snoughnut Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 16 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: so you're good with sending money to Ukraine and paying off student loans for everyone? No, I'm not but hopefully you get the point. BTW, PPP was far worse than student loans and that passed along congressional lines and 200 billion alone was fraud. Now we have to pay big money to all the 3 letter agencies to investigate the fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 29 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 29 41 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: so you're good with sending money to Ukraine and paying off student loans for everyone? Aren't you good with sending money to Ukraine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 How about more taxpayer money to constantly come up with bullshit against Trump? I mean, it's all in the name of cutting down on gov't spending, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 29 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: can you show me Trump or the current crop of Republicans plan(s)? we sure as fuck realize there's no plan from the Democrats. Wanting and the ability to get cuts is a different reality. I will say this again....IMHO Trumps most significant failure in the WH was not shutting down the govt to get better budget and border deals. https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/trumps-2021-budget-would-cut-16-trillion-from-low-income-programs https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/trump-budget-cuts-size-federal-government-bolder-reforms-needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 24 minutes ago, snoughnut said: No, I'm not but hopefully you get the point. BTW, PPP was far worse than student loans and that passed along congressional lines and 200 billion alone was fraud. Now we have to pay big money to all the 3 letter agencies to investigate the fraud. and how any of those who were part of it would get re-elected is beyond me. same with the Wall St bailout. reward the sinners. 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Aren't you good with sending money to Ukraine? if I have to choose between American soldiers or weapons we make being sent there... it's fairly simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Wanting and the ability to get cuts is a different reality. I will say this again....IMHO Trumps most significant failure in the WH was not shutting down the govt to get better budget and border deals. https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/trumps-2021-budget-would-cut-16-trillion-from-low-income-programs https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/trump-budget-cuts-size-federal-government-bolder-reforms-needed why'd he cave? who's going to clean up the boomers mess? Also, what's he proposing for 'next year' aside from retribution and authoritarianism? Edited April 29 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: and how any of those who were part of it would get re-elected is beyond me. same with the Wall St bailout. reward the sinners. if I have to choose between American soldiers or weapons we make being sent there... it's fairly simple. At least the banks paid back the TARP loans, PPP was a straight up giveaway to the already wealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 29 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 29 16 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: and how any of those who were part of it would get re-elected is beyond me. same with the Wall St bailout. reward the sinners. if I have to choose between American soldiers or weapons we make being sent there... it's fairly simple. That's a cop out answer. We wouldn't have to send either. Let Europe handle their own mess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 29 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 29 15 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: why'd he cave? who's going to clean up the boomers mess? Also, what's he proposing for 'next year' aside from retribution and authoritarianism? I think a second term a President is far more likely to stand their ground than when trying to win re-election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 25 minutes ago, snoughnut said: At least the banks paid back the TARP loans, PPP was a straight up giveaway to the already wealthy. that's sorta true... they got bigger, leaner and meaner. buying out the competition is easy when the taxpayers made them whole. PPP... that was on Donny's watch. 11 minutes ago, Highmark said: That's a cop out answer. We wouldn't have to send either. Let Europe handle their own mess. I didn't realize you were a Putin boot licker? 10 minutes ago, Highmark said: I think a second term a President is far more likely to stand their ground than when trying to win re-election. I think he's actually going to lose... again. Then, there goes the economic and border matters for another four years. Especially if the Dem's take the House and Senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: three decades of boomers in leadership without a pay as you spend policy will do that but, tax breaks.... oh look, two boomers are the leading contenders for POTUS Looking backwards will not get you anywhere. The problem is here, now and needs to be dealt with. Who is going to serve up the sour medicine we need? I have hope that Poilievre understands the gravity of our situation and once elected, act to mitigate. I've less hope you have such a champion in the pipe. Edited April 29 by Voodoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 7 minutes ago, Voodoo said: Looking backwards will not get you anywhere. The problem is here, now and needs to be dealt with. Who is going to serve up the sour medicine we need? I have hope that Poilievre understands the gravity of our situation and once elected, act to mitigate. I've less hope you have such a champion in the pipe. no one from either party is going to do a thing in regards to the mess they both created... that would be political suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Just print up a few trillion dollar bills and call it good! Neal Joe's on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 29 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 29 45 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that's sorta true... they got bigger, leaner and meaner. buying out the competition is easy when the taxpayers made them whole. PPP... that was on Donny's watch. I didn't realize you were a Putin boot licker? I think he's actually going to lose... again. Then, there goes the economic and border matters for another four years. Especially if the Dem's take the House and Senate. In 21 Trump proposed a $4.4 trillion budget. For 25 Biden has proposed $7.3 trillion. https://www.axios.com/2024/03/11/biden-budget-2025-priorities-plans-credits No Putin boot licker I just think he's proven Russia wasn't the threat our IC made them out to be. I know big shock right. I also firmly agreed with Trump saying most of NATO has sat on the sidelines and not held up to the agreements military spending all while enrichening Russia themselves buying their energy. Fucking stupid our money or boys fighting for the rest of NATO considering what has occurred. If you didn't agree with us going into Iraq it didn't mean you were a Saddam boot licker. FFS what is it with you war mongers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 23 minutes ago, Doug said: Joe's on it Trump did it, Joe is doing it, and the next one will continue it. It’s nothing new. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 9 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Trump did it, Joe is doing it, and the next one will continue it. It’s nothing new. Neal Yes the cesspool of our government well continue with their fucked up habits. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted April 29 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 29 thanks joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: no one from either party is going to do a thing in regards to the mess they both created... that would be political suicide. So you simply admit you’re fucked. Give up, let the global finance system fuck you over. Ive been balls deep in debt. I came up with a plan and’ paid it off. I’m one dude, the American government should have people that can figure out the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Voodoo said: So you simply admit you’re fucked. Give up, let the global finance system fuck you over. Ive been balls deep in debt. I came up with a plan and’ paid it off. I’m one dude, the American government should have people that can figure out the same. I have no personal debt. Maybe that's why the topic grinds my gears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 29 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 29 6 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: in the big picture, that's unfortunately spit in a 55 gallon drum.. didn't learn anything from the short article eh? Gotta start somewhere why deny it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 2 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Gotta start somewhere why deny it let's just blank check everything... fuck it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Voodoo said: So you simply admit you’re fucked. Give up, let the global finance system fuck you over. Ive been balls deep in debt. I came up with a plan and’ paid it off. I’m one dude, the American government should have people that can figure out the same. That's what most cowards do, they Just except it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 7 hours ago, snoughnut said: That's where you're wrong, most people could give 2 shits about our debt because they know it's out of there hands. The people you hang out with that define "most people" to you are very different than the ones I hang out with. Sad. 7 hours ago, snoughnut said: In most elections Americans care mostly about 1 thing and that's how well their household is doing financially In that case, almost everyone I know and hang out with should vote for Biden. It's been a ridiculous year. That being said, the great majority aren't going to. 2 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I have no personal debt. Maybe that's why the topic grinds my gears? Same. Don't understand why people work so hard to pay interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 9 hours ago, Deephaven said: Don't understand why people work so hard to pay interest. imo, a lot of it is because people just 'want' shit and are willing to go into debt to get it. it's harder to spend money you have earned and saved, imo. spot on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 25 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: imo, a lot of it is because people just 'want' shit and are willing to go into debt to get it. it's harder to spend money you have earned and saved, imo. spot on... Yes, we wanted a house so we are in debt. That's our only debt though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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