Anler Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: You had me until 1.6 The 1.6 is an awesome track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, Anler said: 95 was a 670 with twin pipes. Not very regarded best twin of the 90’s maybe be the 99 mxz 670 HO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 15, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 15, 2022 17 hours ago, f7ben said: I mean think of the 4s engines the manus have had in the last 10 years. Yamaha 998 apex , 998 winder , 1049 nytro Polaris - Weber 750 Cat , Zuk 1100 Skidoo 1200 , 900 , 600 Of those motors there is no question which stand out as absolute tinker toy underperforming junk. Just pathetic. I mean that little Weber 750 could take damn near as much power as the 900ace and was probably a whole lot faster lb for lb 998 Apex/RX1 is still my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 17 hours ago, ACE said: Was reading they had to pay royalties on the 1200 too. But that doesn’t excuse them for making the 900 such junk 1200 was a joint venture with PETRONAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ACE said: 1.6 cobra is junk One of the worst tracks I’ve ever ridden. Just the worst qualities of a bunch of tracks put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ACE said: 1.6 cobra is junk One of the worst tracks I’ve ever ridden. Just the worst qualities of a bunch of tracks put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Anler said: The 1.6 is an awesome track Buds running them on their winder xtxs 141s at 280. Good track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 15, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ACE said: best twin of the 90’s maybe be the 99 mxz 670 HO Had a 96 670 Summit and a 97 MXZ 670. Shortened Y pipe, 501 rotary and UFO's in the carb and Ti arms really woke those up. Wish they would have tried flat slides in those for throttle pull alone. Never forget the first trips out west with that Summit. One of the biggest game changes in snowmobiling to that point. Other guys in our group had Cat 136's (580's and 700's) and it was laughable where I could go compared to them. First stock sled over the top in Jackson Hole. Edited September 15, 2022 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, awful knawful said: Buds running them on their winder xtxs 141s at 280. Good track I can see them being ok with a pile of hp dumped in them to overcome how poor they perform on top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: I can see them being ok with a pile of hp dumped in them to overcome how poor they perform on top end. They're running them over 200kmh. Tough as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: new springs was night and day. had i wanted to keep it another year would have gotten complete shock rebuild/revalve as well. Better trail sled than my current just not made for the mix of offtrail/trail riding we do which is why my first choice would be an SBA 146 with a 1.6 Just put the big boy springs on my vr1. It was waaay too soft stock. I was compensating by riding up on the tank in the bumps. I think this will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, ACE said: 1.6 cobra is junk 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: One of the worst tracks I’ve ever ridden. Just the worst qualities of a bunch of tracks put together. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: One of the worst tracks I’ve ever ridden. Just the worst qualities of a bunch of tracks put together. Lmao it really is storm 150 is way better or go right to the 1.75 sno X the cobra is probably the shittiest track next to the original ripsaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, awful knawful said: They're running them over 200kmh. Tough as fuck Is that fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Had a 96 670 Summit and a 97 MXZ 670. Shortened Y pipe, 501 rotary and UFO's in the carb and Ti arms really woke those up. Wish they would have tried flat slides in those for throttle pull alone. Never forget the first trips out west with that Summit. One of the biggest game changes in snowmobiling to that point. Other guys in our group had Cat 136's (580's and 700's) and it was laughable where I could go compared to them. First stock sled over the top in Jackson Hole. They were good. The HO was still a rotary but totally redesigned. Was nearly 130 hp stock. Total travesty they only used it for 2 years and in limited sleds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: Is that fast? x .621 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, awful knawful said: Buds running them on their winder xtxs 141s at 280. Good track Stock 800 assaults with the 1.6 have been whooping the shit out of other 800's and even 850's for a few years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ACE said: Lmao it really is storm 150 is way better or go right to the 1.75 sno X the cobra is probably the shittiest track next to the original ripsaw I love the 1.35 cobra , probably my favorite track. Rip2 is excellent or I’d take a predator any day if the week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 The cobra wears out extremely fast and it’s lugs are floppier than a 55 year old doo rider that thinks a 900 ace is fast it’s on trail holeshot performance is absolutely trash and in soft snow is the only place it resembles being a track at all. 1/10 rating at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: I love the 1.35 cobra , probably my favorite track. Rip2 is excellent or I’d take a predator any day if the week. Storm 150 is simply way better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Anler said: Stock 800 assaults with the 1.6 have been whooping the shit out of other 800's and even 850's for a few years now. They’re be much faster with a 1.35 cobra. Probably 5-6mph on top end from what I’ve seen. That track is like throwing out an anchor at 80mph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ACE said: The cobra wears out extremely fast and it’s lugs are floppier than a 55 year old doo rider that thinks a 900 ace is fast it’s on trail holeshot performance is absolutely trash and in soft snow is the only place it resembles being a track at all. 1/10 rating at best They need to be studded properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: They need to be studded properly. Nobody runs studs here so different world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 15, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, ACE said: They were good. The HO was still a rotary but totally redesigned. Was nearly 130 hp stock. Total travesty they only used it for 2 years and in limited sleds. The early Poo 700 twins made very good power.....then along came the F7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, ACE said: Nobody runs studs here so different world Running any type of sled with more hp than a 900ace without studs is insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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