last 40 years has been to spite the middle class. 

That's why both the DNC and RNC want trump out. He's trying to help

[Anler]

3 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

That's why both the DNC and RNC want trump out. He's trying to help

He looks like an idiot so far. Why are his appointments quitting and getting fired so frequently? And he tweets like a teenage girl. Thats some idol you have there. 

[Rod]

1 minute ago, Anler said:

He looks like an idiot so far. Why are his appointments quitting and getting fired so frequently? And he tweets like a teenage girl. Thats some idol you have there. 

He's a billionaire who became the president for funzies. That's badass.  

[Snake]

1 hour ago, Snoslinger said:

many of those losses were brought on by the lies and misconceptions of the gop party. take a look at obamacare. many voters in the elections afterwards went to the polls with lies like "death panels" on their minds. many now see it as a plus. they also see what the GOP wants to do and don't like it one bit. believe me, you clowns are losing seats the next election.

 

All the signs suggest that 2018 is going to be a very good year for Democrats.

Midterm elections are historically terrible for the president's party. In 18 of the last 20 midterm elections, the president's party has lost seats. In those 18 elections, the average seat loss is 33. Those numbers are even more daunting for presidents under 50% job approval -- as Donald Trump is right now. Since 1946, the average seat loss in the House in that situation is 36 seats.

 

States up for re-election -- Blue: Democratic. Red: Republican. Yellow: Independent.

But before Democrats get too delirious about the election to come, they should read this paragraph from David Wasserman's terrific analysis of the 2018 election on FiveThirtyEight:

"Even if Democrats were to win every single 2018 House and Senate race for seats representing places that Hillary Clinton won or that Trump won by less than 3 percentage points — a pretty good midterm by historical standards — they could still fall short of the House majority and lose five Senate seats."

That's absolutely stunning. And reflective of the advantages Republicans have going into 2018 -- one, in the House, built on having largely controlled the 2010 redistricting process, and the other, in the Senate, based on how great the 2006 and 2012 elections were for Democrats.

 

In the House, there are 23 districts currently held by a Republican that Hillary Clinton won in 2016. (There are 12 seats held by Democrats that Trump won.) Of those 23, just eight went for Barack Obama over Mitt Romney in 2012 as well.

Even so, if Democrats won all 23 of the seats Clinton carried that are represented by Republicans -- and lost NONE of the dozen seats Trump won that are held by Democrats -- the party still comes up a seat short of the majority.

 

Republicans, quite simply, did a very good job in drawing the congressional lines in states where they controlled the entire process after the 2010 census. Large populations of Democrats are, as Wasserman notes, packed into urban districts while Republican voters are more spread out among suburban and rural seats.

 

That reality, coupled with the fact that political tribalism is on the rise, means that there are just far fewer chances for Democrats to make gains than there were a decade or two ago. (In 1996, there were 108 "crossover" districts where the member of Congress was from a different party than the presidential candidate who carried the seat.)

 

A good midterm election wouldn't be enough to switch control of the House. Democrats would need a great one. Which is possible -- especially given Trump's dismal approval ratings and the lack of legislative accomplishments for Congress -- but never a certainty.

On the Senate side, where redistricting isn't a factor, Democrats are a victim of their own successes. Democrats won six Republican seats in the 2006 election. In 2012, Democrats picked up two more seats -- if you include Maine Sen. Angus King, an independent who caucuses with Democrats. And I do.

 

That embarrassment of political riches means that in 2018 there are a whopping 25 Democratic seats up as compared to a meager eight for Republicans. In other words, 52% of all the seats Democrats control are up in 2018 while just 15% of Republicans' seats are up.

And it's not just the raw numbers. It's where these seats are. Ten of the 25 (40%) are in states Trump won in 2016. TEN.

 

Five of those 10 -- North Dakota, Missouri, Montana, West Virginia and Indiana -- are states Trump carried by double digits. By contrast, only one Republican up for reelection -- Dean Heller of Nevada -- represents a state that Clinton won last November. Only one other Republican-held state -- Arizona -- was even marginally competitive in the presidential contest. (Trump won Arizona by 3.5 points.)

 

In short: The political environment is looking very, very good for Democrats. But the math is unchanging -- and bad -- for them.

History suggests that political environments can sometimes overwhelm raw numbers. But, for that to happen you need a gale-force wind blowing in one direction. And that is a very rare thing.

[Highmark]

1 hour ago, Snoslinger said:

enjoy it while you can. many americans are slow learners. thanks to trump, and some of the other repukes who want to inflict damage on many, those numbers will soon be changing. starting a year and a half from now.

oh but wait, we had the WVA gov, disguised as a dem, and a friend of trump, jump ship the other night. woo hoo!

 

 

But you guys kept lecturing us on how the GOP was all but decimated going into the last election.