Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: Meanwhile Ford is delivering their F150 Lightening. Tesla "missed the full size truck and SUV market" because Ford started delivering F150 Lightnings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 11, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, sleepybrew said: gm is building bigger ev and has nothing but shit up to this point. go ahead, buy that 116k , 9000lb hummer. let them do some more learning at your expense. and before long there will be no one to fix them anyway. gm said a few years ago "cars are dead". no, your cars are dead because they are garbage. that's what no one wants Not sure why they pushed the EV Hummer. They should've stuck to going EV with their 1500 trucks first and beat Ford to the market for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Whoever fixes the terrible battery tech will win if they can patent it Ford released the lightning but it’s a useless pile of trash so that doesn’t mean much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 hours ago, ACE said: Crazy how the radical left turned on musk just because he’s against fascism and pro free speech 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 hours ago, ACE said: Crazy how the radical left turned on musk just because he’s against fascism and pro free speech True story. Remember not long ago ActionfigureJoe could not go 6 hrs with out giving Musk a full service rim job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Musk was once seen as being motivated by altruistic principles. He’s been exposed as just another billionaire driven by the bottom line. Nothing special about him from that perspective. Brilliant man though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ACE said: Whoever fixes the terrible battery tech will win if they can patent it Ford released the lightning but it’s a useless pile of trash so that doesn’t mean much They should have named it the dumpster fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Ez ryder said: True story. Remember not long ago ActionfigureJoe could not go 6 hrs with out giving Musk a full service rim job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Ez ryder said: True story. Remember not long ago ActionfigureJoe could not go 6 hrs with out giving Musk a full service rim job Just another follower that does what he’s told Like a good boi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 12, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 hours ago, ACE said: Whoever fixes the terrible battery tech will win if they can patent it Ford released the lightning but it’s a useless pile of trash so that doesn’t mean much It has its place. Just like all the other EVs do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steve753 said: It has its place. Just like all the other EVs do. Yeah in some soibois yard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 12, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, ACE said: Yeah in some soibois yard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 hours ago, ACE said: Whoever fixes the terrible battery tech will win if they can patent it Ford released the lightning but it’s a useless pile of trash so that doesn’t mean much Solid state battery storage is where it’s at. Toyota is the leader right now with over 1700 patents and will have a car out in the next 5 years. Get rid of the weight issue with batteries and now we’re getting somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 12, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 12, 2022 16 hours ago, teamgreen02 said: You can't really use the market cap alone to compare the value of a company. Everyone makes that mistake. Either way, Tesla lost more in enterprise value from March to today than GM and Ford are worth total combined. I guess the market doesn't agree with Motortrend. Do you believe the millions of investors or Motortrend? Enterprise value: Tesla $769 billion, was $1.11 trillion in March. GM $131 billion Ford $142 billion No you can't but market cap often or "should" reflect many things including the financial health of the company. Offers often come in above. I believe Musk's offer for Tesla was around 10% above cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Edmo said: Solid state battery storage is where it’s at. Toyota is the leader right now with over 1700 patents and will have a car out in the next 5 years. Get rid of the weight issue with batteries and now we’re getting somewhere. Graphene aluminum ion might be where it’s at if someone can figure out how to affordably produce Graphene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 hours ago, ACE said: Yeah in some soibois yard Don't you mean assigned association parking spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: Don't you mean assigned association parking spot Sleep in the pod and eat the bugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 19 hours ago, Skidooski said: Not sure why they pushed the EV Hummer. They should've stuck to going EV with their 1500 trucks first and beat Ford to the market for once. we are dreading it. piece of shit is barely out and has recalls already. one dealer got one, blank screen, leaking t tops, and other issues. don't they remember why t tops went away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 hours ago, sleepybrew said: we are dreading it. piece of shit is barely out and has recalls already. one dealer got one, blank screen, leaking t tops, and other issues. don't they remember why t tops went away? All for 100k plus. Hard pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Edmo said: All for 100k plus. Hard pass. i think that will be the general sentiment. imagine what the tires cost , and how quick 1000 hp can burn them off. and the constant talk about crabwalk. who the hell needs that. just another message to repeat itself until you fix it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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