Snake Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 A man is charged with attempted murder and a raft of firearms offences after helping fend off home invaders, one of whom he’s now charged with shooting. Kyle Earl Munroe was arrested on July 12 after RCMP and Halifax Regional Police responded to a report of a home invasion involving firearms at a home in Porters Lake. Police said that three men entered the residence with guns and a struggle took place with two men inside. The two in the home seized a firearm from one of the suspects and several shots were fired as the suspects fled. Police later located one of the suspects, who had non-life-threatening gunshot wounds. Munroe faces charges of attempted murder, intent to discharge a firearm, intent to discharge a firearm when being reckless, careless use of a firearm, improper storage of a firearm, pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a firearm knowing that possession is unauthorized, and possession for the purpose of trafficking. “Right now they’re just pending charges,” said spokeswoman Chris Hansen at the Public Prosecution Service. Munroe is banned from any contact with two named individuals, must attend court as ordered, keep the peace and be of good behaviour, not leave his residence except for essential activities such as work or medical appointments, remain in Nova Scotia, not consume drugs or alcohol, not possess a cellphone or pager, have no weapons, and answer the door to police when they check at his home. Munroe is due back in Dartmouth Provincial Court on Aug. 22 for election and plea. http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1487818-break-in-suspect-shot-man-in-home-charged#.WXM6Wmvlgdg.facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 31 minutes ago, Snake said: A man is charged with attempted murder and a raft of firearms offences after helping fend off home invaders, one of whom he’s now charged with shooting. Kyle Earl Munroe was arrested on July 12 after RCMP and Halifax Regional Police responded to a report of a home invasion involving firearms at a home in Porters Lake. Police said that three men entered the residence with guns and a struggle took place with two men inside. The two in the home seized a firearm from one of the suspects and several shots were fired as the suspects fled. Police later located one of the suspects, who had non-life-threatening gunshot wounds. Munroe faces charges of attempted murder, intent to discharge a firearm, intent to discharge a firearm when being reckless, careless use of a firearm, improper storage of a firearm, pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a firearm knowing that possession is unauthorized, and possession for the purpose of trafficking. “Right now they’re just pending charges,” said spokeswoman Chris Hansen at the Public Prosecution Service. Munroe is banned from any contact with two named individuals, must attend court as ordered, keep the peace and be of good behaviour, not leave his residence except for essential activities such as work or medical appointments, remain in Nova Scotia, not consume drugs or alcohol, not possess a cellphone or pager, have no weapons, and answer the door to police when they check at his home. Munroe is due back in Dartmouth Provincial Court on Aug. 22 for election and plea. http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1487818-break-in-suspect-shot-man-in-home-charged#.WXM6Wmvlgdg.facebook Happens often here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 That's too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 It really is...the natives run wild here at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, FAT DAVE said: It really is...the natives run wild here at times. This is a good piece that covers a couple of examples of the prevailing attitude here... http://www.centralmaine.com/2017/03/13/police-sidney-home-invasion-leaves-suspect-shot-in-chest/ Edited August 1, 2017 by Snake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Castle laws are different everywhere, it looks like they are going after this guy for shooting the burglar as he was running away. What are the laws in your State or Province regarding a fleeing armed burglar? Illinois Self Defense Law, Chicago Man Kills Home Intruder By Andrew Lu on September 29, 2011 12:05 PM A Chicago Heights home was clearly marked with signs of “No Trespassing,” “We Call Police,” and “Alert One Security Systems.” Yet, 18-year-old Anterrio Hall chose to ignore these warnings and broke into the home owned by a sickly man. As a result, the teen was shot dead, and charges may be brought against the homeowner that may call into question Illinois self defense laws. About 8:00 a.m. on Tuesday morning, the unidentified homeowner was in his bathroom when he heard glass breaking in his kitchen, reports the Chicago Sun-Times. The man retrieved a gun and saw that Hall had broken in. The sickly man who uses an oxygen canister to breathe shot Hall multiple times, killing him. A neighbor described the neighborhood as "very bad" and said that his own home had been broken into five times since he's moved, reports the Sun-Times. As the homeowner killed Anterrio Hall, he could face homicide charges. However, as Illinois self defense laws are somewhat liberal, it's unlikely that the homeowner will be convicted of a crime. Generally, someone can only kill another in self defense if one faces deadly force himself. So if a robber is trying to stab his victim, the victim may be able to shoot him. But if a drunk is only shoving a victim, the victim is likely not justified in shooting the drunk. However, there are more generous self defense laws when someone tries to break into a home. In this situation, one can use deadly force against the burglar if the breaking and entering is violent and likely to lead to an assault or commission of a felony. With a home invasion, the homeowner does not need to face deadly force to respond with deadly force. Anterrio Hall broke into the home of a Chicago Heights man. Given the characteristics of the neighborhood, the homeowner probably has a valid justification to use deadly force under Illinois self defense laws. Quote Canadian Patriots July 24 at 11:14pm · This is wrong, very wrong. All the anti-gun people out there need to learn that people have the right to defend themselves and their property. The invaders entered the residence with guns. They were running away when one was shot, THINK that they might have killed the occupants and YOURS would have been the next home they targeted. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A man is charged with attempted murder and a raft of firearms offences after helping fend off home invaders, one of whom he’s now charged with shooting. Kyle Earl Munroe was arrested on July 12 after RCMP and Halifax Regional Police responded to a report of a home invasion involving firearms at a home in Porters Lake. Police said that three men entered the residence with guns and a struggle took place with two men inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Castle laws are different everywhere, it looks like they are going after this guy for shooting the burglar as he was running away. What are the laws in your State or Province regarding a fleeing armed burglar? Illinois Self Defense Law, Chicago Man Kills Home Intruder By Andrew Lu on September 29, 2011 12:05 PM A Chicago Heights home was clearly marked with signs of “No Trespassing,” “We Call Police,” and “Alert One Security Systems.” Yet, 18-year-old Anterrio Hall chose to ignore these warnings and broke into the home owned by a sickly man. As a result, the teen was shot dead, and charges may be brought against the homeowner that may call into question Illinois self defense laws. About 8:00 a.m. on Tuesday morning, the unidentified homeowner was in his bathroom when he heard glass breaking in his kitchen, reports the Chicago Sun-Times. The man retrieved a gun and saw that Hall had broken in. The sickly man who uses an oxygen canister to breathe shot Hall multiple times, killing him. A neighbor described the neighborhood as "very bad" and said that his own home had been broken into five times since he's moved, reports the Sun-Times. As the homeowner killed Anterrio Hall, he could face homicide charges. However, as Illinois self defense laws are somewhat liberal, it's unlikely that the homeowner will be convicted of a crime. Generally, someone can only kill another in self defense if one faces deadly force himself. So if a robber is trying to stab his victim, the victim may be able to shoot him. But if a drunk is only shoving a victim, the victim is likely not justified in shooting the drunk. However, there are more generous self defense laws when someone tries to break into a home. In this situation, one can use deadly force against the burglar if the breaking and entering is violent and likely to lead to an assault or commission of a felony. With a home invasion, the homeowner does not need to face deadly force to respond with deadly force. Anterrio Hall broke into the home of a Chicago Heights man. Given the characteristics of the neighborhood, the homeowner probably has a valid justification to use deadly force under Illinois self defense laws. We need castle law bad here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Castle laws are different everywhere, it looks like they are going after this guy for shooting the burglar as he was running away. What are the laws in your State or Province regarding a fleeing armed burglar? Most state laws (along with federal) do not allow for the home owner to issue capital punishment...pretty much period. Shooting somebody in the back or otherwise clearly when they posed no physical threat is poor planning and decision making. A frontal shot (fatal of course)...almost anywhere in, or even around the home is almost always gonna win out if the homeowner has his wits about him/her. Otherwise, planning is key....and if you like a good knife or bat type device.....and don't mind getting dirty...it's as good as a get out of jail free card! Think, plan......then execute. HA! Literally AND figuratively! I didn't even try to do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, FAT DAVE said: We need castle law bad here. I'm not positive but I think in most states you could be liable if shooting a fleeing bad guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Munroe faces charges of attempted murder, intent to discharge a firearm, intent to discharge a firearm when being reckless, careless use of a firearm, improper storage of a firearm, pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a firearm knowing that possession is unauthorized, and possession for the purpose of trafficking. He is going to be in trouble even if the attempted murder is dropped which it will be I am betting. Sounds like it was a hit for firearms he was selling - there lies the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: Munroe faces charges of attempted murder, intent to discharge a firearm, intent to discharge a firearm when being reckless, careless use of a firearm, improper storage of a firearm, pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a firearm knowing that possession is unauthorized, and possession for the purpose of trafficking. He is going to be in trouble even if the attempted murder is dropped which it will be I am betting. Sounds like it was a hit for firearms he was selling - there lies the problem Jesus, just start throwing charges at the guy hoping something will stick or he'll plea down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Zambroski said: Most state laws (along with federal) do not allow for the home owner to issue capital punishment...pretty much period. Shooting somebody in the back or otherwise clearly when they posed no physical threat is poor planning and decision making. A frontal shot (fatal of course)...almost anywhere in, or even around the home is almost always gonna win out if the homeowner has his wits about him/her. Otherwise, planning is key....and if you like a good knife or bat type device.....and don't mind getting dirty...it's as good as a get out of jail free card! Think, plan......then execute. HA! Literally AND figuratively! I didn't even try to do that! Works for the people that get on the wrong side of dem party power players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted August 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 1, 2017 Quote Munroe faces charges of attempted murder, intent to discharge a firearm, intent to discharge a firearm when being reckless, careless use of a firearm, improper storage of a firearm, pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a firearm knowing that possession is unauthorized, and possession for the purpose of trafficking. Thank god I live in the US 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: I'm not positive but I think in most states you could be liable if shooting a fleeing bad guy. Not here. A few years ago 2 guys broke into a Tavern in North Woods beach, the owners were asleep upstairs when they heard the commotion, the male owner took his firearm and approached them, they had no weapons only liquor bottles which they tried to attack with, then turned and tried to run when they realized the owner was armed, he shot both as they had their backs towards him, it went to court where the jury found him not guilty. Google it. Gov. Walker signed a pretty good Castle Doctrine law a couple years ago which allows someone to use deadly force if you feel threatened, you no longer have to try to flee first. In Wisconsin, the law on self-defense generally states you may employ lethal force to defend yourself or another if you or they are in reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm. Castle Doctrine changes the rules of retreat and when one can use force in their dwelling, workplace or motor vehicle to provide heightened protections from both criminal prosecution and civil liability if one uses defensive force. The court or jury may no longer consider whether the actor (a homeowner in his home, business owner or operator in their business or motorist in their motor vehicle) had the opportunity to flee. You may now "stand your ground" in these locations. Now, if someone breaks in the front door of your dwelling, or is in the process of breaking in the front door you do not need to flee out the back door; instead you may choose to stand your ground and the new law shall presume you reasonably believed lethal force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm. With Castle Doctrine, when an actor uses force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm (such as shooting another person) there exists civil immunity, "stand your ground" protection, and presumption that the actor, who is otherwise not breaking the law themselves did reasonably believe they were in reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm when they knew or reasonably believed someone unlawfully and forcibly entered their dwelling, motor vehicle or place of business. Edited August 1, 2017 by XCR1250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: I'm not positive but I think in most states you could be liable if shooting a fleeing bad guy. why would anyone want to shoot someone when they're running away? i could see it if they had lost their composure do to lack of training. otherwise it's intentional homicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 No way I'm going to flee my own house with my family here. Fuck that. I'll do the time if I have to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted August 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Edmo said: No way I'm going to flee my own house with my family here. Fuck that. I'll do the time if I have to. Having family in the house helps you with the case of self defense but then again you're in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: why would anyone want to shoot someone when they're running away? i could see it if they had lost their composure do to lack of training. otherwise it's intentional homicide. If you feel like doing a Google search on what I posted you'll see the Jury ruled in the Defendant's favor, he shot both while they were running away, they had no weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 It makes me sad when someone sets out to victimize someone and then becomes the victim themselves. It almost seems like you cant rape or rob someone these days without some yahoo asshole pulling a gun and shooting at you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted August 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: If you feel like doing a Google search on what I posted you'll see the Jury ruled in the Defendant's favor, he shot both while they were running away, they had no weapons. No shit. Sounds like the jury got it wrong. But what does one expect from Northwoods justice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: If you feel like doing a Google search on what I posted you'll see the Jury ruled in the Defendant's favor, he shot both while they were running away, they had no weapons. takes all kinds in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) This was the first news about it before it went to trial: http://www.riverfallsjournal.com/news/1052262-bar-owner-shoots-juvenile-robbers Edited August 1, 2017 by XCR1250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, SnowRider said: No shit. Sounds like the jury got it wrong. But what does one expect from Northwoods justice Knobrider cheering for the thugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Sleepr2 said: Knobrider cheering for the thugs What's ever more funny is the Jurors weren't from anywhere in the "Northwoods". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 LOL at the librul faggots that can't defend themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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